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  1. Shalom brothers & sisters, I hope you are all well and blessed! There has always been a debate amongst believers about what salvation is. However, it seems that recently this debate has erupted more and more throughout WCF. This is not another post to add to that debate. Even though I have a view on this matter, I’m not here to share it. If I did, we would probably see 14 pages worth of replies, with the majority of them filled with words of bitterness, accusations and throwing Scriptures like bombs! Oye. Instead, this post is talk about the conduct of some people in these debates. I include myself as well as I'm sure I have been unreasonable in my conduct in here at times, to my shame. -------- Some say “Once Saved, Always Saved” whilst others say “We’re saved to serve God and obey Him”. It’s clear that these apparent opposing views cannot be discussed reasonably in this forum. It's understandably a sore topic for those who are unstable in their faith or easily offended. But let’s zoom out to assess this problem: If one person is so utterly convinced that salvation is THIS way and another one that it’s THAT way, what are we to say? Well, if each person on each side of the argument has a relationship with Yahweh, and are blessed with His Spirit AND produce fruit of the Spirit, then let each one be as they are! The Lord has accepted them. What, is it not possible for Yahweh to reveal His Gift of Salvation in different ways to different people, with a different emphasis as appropriate? Or are we, humans, to box in Yahweh’s methods? Consider this writing from the Apostle Paul: “In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:20-21 I’m not saying which side of this salvation argument the “special purposes” applies to. Rather, it’s to highlight that there WILL be differences within the Lord’s House. Some will be separated for special purposes and some for common use. But all have a need and a purpose. Paul continues and writes: “And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:24-26 So, if we feel we should correct others, we should do so with peace, gentleness and in hope. Many in the forum struggle to do this or even engage in conversation with an open mind. They seem to prefer a position of power, assuming they are 100% right, with no need of correction, but are fully informed of the Way of the Lord Jesus. So, what can we do when both sides are so fully convinced and unable to reason with each other? Paul in Romans writes: “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.” ~ Romans 14:4-10 Therefore, should we not accept each other and our differences, even as the Lord accepted us all? Are we wiser than God in sifting through His servants to decide who truly understands Him and His ways? Aren’t you ultimately limited in your thinking, love and experience compared to our God? If a person wants to share their understanding of salvation, fine, welcome them lovingly! Consider their words carefully and thoughtfully and respond with love and peace. BUT, if they share with aggressiveness, closed-mindedness, or with a finality (as if they were a prophet) - then let them be, don’t encourage them with a response. Their foolishness will be revealed for all to see, along with their lack of fruit of the Spirit. Don’t entertain their folly or let their quarrelsome path draw you into their error. Remember, in all things to be conscious of your words, lest they only serve as sentiments you need to repent of one day. To those who feel lead to share such things, even if your intention is honourable, caring and loving but your execution is contrary to those values - It’s all been for nothing! You have lost the argument in ways you didn't imagine - even if you are, factually, correct. Forget “winning” a debate, and instead pursue love and peace within our family. Conclusion: If you can't drop your attitude, then drop the debate. You're anonymity on here is no cover to be disrespectful or rude. You're “wealth of knowledge” or “years of studying” is no license to judge a servant the Master has accepted. Love & Shalom
  2. Behold

    Focus help

    I wanted to talk to you about the Devil. Don't hear a lot about Him....... not in church, not on forums. Notice this? You'd almost get the idea from the lack of real discussion about this "angel of light", that he's basically a myth. But i assure you he's not. He's working behind the scenes and often from the pulpit, in the form of bad theology, 300 doctrinally watered down "new bibles", and of course, 5000 denominations that are all in perpetual disagreement, are certainly not God's design. See, when the Devil is working, there is always one sure situation, in play. "Confusion". So, let me show you how He tries to work in your life, and does. I'll show you his #1 operation, in effect, against you, always. Always. Its very simple. He is always trying to get your Focus off of The Lord, and serving HIM< and unto anything else. That's Job #1 for the Devil. Focus control. And why? Because what you focus on, is what you spend your time DOING....and your TIME is your LIFE. TIME is LIFE. So, if the Devil can steal or redirect your focus, He is now controlling your time, and once He has your TIME, he runs your LIFE........ Saint. So, Let me give you an idea. AS Compared to the time you spend on this forum, or that you spend Texting.... How much TIME do you spend doing this, vs, studying the word, praying, praising God, witnessing, helping others, or teaching a new believer about GRACE... Hebrews 13:9 ??? TIme is LIFE, Saint, and you have to guard it, so that you can use it wisely, for God. Guarding your heart, is guarding your Time. And how should you use your Time wisely for God? You answer this question(s)..... is how to find out. Does God have all of you? Does God have everything you have? Are you giving Him your VERY BEST? And you say......."well, im not a preacher, or a teacher, etc, etc, etc. Ok......but what you can do.....is more then you believe, so, does God have all that? Does He have all of you? That's the question. Does God have......ALL.......OF........YOU ???????????? Ask it inside your own heart, as you dont need to post it here, as that is not the point....is it? This is between you and God., as this is what matters. Just YOU and HIM. Ok, now, i will give you something to think about, that if you will discipline yourself to consider every day, it will have the effect of helping you focus your LIFE....towards God. Ok? So, here is the thought. You are going to die., and then this happens.. >"absent from the Body and Present with the Lord". That is going to happen to you, if you are born again. Count on it....Believe it, as you are headed there, and it could be anytime, as all of us are exactly one heartbeat removed from that Meeting. Listen......in your local Newspaper, you have an Obituary Page. And on it today, are the names of people, who, i promise you.... 1 day ago, never thought they would be found dead in it today. Saint, Hebrews 9:27 is not just a possibility. Its a FACT. Now, if you will , everyday of your life, just for a moment, consider that you are going to meet Jesus, and He is going to speak with you about something. Its this...."What have you done in MY BODY.. .with the TRUTH YOU WERE GIVEN, and that Truth is ME"........John 14:6....."I am THE TRUTH". Saint, .... Jesus is going to gently and lovingly ask every Believer, when we meet Him... what we did with our lives, <>for Him<>, (everyday) after we became Born Again. This is going to happen to each of us. And so.... if you will spend a few moments at the beginning of every day you live, from now on, till you are also found in that OBIT Page... you will begin to realize areas in your life where the Devil is robbing you of your TIME focus , that is actually constantly stealing your life AWAY FROM your Lord and your God.
  3. Matthew 6:10 - "Your Kingdom come. Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven." This is the primary focus for all prayer -- if it exists in heaven, it is to be "loosed" on earth. It's the praying Christian who "looses" heaven's expression here. When the believer prays according the revealed will of God, faith is specific and focused. Faith grabs hold of that reality. Enduring faith doesn't let go. Such an invasion causes the circumstances here to line up with heaven. Matthew 16:19 - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; and whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven. (NAS)" Romans 1:24,25 - "Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator - who is forever praised." EVERY SIN IS THE EXCHANGE OF THE TRUTH OF GOD FOR A LIE. CHRISTIANS, WHO TEND TO AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME THEY ARE THE "CHOSEN OF GOD," HAVE REASSURED THEMSELVES THAT THEY COULD NOT POSSIBLY BE DECEIVED. THE VERY THOUGHT, "I CANNOT BE DECEIVED" IS ITSELF A DECEPTION. MANY TESTS AWAIT THE "CALLED" BEFORE THEY ARE EQUIPPED BY GOD AND BECOME HIS CHOSEN; NOT THE LEAST OF THESE TESTS IS BECOMING FREE FROM DECEPTION. Matthew 22:14 - "Many are called but few are chosen." John 14:30 - ".......for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." Pauperhood is relegated to the children of a lesser god. He is the one who assigns them to a life of poverty, pain, and depression through a diabolical play of illusion. He hopes to conceal their true identity forever. This evil prince feeds his captives the poisonous rations of religion, convincing them they will fill their soul's hunger for righteousness. These slaves, blindfolded by their sin, think that they are laboring for their own freedom and work to pave their way out of prison with bricks built from the miry clay of self-righteousness. Yet, unknowingly, brick by brick, they are erecting their own chambers of death. Worse yet, they birth children into the same darkness, ultimately creating legacies of bondage with mind-sets of hopelessness. Affirmations: I AM NOT JUST A SOLDIER OF THE CROSS; I AM AN HEIR TO THE THRONE. THE DIVINE NATURE PERMEATES MY SOUL, TRANSFORMS MY MIND, TRANSPLANTS MY HEART, AND TRANSFIGURES MY SPIRIT. I WAS MADE TO BE A VESSEL OF HIS GLORY AND VEHICLE OF HIS LIGHT. ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
  4. Restoration (Read Isaiah 58 & John 16) Matthew 9:17 - “Nor do people put new wine into old wineskins; otherwise the wineskins burst, and the wine pours out and the wineskins are ruined; but they put new wine into fresh wineskins, and both are preserved.” (Only when we allow the Holy Spirit to work within us do we have the power to live a victorious Christian life. And it is He, the Holy Spirit, who does the work of restoring, the fragmented shattered pieces of our lives to something that is far greater than the former state. When the Holy Spirit begins the process, a process of restoration, He has placed us in a: 1. new season; 2. new revelation; 3. new life; 4. new wine. In order to contain the new wine of restoration we need a new wine skin. The Greek word for “new” in this passage “KAINOS” meaning something that has been renewed or made over or something restored. In the restorative process, God take what was there and bring it to a new place so He can pour within it that which He longs to release to us – a new wine. To make a wine skin new, He soaks the old wine skin in water and rubs it with oil. Rubbing with oil is the part of the process that makes us flexible. The oil contains a new anointing. As we alow the Holy Spirit to take us through the process of rubbing, we not only become more flexible to handle all God’s desires to pour into us, but we become able to pour out in a greater measure.) Galatians 1:6-7 6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. Galatians 3:1 1You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified? (Specifically, there are three things God must remove from our lives in order to renew our wineskins: 1. He removes legalism. In Galatians legalism is equated with witchcraft. Paul reminds the Galatians that they were doing great. They were having a good time, growing in the Lord and walking in faith. Then he asks who bewitched them? In other words, who narrowed their minds down to such a degree that they were no longer able to receive the grace of God? Who brought legalism into their midst? Eg.: Is there a situation in your life, family or church that seems completely unchangeable? Are behavioral patterns so entrenched that nothing can shake them loose? If the answer is yes then you are dealing with a legalistic mind-set. We say that nothing is impossible with God but do we believe that nothing is impossible with God? In every area where we do not have this heartfelt assurance, we have a legalistic bewitching structure that narrows God.) John 8:43-44 43“Why do you not understand what I am saying? It is because you cannot hear My word. 44“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. (2. He removes condemnation. Satan is a liar and a thief. He lies to us about our postion with God in order to steal the restoration God has for us. We say things such as, “God can’t restore me because I….am divorced, had an abortion, lied about a friend, had a messed up childhood, took what was not mine, etc.. Getting right with God and forgiving ourselves will break the schemes the devil intended to use to keep us draped in a shroud of guilt, no matter what we have done.) Isaiah 58:6,8-12 6 “Is this not the fast which I choose, To loosen the bonds of wickedness, To undo the bands of the yoke, And to let the oppressed go free And break every yoke?8“Then your light will break out like the dawn, And your recovery will speedily spring forth; And your righteousness will go before you; The glory of the LORD will be your rear guard. 9 “Then you will call, and the LORD will answer; You will cry, and He will say, ‘Here I am.’ If you remove the yoke from your midst, The pointing of the finger and speaking wickedness,10And if you give yourself to the hungry And satisfy the desire of the afflicted, Then your light will rise in darkness And your gloom will become like midday. 11“And the LORD will continually guide you, And satisfy your desire in scorched places, And give strength to your bones; And you will be like a watered garden, And like a spring of water whose waters do not fail.12 “Those from among you will rebuild the ancient ruins; You will raise up the age-old foundations; And you will be called the repairer of the breach, The restorer of the streets in which to dwell. (3. He removes judgementalism. The law of sowing and reaping applies to condemning other through judgements i.e. if we sow condemnation to others we will be condemned – we too become suseptable to falling into the same sin we accuse others of. Isaiah 58 says that if you will pray and fast and let God determine the fast for you, you will, “put away the pointing of that finger and speaking wickedly”, He will begin to breakforth your light and healing will spring up.” .) ALBERT FINCH MINISTRY
  5. Hey Brethren, I have a question. I have never this question asked before, I have seen the questions like 'is everything a sin', 'is entertainment a sin' and 'is having fun a sin' but never have I seen the question asked in the context of 1 John 2:15-17. Does 1 John 2:15-17 (the verses about not loving the world and the things of the world) teach that everything that involves fun, pleasure and entertainment is sinful? Obviously there is bad and immoral entertainment out there and the Bible does talk about the pleasures of sin for a season (Hebrews 11:25), but is EVERYTHING that involves fun, pleasure and entertainment is sinful? things like non-hymnal music, hobbies, sports (I'm not a fan there but I know others are), video games, etc. I saw one YouTube video where a Christian named Jefferson Bethke said that God made pleasurable things and they should produce thankfulness and a comment involved quotation of 1 John 2:15 as a rebuttal. Another example from the otherside is from Steven Anderson, the YouTube description (The description was written by a Christian named Matthew Stucky but it was for Steven Anderson's video) of one of his videos against television reads the following: "They will preach against some television shows but shows like the Andy Griffith Show will be praised behind the pulpit. LINE BREAK. 1 John 2:15-16 "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. LINE BREAK. The Bible tells us not to love the world. The television and movies are of the world. " To be fair, he went into more detail about why he didn't approve of the show further in the description talking about how the show made a mockery of being a drunk and other things, but I just wanted to give you an idea of how the verses are used. 1 John 2:15-17 is part of the Bible and I'm not going to ignore it, Revelation 22:19 sends a severe warning against adding or taking away from the Bible, but I will be honest, I get nervous when hear the verses quoted because almost everytime I hear them quoted, the person quoting them is saying that EVERYTHING that involves fun, pleasure and entertainment is sinful. I find it interesting that the Love of God is to keep his commandments and his commandments are not burdensome (1 John 5:3), and the commandments to love God with all my heart, soul and mind and to love my neighbor as myself are anything but burdensome, but the commandment to 'thou shalt not have fun' certainly is burdensome, and it's not that I am not willing to sacrifice pleasurable things for the cause of Christ, I certainly am, but I am burdened by the idea that pleasure on earth is evil within itself. I also keep what I hope is the correct interpretation of 1 John 2:15-17, which is to know that this earth is not our home and to have an focus on the everlasting life to come, to not follow ungodly desires (lusts of the flesh and lusts of the eyes) and not be prideful (ths pride of life). What are your thoughts? God Bless you all.
  6. I have modified the title of this article slightly as I think it is a great review on Tullian Tchividjian’s One Way Love: Inexhaustible Grace for an Exhausted World. What are your thoughts?
  7. I'm going to consider your words Gary. I'll pray about it and get back to you.
  8. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is not the OP. Here’s all 7 threads relating to Legalism I’ve started… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the OP and subject/topic of this thread. This is a spinoff from the thread in Inner Court - General Discussion "Spiritual Abuse - Defined and Dicussed." See: http://www.worthychr...d/page__st__160 1. What is legalism? 2. How does one view it according to the Bible? 3. Have you experienced legalism from others in your life? If so how or from who in general? 4. How does one address in a Christ-like manner people who are wanting to impose their legalistic values on others? Ground rules: Let us remember humility, as Believers we are heirs of God with Christ. (Philippians 2:3; 1 Peter 5:5, Romans 8:17) Remember we are to seek restoration with a spirit of gentleness. (Galatians 6:1) We are to be kind and tenderhearted to one another. (Ephesians 5:32)
  9. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is not the OP. Here’s all 7 threads relating to Legalism I’ve started… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the OP and subject/topic of this thread. I was brainstorming with my wife last night about legalistic views/ideas and legalism. This was after someone I know pointed out that one might be legalistic and not even know it. Here's what we came up with. Which of these hit home the most? Your thoughts? Anything to add to the list? God bless, GE You May Have Legalism (And Not Even Know It) In Your Life… 1. If you believe God’s love for you depends on your efforts or what you do. 2. If you believe God’s love for you depends on how much you have done for Him lately and the love you have shown him recently. 3. If you fall short because in your mind you need to be a better person, you haven’t prayed enough, or you don’t have enough faith. 4. If you believe God is predisposed to be angry with you because you are a sinner and let’s face it He knows you can do better. 5. If you know God’s law but don’t have a personal relationship with Him. 6. If you focus more on your fellow Christians church attendance, tithing, version of the Bible, outward appearance rather than getting to know others and accepting them where they’re at in their walk with the Lord. 7. If you have grown accustomed to living by the expectations of others, especially those in positions of authority or those in your local church, as this is essential to your life. 8. If your sense of worth is based on the opinions of a Christian leader, your reputation, your church membership, or a group’s opinion of you rather than a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. 9. If you are more concerned with your reputation than with heart change in your life conforming to Christ. 10. If you tell your children not to do something at church or around other Christian families that you allow in your home or elsewhere. 11. If you believe that what people wear, skirt length, swimsuit type, tattoos, piercings, hairstyle, length of hair, etc. is a clear indication of a person’s spiritual maturity and character. 12. You look at people’s lives and instinctively judge them rather than see them through God’s eyes – a work in progress for those who Believe and potential children of God for those who do not. 13. You believe you’re standards somehow make you superior to others. 14. When you miss a service or program at your church, even with a legitimate reason, you feel guilty. 15. You’re so loyal to man-made tradition you don’t think any significant change could possibly be from God. 16. You believe you’re church/denomination is the only group really focused on teaching God’s Word. 17. You believe that those who have been divorced are less valuable in the eyes of God and you feel superior to them. 18. You believe that how your kids turn out is solely your responsibility and the measurement of your success or lack there-of as a Christian parent. 19. You believe that even associating much less discussing ideas with those different than you is sinful compromise. 20. If you believe that the expression of spiritual gifts (provided by the Holy Spirit) is evidence of one’s personal walk with God. Edit: For clarification the working definition for legalism on this thread is taken from here:
  10. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is not the OP. Here’s all 7 threads relating to Legalism I’ve started… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the OP and subject/topic of this thread. Found this today. Wow. What do you think? God bless, GE
  11. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is not the OP. Here’s all 7 threads relating to Legalism I’ve started… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the OP and subject/topic of this thread. Has anyone seen the new Les Miserables? With Anne Hathaway winning an Oscar I was reminded of this story. So what do you think? Did you watch it? God bless, GE Edit: For clarification the working definition for legalism on this thread is taken from page__st__20#entry1877865. This is not a discussion on the definition of legalism.
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