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We talk seldom about emotions. All our discussions, explanations advices, arguments are logical. Yes we think logically and don´t care about our emotions. Also our problems and their solutions we understand logically. Advices we tell logically. We don´t tell that we feel injustice, but we tell that somebody harmed us. We don´t tell that we feel degradation, but we tell that somebody critizised us. We don´t say that we are unhappy, but we say we lost. Advices are also logical. If we do something, we will have something. And there are so many advices, that we don´t know which one we should use. But our lifes we live trough emotions. And it doesn´t matter if happiness makes us nice car or nice natur. And doesn´t matter if our team lose in match, or our wife scream on us, anyhow we feel bad. If we are happy, we don´t care, that it is good. But if we are unhappy we don´t know how to change it to good mood. Even it is easy. It´s enough to ask God to help us remove bad emotion from our hearts and we will feel better. Therefore I suggest that we talk more about emotions, about our problems and life situation from emotion point of view and this way we can easy solve problems with removing bad emotions from our hearts. Than world will be better.

John 11:33-35 When Jesus saw her weeping, and the Jews who had come along with her also weeping, he was deeply moved in spirit and troubled. “Where have you laid him?” he asked. “Come and see, Lord,” they replied. Jesus wept. Sometimes in our society the world tells people to suck it up, not be emotional, and looks at crying as a weakness. Especially if someone is a male it’s not looked at as manly to cry, yet Jesus wept. It said he was “deeply moved…..troubled….wept.” Not just a little upset, but extremely. This passage is clear that Christ had emotions and was compassionate. I believe this is an example where we should not follow the ways of the world, but use Jesus’ as an example of how to live. Romans 12:15 Rejoice with those who rejoice, weep with those who weep, is another place we are told to do this. Then it goes on to say in John 11:36 Then the Jews said, “See how he loved him!” By weeping, Jesus showed love. John 11:43 When he had said this, Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!” Because what Jesus spoke comes to fruition, if he had not called Lazarus by name, it would appear that all the dead buried there would have been brought back to life. John 11:48 If we let him (Jesus) go on like this, everyone will believe in him, and then the Romans will come and take away both our temple and our nation.” Fear of losing their power and greed led to the chief priests and Pharisees plotting to kill Jesus. John 11:53-54 So from that day on they plotted to take his life. Therefore Jesus no longer moved about publicly among the people of Judea. Instead he withdrew to a region near the wilderness, to a village called Ephraim, where he stayed with his disciples. I’ve heard some Christians over the years say that we should just let evildoers overtake us and be martyrs for our faith. I think this is an example where Jesus was wise and didn’t help them to do evil to Him, until it was His appointed time to die/be our sacrifice.

IN 4 months i went from being a complete christian to a terrified man desperate for peace. My mind, my body, my well being and i'm even afraid to say soul and spirit because i'm afraid to even admit that has even been touched out of being ashamed that it has been put into jeopardy by my own sinful behavior that i need help. The devil has been trying to take credit for all of God's good work that he has ever done in me and repeat it so he can receive credit for it and i need help. I'm trying to God and be with Him and the more i struggle the more pain I feel. I know GOD, I know JESUS, I know the LORD, and We have had an amazing relationship not more or less than anyone else. But i need help. I've been convinced that i was going to be used by the devil or God and that at this moment no matter what i do the devil is using me. I confess in my ignorance and selfishness i have struggled with forgiveness and blaspheming to thee point where it has destroyed my life physically and mentally. Yet i try to be free of it and it get's worse and worse. So i ask is it too late for me. I just admitted to my sins last night and tried to beg for forgiveness but all i saw was a black figure over me blocking my prayer. I even tried to reach past it but feeling like it wouldn't work. I feel everything I've been doing from church service to prayer has been rerouted to the devil in my mind and i want it to stop. I need Jesus and i want release from this but i don't even know how to start. I have therapy and a loving family and supportive church but i feel like I've been corrupting or bringing down those people because every time i feel a breakthrough i get skeptical and doubtful all the way to the point where i even make a big deal out of emotions. I feel like i'm being convinced to be satanic. I try to turn away from it but i seem to get the most resistance there. I want to turn to God but i feel like His Word is saying it's too late. I don't want it to be true. Is it too late for me to turn back. So far only fear anger and stress and anxiety have been what get's me to move. And my delay seems to be my down fall even trying to post this i had like 5 interruptions and my thoughts fear 6's and upside down crosses and every time i release my pain i have doubts about where my pain is going and who is using me. Something good will happen, i'll feel relief and then i'll get bombarded all over again. PRAYER ADVICE FREEDOM PUT YOUR ARMOR ON PLEASE. HELP ME.

I feel led by the Lord to start a new thread on this topic for the benefit of others despite my really not wanting to do so. You see when I touch on things that might step on religious toes I usually end up getting flak coming my way and I don't like that. But in line with wanting to do what the Lord might want me to do I must speak out that which He lays on my heart to speak about no matter what baloney might come my way. So...I would like to open a discussion on emotionally experiencing God. There is a difference between knowing about God and emotionally experiencing Him. That difference is akin (or like) some things in the natural world that show the difference between knowing something and experiencing it. The Lord Himself laid on my heart how these things mirror what I am trying to say about the difference between knowing about God and experiencing Him. For example this morning as I was walking to where I am now...something worked it's way into my shoe and toward the front where my toes were. A tiny piece of branch or something similar. I knew it was there in my shoe. But I also could feel it. Against my skin. The feeling of it against my skin is what motivated me to stop, untie my shoe, shake it out, and get rid of it. And let me tell you. It's was HOT, HOT, HOT. I would not have stopped had I not felt the foreign object against my skin. I also experienced an itch on my arm from who knows what. But it was itchy in a spot for an instance. I knew the itch was there but I was motivated to scratch that itch because I felt it. Both these examples highlight for me how we can know various things about God, like His love, but not be moved by it to do much of anything until and if we experience it emotionally. Head knowledge by itself is fine. As a starting point. But we are to apply faith to our head knowledge and move from mental assent to experience of God through and by that faith. I remember when I first took the step of dancing before the Lord quite a number of years ago. That was very intimidating for me to do. There was a need to break through emotional inhibition in the presence of God. Perhaps men reading this can relate to that more than women since men seem to be more emotionally inhibited than women are. Emotional inhibition is a factor of our fallen nature I think. For in truth, if we are confident in the love and acceptance of God no such thing should even exist. We should as freely dance before the Lord as King David did. In private or public. As an expression of joy and worship of God. But to break through such emotional inhibition requires a step of faith. An act of the will. To do what we would be able to do just fine...without emotional inhibition. To act in line with what we would do without emotional inhibition. And so...wanting to grow closer to the Lord...I took the brand new step, at least for me, to start dancing before Him in the privacy of my apartment. It was rather intimidating. It's hard to describe how I felt. It was like a mixture between embarrassment (me, a grown man, dancing before a God I can't even see and looking silly doing it...I mean no one taught me in some sermon how to dance before God LOL) and also anticipation as to what it would be to act in an emotionally uninhibited manner before God. That was just one instance of when I stepped out in faith, faith in His love and acceptance of me, to act as a child before Him and express myself emotionally to Him without letting the usual inhibitions keep me from experiencing God. That overall time in my life was a time of great release. Of great emotional release. To experiencing far more of God than I had ever experienced of Him before. The first time I lifted my hands in worship to God publicly was also such a time. That was not just emotional inhibition but the fear of man too in that I did not want to look silly to others by such an outward and visible expression of worship (i.e. feelings of gratitude and reverence) to God. It just wasn't very manly I suppose LOL. But when I took the step to lift my hands and express worship to God that way it was a most wonderfully liberating thing. An awesome thing. For God rewarded my step of faith and lavished His presence on me in such a way both then and later in private that made me fall all the more in love with Him. One person called such moments thresholds of fear. I found that going through such thresholds, both of fear and emotional inhibition, by faith...caused my relationship with God to blossom. I was putting faith into practice by doing things in line, not with who I thought myself to be or thought "proper" or anything like that, but rather with who I was before God. Accepted and loved all the way. Such that I did not need to concern myself with looking silly to the Lord and could respond and be with Him in a completely uninhibited way. If there is interest in this topic as a matter of discussion I will share more and go over some verses that might relate to this. I'll leave it at that for now. Carlos