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  1. The bible says that Jesus bore our sin on the Cross, so then, who are we to not believe it. ? After all, if we are born again, then we have now become "the righteousness of Christ", and Jesus "became (our) sin". 2nd Corinthians 5:21, and what is also amazing, is that its God His Father that "made" this all happen. Here is a pretzel.....God is Jesus on the Cross, sending Himself down from Heaven, to Die as a Man. In John 1:10, Jesus was "standing on the earth HE CREATED", = "God said, LET THERE BE", in Genesis....... and this is JESUS now standing on it, and soon He was going to be hanging between the earth and sky that HE Created with.... words....and Jesus is the WORD ..... made flesh. On the Cross, Jesus is not just dying for sin, He literally became sin. I'll show you somehting else that is pretty interesting, as maybe you've not thought this or been shown it before... You all know this verse...... "we are not UNDER the Law but we are UNDER Grace". In other words, the reason for the Law....is that the law shows us our sinfulness, as this is the purpose of it, which then leads us to the One who dies for them on the Cross, gives us His Righteousness......you know, (Salvation). But notice this.... our NT says that the LAW was abolished, being NAILED to the Cross. Colossians 2:14 Now this does not mean the law and the 10 C's are no longer behavioral lifestyle guides regarding our Christian Discipleship, sure...but what it means is that because Jesus fulfilled the law in our place, the law now has no authority to judge us as sinners. Remember, God's law does this, not Jesus, not God. This is why Jesus never JUDGED any one, He always said. "sins are forgiven", "go thy way"...etc..... as that is why HE CAME, whereas the Law can not do this, it can only judge you to be a sinner, based on ITSELF as it reveals God's morally righteous moral code. So, Jesus abolished the law (took away its power to judge us as sinners), which is why Romans 4:8 has to be understood fully or Salvation can't be completely accepted or understood as it is meant to be, in both cases. So, there is Jesus, dying on the cross, and where is the Law that is abolished and NAILED to the Cross with him?? Its nailed. Where? Its above his HEAD. He is UNDER THE LAW, on the Cross, DYING. And we are NOT UNDER IT< because He died under it for us. "You are not UNDER the Law but under GRACE , <. see that? = Because Jesus is UNDER IT, on the Cross. He took away its power to JUDGE a born again believer. His death FINISHED not only our Eternal Redemption, but it also forever eliminated the Law's Legal right to judge us as SINNERS. <B><
  2. When we think of the phrase "using someone", then most of us immediately have the idea of a person who is carnally manipulating someone else. Another way to think of it is "taking advantage" of someone. In Both cases, its wrong. But with God, using Him, is Faith. Let me explain.... Let say you paid $100,000 for your kid to have the opportunity to take up space in a 4 yr Ivy League College, where they'll turn them into a politically corrected Christ Rejecting Socialist the first 2 yrs, then bake them until well done, the final 2 yrs. Now, any College will do this to your child for your money, but those will, most especially. Yet, you paid to USE what they OFFER. So, in this case your using their educational system, is your right, it is what you have paid for, its what you are supposed to do. Sure. Now with God, ... He has paid with the Blood of Jesus, for you to come and use Him. If you are born again, then you have an open door of continual access to God, BECAUSE of what Christ has done for you. God actually sent the Bread Of Heaven down here to Die, so that by purchasing you back to Him with Christ's Blood, <>redeeming you for all eternity<>, you are given full access to God. 24/7, for as long as God lives. Listen, 100 yrs after you are passed from this earth an into God's glorious eternity, you wont even remember that you were here. So, what does it mean to be "Blood bought", and have full access to God? Its means you ALWAYS have full access to God. That's literally what it means to be redeemed. You are redeemed from judgement for your sin, (Hell).... & you are redeemed from the curse of the law, so that the Law is no longer your JUDGE. The Law can't judge the born again, and God won't judge the born again, because JESUS has already been judged and SLAIN....>HE DIED. = THERE IS YOUR JUDGEMENT DO YOU in ETERNITY......It fell on Jesus, on Earth. = The Cross. ITS GONE. !! When the new Testament tells you that Jesus is the Light of the world, and that you have been translated from darkness TO LIGHT, this means you have entered into a brand new eternal identity ("in Christ") and new situation. (New Creation IN Christ). You are now God's. Literally. Bought with a price. And that price is the Blood of Jesus. You are NOT your own. You are under NEW OWNERSHIP.... Jesus's BLOOD paid for you to belong to God, and not just until you mess up again... The Blood of Jesus, is the Grace of God, and where your sin is found, God's Grace is greater then your sin. IT not only covers it, but God does not even remember it. Romans 4:8 goes even deeper into the Revealed Light of Redemption. The Payment for all your sin Who Himself bled on the Cross...... is eternal, because the Blood that paid for your forgiveness is not ordinary Blood. No, its GOD's Blood. Jesus is God... And Jesus shed God's Blood for YOU, which is WHY its an eternal sacrifice... Once and for ALL. Tho, this Holy Redeeming Blood is only APPLIED by God to those who BELIEVE and are Born Again. Jesus said... "YOU MUST be Born again", and His Holy Blood poured out provides the only means that God accepts to accept you, or anyone. Its available to everyone. This SALVATION. This Free Gift of Righteousness. This justification before God, BY Faith...... But, not everyone will BELIEVE. Satan rejected God, because he wanted to be God. The angels that followed Satan, rejected God. Jesus the Christ, IS God. So, Unbelievers down here, CHRIST REJECTORS..... are doing what Satan and his followers did, up there, and the end result is the same for them all. Jesus said that if you do not believe in Him, believe that He alone is the Savior-Messiah, then you will die in your sin. And you'll do more then that. You'll meet God as eternal Judge upon your death, and you'll pay for your Christ Rejection, forever. So, reader, if you have not trusted in Christ, then do it now...... Now. If You will take Christ into you heart right now, then God will take you into His heart, forever...... That God's Promise. God is waiting for you, all your life. He is not Lost, YOU ARE....... So, once God's Redeeming Blood has made you GOD'S Child, His property, His BODY of CHRIST, BORN AGAIN....then as God's Body of Christ, God actually wants you to USE HIM constantly, by Faith. Now lets talk about that... God is Love, and God has a work. His work is to SAVE, HELP, to RESTORE, to BLESS, TO HEAL, and to ENLIGHTEN, all of His Children, and to finally transform them into the very likeness of Jesus The Christ when you meet Him. And allowing God by your Faith to help you, with EVERYTHING, is how you use God. Using God, is to allow Him by you Faith, to do for you what HE LOVES TO DO. As all this is just God manifesting His Love, as all these imputations. as all this HELP. Love, God's love, is God doing for you because He Loves you....... exactly Like He Gave Christ to you as a GIFT. If you are born again, then You already USED His offer, you accessed It, you took advantage of God's Goodness, when you trusted in and believed on Christ, and God Saved you. Using God, is to seek God by faith to do what His Love wants to do for you all the time. When you use Him, you are giving Him the FAITH that He says, pleases Him, and if you don't, you are not pleasing Him as He would want you to do it, constantly. Faith, is using God to give His supply into all your needs and create inside you the God type happiness that He wants you to have, "the Joy of the Lord". All this "riches in Glory" is gained when you by faith, use Him, and He thereby does His heavenly work for you as He WANTS TO DO. God loves to be used for your benefit. He wants to be used by your Faith, as this pleases Him. Be sure you do it.
  3. Behold

    LOVE VS LAW

    How did Jesus become our Savior. ???? Well obviously He is the reason you go to heaven. (Savior),= because you are born again, because you BELIEVED, and God ACCEPTED your Faith, and gave you (made you) His Righteousness. ("New Creation IN Christ") Now its true that He was the Savior, always, even as a baby.....or as Simeon in Luke Ch 2, said.. "My Eyes have seen God's SALVATION", as he beheld baby Jesus. And in John 1:10, when Jesus "stood on the world HE CREATED", He was standing there as Savior of the World, He Created, Colossians 1:16.... tho He had not saved it yet. So, what 2 things did Jesus have to do, to BECOME our savior? 1.) He had to meet ALL the requirements of the LAW, and not fail. 2.) He had to die on the Cross, which means He became our sin bearer, our redeemer, our Justification, and our Blood Atonement. In doing these 2 things, He became, our Savior....Literally, even if you are not yet saved. See, here is the thing.... Jesus is LORD, no matter if you believe it or want Him to be. And He is THE Savior, no matter if you are saved. Jesus does not become these things, once we believe them, but rather He is already, both. One of the light-bulb moments a serious student of the New Testament will have, is when they realize that Salvation does not start when you believe....it is in fact finished 2000 yrs ago when Jesus walked out of that Tomb. It only becomes yours, when you believed. Its APPLIED TO YOU< because you believed... It was already there fo the lastr 2000 yrs. Salvation was in the foreknowledge of God, before He even created Lucifer or the World or the Sun. Its been around for a while. Salvation is something that Jesus finished 2000 yrs ago. You get to have it, if you will believe. If you do, then God, Christ, and the Holy Spirit, take up residence inside you, and because Jesus has obtained eternal redemption for you, and because He Himself IS Eternal life, that He Gives to you, then you are sealed into the Eternity of God Himself, and never let anyone try to convince you otherwise., as they are lying to you, Saint. We can see that dying for sin is obvious as this explains the Cross. God is judging Christ in our place, with those spikes, and that Crown, and that scourging that came before Jesus was lifted up by those Spikes, between heaven and earth. Yet, before He could satisfy God's righteous judgment against our sin, by dying for our sin, by becoming our sin.... Jesus first had to meet the requirements of the Law, so that this "curse of the law", could be taken off of us. And Saint, never let a heretic try to put that Law back on you that Jesus shed His Blood for= to deliver you from. So, how did Jesus himself fully meet all the requirements of the Law? He met them all, by being....... "God is Love". Jesus is God, and God is Love. See,... "love fulfills the Law". So you have this verse... : Romans 13:10. "Love does no harm to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the LAW." We as the born again, understand that all the law and commandments found in the (Torah - Old Testament) are fulfilled when we keep the NEW Commandments, that Jesus gave us. And when we fail, this is a time to begin again and be thankful that JESUS DIDN'T FAIL. Jesus said, """Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. """ So, the way Jesus fulfilled the law, so that the curse of the law was taken off the Redeemed, was to LOVE. Thats how He did it. GOD IS LOVE, AND JESUS IS LOVE. Remember this verse ??? John 15:13. "There is no greater love than this—that a man should lay down his life for his friends""" And there is Jesus laying His life Down, on the Cross, and not just for His friends, but for His ENEMIES. That is LOVE.......That is how GOD LOVES.. And the way we stop sinning, is not by straining to try to stop. Its not by fasting ourselves from the world. As in both cases, this will actually cause you to be more drawn to the very sin you are trying to force yourself to stop doing. Remember that Christ said......."apart from me, you can do nothing" .. You can't bear Christian Fruit, .. You can't stop sinning.... and you can't LOVE Like GOD.......APART from Jesus. So, the way you do all this, is to be filled with God. Paul describes this as.. "it is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me".. Here is the math... God is Love. If you are filled with God, then you are filled with LOVE. And this love, is the Power of Christ to keep those 2 commandments. The lifelong process of being "conformed into the image of Christ" that is fulfilled entirely when we meet Jesus....(Our Eternal Inheritance)..... This process of conforming is literally the process of being conformed into the Love Of God. The more like Christ we are, the more OF God's Love we have become. blessings, B
  4. Behold

    Adore Jesus

    Do you ever just adore Jesus? Do you have a quiet and hidden place where you can just adore the Lord of Glory? IN your bed, in your closet, in your car ?????? Do you ever just say......."oh Jesus, you are so beautiful. You are so beautiful...... you are the King of Heaven, the Prince of Glory, the Prince of peace. Oh Lovely Jesus, you are the Lord, you are the Glory of God, you are the King of Kings, you are perfection, you are AMAZING GRACE. YOU ARE LIFE. Who is like you Lord of Glory, who is your equal, who is like you......there is none Lord, You are the beautiful one, the perfect one, the Holy one. You alone are savior, peace, hope... You are the heart of God, and the Love of God.. You are the mighty one, the tender one, the rose of Sharon, the pearl of great price, the LIVING TRUTH. You are the very Blood of God, shed as the eternal love of God freely given. There is none like you beautiful one, there is only you, the hope of God, the light of Heaven, the lovely lovely lovely lovely lovely, JESUS . Thank you for your cross, thank you for your blood, thank you for your name that is above every name. You name is the sweetest that ever was, or that ever will be... Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus Jesus, thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you THANK YOU... !!! Jesus is SO worthy to be praised.
  5. I thought i would finish the short teaching-message series for you i began 2 Thread's ago, and thank you for reading. This will be the 3rd part, regarding the same Topic, which generally speaking is regarding Eternal Security. To finish this 3 part, lets look at FAITH. First, there is a general misconception many Believers have about Faith, as THE savior. Which of course is not the case. Many who are not really time invested in rightly dividing the word will never be deeply connected to an understanding of God's Amazing Grace, So,.. this type will usually have a theologically misguided idea about "faith" being their savior. And because of this, which is probably caused by them believing misleading teaching that came ither from the pulpit or worse, too much time spent over years studying theologically unsound bible commentaries while their BIBLE became a dust magnet. This type believer is convinced that Faith saves them, and so, they believe and teach that the born again must hold onto their faith, or otherwise, they lose their salvation as a result of not holding onto it. = This is not the truth, but a lot of people believe it and teach it. So, lets nail something down in your soul so that you can rely on the Truth. You are not saved by holding on to anything. You are saved because GOD is holding on to you thru the Blood of Jesus. Now, from the last Thread, you'll recall (if you read it) ....that is was centered on Philippians 1:6...... "God who began your salvation IN YOU, will HIMSELF be Faithful to complete it"...= for you. So, as this is the case....then what your faith did, is get God to release His Righteousness unto you. So, its the Righteousness of Christ that God gives you, thru your BELIEVING, that is now counted as you being "justified by Faith", once and for all, in God's eternal perspective. Faith is not the Savior. GOD is the savior, thru Christ. And once you gave God your faith, once you BELLIEVED, then God Accepted this and this became your righteousness, that is God's eternal gift to you, that gave you the new birth, and put you "in Christ", and "Christ in You". God left Heaven, and became one of Us, virgin born, just to do this for you. Just to die for you... Its an eternal Love Gift paid for by the Blood of God Himself, as Jesus on the Cross. 2 ways to think of Faith would be to consider it the Channel thru which God sent His Righteousness. Or, you could consider Faith as the transmission device thru which God imputed His Righteousness into you, and upon you. But no matter how you consider faith, it is God who Saves and Faith activated Him to DO IT for you as a GIFT. "the Gift of Righteousness"... THE end result is that you are SAVED. BORN AGAIN. Heir of God and Joint Heir with Christ. A completed SALVATION, that is ONLY ONLY ONLY ONLY based on Jesus shedding His blood for you, so that your sin is removed, forgiven, and in its place what was your unrighteousness has now become Born again YOU as "the Righteousness of Christ". This is who you are now. You are now "in Christ" because Christ's very righteousness has become your new Eternal Identity. Christ is where you are, (in you) and you are where He is, "in Christ"... forever and ever and ever. Amen. So, here is the end result of your faith..... This is so remarkable. Look at this wonderful verse. Hebrews 12:2 '"Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith" Look at that. This is more remarkable Grace. As some of you read in the Thread from yesterday, It is God who starts (in you) and complete for you, your SALVATION..... Philippians 1:6 So, now , Praise God, you have Jesus Himself who now LITERALLY takes over your faith, within the Kingdom of God, and FINISHES IT FOR YOU.... You gave God your faith, then God takes this and starts and completes your Salvation, while Christ takes your Faith and FINISHES THIS FOR YOU AS WELL. Jesus is the "author" of your faith, by being the one who wrote it, in His blood. Then He finishes it, by His Resurrection, which is your Redemption and the Blood Atonement. When you "Look unto Jesus", you are BELIEVING....in the Gospel. To "Look unto" means to place trust in, and to BELIEVE...."unto Salvation". and then God and Christ take it from there. Grace is remarkable. God's Grace is a GIFT that in all ways totally completes your redemption for you. Its starts with believing the gospel (faith), then God completes your Salvation and Christ "authors" your Faith after you Believe. Its a literal and eternal contract between you God and Christ. This contract is literally written in the Blood of God, as Christ on the Cross. And this contract is your Salvation, and its a FREE GIFT. Isn't all this Amazing? Its Amazing GRACE, is what it is... and the more you look at it, the more Amazing it becomes to KNOW. God bless, <B><
  6. Before i write this Thread's simple message, i wanted to again encourage you, all of you, to go to your local Gym and sign up. Many people use "Planet Fitness", but, whatever, no matter which, find one, and use it. Your phone book, or just looking on the Web for Gyms in your CITY or TOWN, will give you several options, i would predict.. What age should you start? If you are 16 and over, then go to a gym. Use a cane? Have issues walking? Need someone to watch your dog? Go to a gym. A gym is a fountain of youth waiting for all, reader. It'll change your life for the better if you will go and be consistent about it. IN 2 weeks, or less, you'll feel very comfortable going, as you'll see the same people......etc, etc, etc. IN less then 2 months, you'll begin to truly realize why im telling you to go. In 6 months, and until a year, you'll be saying to yourself. "why did i never do this"... "I feel SO GOOD !!!!! " AND IT only gets better.....Try it. You'll see. ---------- So, i wrote a fairly detailed Thread yesterday "Eternal Security <> Salvation", and i hope you were able to read it and become even more secure in your Redemption if you already are, and if you are not, i hope that Thread and most of my Threads will help you to have a new understanding, a true understanding regarding God's Love poured out on you as an Eternal Redemption, thru the BLOOD of Christ. If you did read it yesterday, thank you, and i want to supplement it now with this Thread. And you can recall from the previous Thread's topic...... that Jesus will never leave you. Which explains WHY "Christ in you IS YOUR HOPE OF GLORY"..... And "hope of glory" means, you are going to heaven, expect this, look for this, and be happy about it. (HOPE). "Glory" is eternity with God with Christ.. Its everything that you will encounter after you are either Raptured or you die. And its all GOOD, and so good is it, that it has not even entered into your imagination, what God has prepared for those who love Him who are justified by Christ's blood. As i was driving to the Gym this morning, i was thinking about teaching the simplicity of salvation, as this is not always taught in a way that allows it to be seen in its simplicity. Now, ive taught the Grace of God all over the world, to people of many different cultures.... French, Asian, Russian, Muslim......etc.. And so, i learned that for Salvation to be understood as Jesus would want, for the benefit of the hearer, i need to be clear. --------------------------------------------------------------------- So here is a clear understanding of becoming saved.. Lets say, You are not saved. This means you are not joined to God and His Family and to Christ. The barrier is your Sin. Your sin has made you UNRIGHTEOUS..... So, Salvation is God's method of making you Righteous. Thats it. Thats all it is... You have no righteousness and so, you can't be joined to a Righteous God, whose name is HOLY. So, you have a prob. How do you get the righteousness that you need so that you can be a part of God's righteous family? And this is where all ideas and false theology and "religion" bite the dust and die. See there is nothing you can do, of yourself, to become righteous or STAY righteous. You can't of yourself do either. God knows this, so, He provided His very own Righteousness for you, as "the gift of Salvation", "the gift of Righteousness". The main difference between an unbeliever and a believer is that the believer has been given God's righteousness, as a gift. God righteousness, functions as a completed righteousness. Its all of it given to you, at once, and its sealed unto you, into you, and on you, until your day of redemption. (When you meet Jesus). God's righteousness Its Jesus on The Cross saying , "it is finished", and proving this is TRUTH by walking out of His Tomb....ALIVE. All of this is defined by and as GRACE. Grace, God's Grace, defines all of it. God's Grace, is Jesus. God's Grace is GOD making you Righteous. And the Righteousness He Gives you, comes from Jesus... who IS your Righteousness. Jesus is your Righteousness. If you are born again, then you have Jesus's Righteousness in place of your unrighteousness. Being "in Christ" means you are BECOME the Righteousness of Christ. This happened because God MADE YOU RIGHTEOUS when you FIRST BELIEVED. And in fact, you are exactly the same Righteousness as Christ, right now, and forever, if you are born again. Being SAVED, means you have Jesus in your heart, and in your Body. And Jesus said He will never leave you..... Being Redeemed means you have Jesus's Righteousness, in place of your unrighteousness. God dying as Jesus on the Cross is how God accomplished this for you. Jesus's sacrifice of Himself for you on the Cross, is how His Righteousness is given.... God then takes this Righteousness and offers it as "For God so loved the world, that He GAVE"..... And everyone who will call on the Name of Jesus, believing in their heart the Gospel, ... God sees each heart that does this, accepts this faith AS Righteousness, and He then takes The very righteousness of Himself, which is Christ's righteousness, and (imputes) GIVES IT TO YOU, and it becomes you. You as the "new creation in Christ" is you becoming God's very righteousness. "Christ in you", is what causes it, and you being "in Christ" is the result. And then it gets even better. Thats right, it gets even better. ..... First lets look at some words that actually mean "Grace", which actually mean "Jesus". Understand that Jesus is Grace. God's Grace IS Jesus... Jesus is Salvation. Jesus is Righteousness. Jesus is the Blood Atonement. Jesus is Redemption... Jesus is Eternal Life So, if you have Him inside you, if you are born again, then you have all those inside you, also. = Hallelujah !! .... And because Jesus said He will NEVER LEAVE YOU, then all of those concepts, that are your "Christ in you" reality..... are also never Going to leave you. Not ever. Simplified ?? = Because Jesus will never leave you, then Redemption, Eternal Life, The Blood Atonement, Justification, Sanctification, also will NEVER LEAVE YOU. So, do you see how God's Grace just keeps getting better and better? All of that is in you, because Jesus, who will never leave you, is in you. ------------------------------------------------- And here is the icing. Here is the pièce de résistance........ Philippians 1:6 """"Being confident of this very thing, that God which hath begun your Salvation in you will Himself perform it, until the day of Jesus Christ"" Saint......Notice this verse carefully, as its a Gold Mine in a universe of Glorious Hallelujah's . This verse is one of the greatest verses in the bible, maybe the greatest verse in the New Testament, outside of "God is Love and For God so loved that He gave, Jesus." This verse is telling you something, very very very important. Seal it in your heart. Deeply. Its telling you, that you can have Confidence in the reality, and the truth, regarding the FACT that God HIMSELF who started your Salvation, (made you Righteous) is Himself Going to Complete it for you..... until you meet Jesus. So what is the simple understanding of this verse? It means that God's salvation, that is given to YOU as a Gift, is all in His hands to complete for you, and He promises He will. It means that YOU DONT COMPLETE IT....... He DOES !! What you do, is try to please God with your life, that is your Discipleship, but that is not your Salvation. Your salvation is for God to complete, after Christ has become "Christ in you". Do you want the Koine Greek, and the Ghetto version, understanding? Do you want it right across the plate so that you can give it your best swing? Saint, this verse means, that God created HIS Salvation, that you dont control. A Grace, that you dont maintain. A Redemption that you dont supervise. Its simply means that God created His righteous merciful GRACE that saved you, so that you can't mess it up after it does. And that is why you can't lose your salvation. Its because God who started it, is the Same God who will finish it FOR YOU. Not you. Him. Philippians 1:6 This verse is simply teaching that The God who saved you, will Himself, keep you saved..... And as the verse tells you, you are to have CONFIDENCE IN GOD to do it. B
  7. Saint, Let me offer something that will really help a new Christian, and hopefully be a nice tune up for a pre-existing believer in Yeshua. So, if you want Light from God, then you have to get this revelation inside you, first, that im going to show you. This one..... You have to get this one....in the beginning of your walk with Christ... ..You absolutely must get this revelation of the Grace of God, or you will never be able to move deeper into the Light of the word of God as found in the New Testament. Questions ::: Have you ever wondered why there are a gazillion denominations, that all use a Bible, yet none of them agree? Have you ever wondered why there is no "unity" in the Body of Christ, no "same mind", within the worldwide world of all believers? Do you want to know why? Its because this verse posted next, is not known to most believers, and until it is known, and followed by ALL, there will never be any total unity between Christians in the world, on a forum, or between 2 Churches that are on the same STREET. The verse : Hebrews 13:9 : """"" Be not carried away with divers and strange doctrines. For it is a good thing that the heart be established with Grace; not with meats, which have not profited them that have been occupied therein. """ This verse teaches and explains what happened to the Body Of Christ, regarding why you have a ridiculous number of denominations that all disagree regarding "church doctrine". Its simple..... you have to get the foundation LAID PROPERLY< before you can build the HOUSE correctly, so that there is harmony and unity between all Believers in Yeshua Now notice that this verse teaches that "diverse/strange doctrines, and meats", are all the same idea....... And the verse explains what will happen if your heart, (eyes of your understanding).. that receives the light of Revelation", ) is not FIRST ESTABLISHED with GRACE.. = (The understanding regarding God's freely given Righteousness.) What happens is that all who are not established within their Heart by GRACE, will be carried away, caught up, confused by, and lost inside of HERESY.... Which is "divers and STRANGE Doctrine/meats", and there as so many of these around. So many churches built upon them... Millions of Believers caught up in them.... And only because they were not grounded in GRACE, early in their Christian Beginnings. Now, i recognize that some of you are already yawning, as you are an expert in Grace, regarding understanding this central principal of the redemptive work of Jesus's sacrifice on the Cross, and THANK YOU JESUS< that many of you, long ago, "got the revelation". However, and for the benefit of those who didnt and have lived their entire born again lives, so far, trying to earn God's approval by self effort...(Legalism)..> Let me show you why you are already Approved By God, so that you can stop trying to become what you have already become, that God's Grace has already MADE YOU. As you read your bible, you will run across this phrase a lot. "made unto you", and this is a Key Phrase that will help you understand that everything that God has done for you, Thru the Blood of Jesus, has been "made unto you" when you were born again......That is to say... God has REMADE YOU TO BE. Got it? See, Salvation is to be Literally and Spiritually "made into" something BY GOD, that you were not before. Many NT Verses explain this as being "translated from darkness to Light". becoming a "child of the Light". "as Jesus is So are WE on this Earth", " heir with God"... "joint heir with Christ". "New CREATION in Christ", "bone of Jesus bones and flesh of Jesus's flesh"...and on and on. So, you have to see that you have become something by NEW BIRTH that you were not before you were born again, as this is the eternal effect of God's 'made unto you" CHANGE from "Lost" to "saved" , from Christ rejector to "Child of God", from "damned" to "Saint". Now, lets get an understanding of where you go to get what you need to know... You have to know where to look to find what you need to learn. You dont just flip open a New Testament and hope for the best, as that is a waste of time. So, this means we must go to where you find all the info, the doctrinal info, that God wants you to study. Read a paperback. Study a bible. Books are for entertainment. Bibles are for gaining God's Knowledge. The Bible is full of Light. Study is how you turn on the Light for Life. Its the "ON" switch. To do this, you run directly to Paul's epistles. And the reason? Its because Paul's pen, is the direct descendant of the doctrinal information that came straight from the mouth of Jesus The Christ. Paul is the only disciple and the only Apostle whom Jesus personally took aside for a long time, and instructed into him regarding the "first hand" information that rightly divides the Word. You dont get the ultra-fine doctrinal details from Jude, or James, or Mark, or Peter. You get your Bible Doctrine, your Church Doctrine, your lifelong Theolgy from Paul, who received it directly from the Lord, himself. So, what i teach, is what Paul would teach you. As this is what any true Teacher of the Word of God is going to tell you, and teach you. Now, here is a golden nugget for you. If you want to know exactly what Paul wants you to know, that Jesus taught Him, then of course you read all his epistles. Thats a no-brainer... But, and here is what your Pastor, Minister, Pope, and commentary never told you....If you want to know exactly what Paul is going to teach someone in person, a literal disciple of His, then you go and read Timothy 1 & 2, and Titus.. As they are both Paul's converts. So, just become one of Paul's converts, ideally, by reading what he taught Timothy and Titus., as well as what he teaches the Church at large, in his Epistles. As a matter of Fact, if you are called to Teach or Preach or Pastor, then you need to live inside Timothy and Titus and all of Paul's epistles for a while........like in, .......a lifetime. So what does Paul teach about Grace? Well, he teaches that Sin has separated us from God. And this is an eternal problem for each of us, that if not solved, will cause us to end up after we die, separated from God in Eternity. Currently, if you are not born again, you are separated from God by your sin. However, as compared to ending up in Hell then the Lake of Fire, being alive down here and separated from God, is not quit the same level of consequence. So, this problem that we are all born into, has been solved by God. And its Paul who, in the New Testament, teaches us best and most often about the wonderful love of God as expressed as The Grace of God. Salvation, Eternal Life, Redemption, Jesus dying on the Cross, are all an extension of the Love of God as reflected in the Grace of God. The central issue and subject of the New Testament, is RIGHTEOUSNESS. And the central issue between a human being and God is their lack of righteousness and how to get it. God is often accused, falsely, of "sending people to hell", But in fact, its a lack of Righteousness that is the reason that a person will not live eternally where God lives. Hell and Heaven are simply final destinations. They are Eternal choices that someone is going to make, by receiving or by rejecting Christ. One is the home for the Righteous and one is the place that maintains the unrighteous dead, until they meet their final destination. So, this issue of how to get righteousness, is only a problem that God can solve. Our New Testament says that we have all sinned and fallen short of God's righteousness. So, right there, ends any method or means of saving ourselves or keeping ourselves saved. You've noted that on a Christian Forum you always find a busload of heretics trying to make you believe that you are in control of your righteousness, and that you can earn it, and keep it...otherwise you LOSE IT The fact is, you have no Righteousness apart from Christ's because your sinning eliminated your righteousness long ago, and you can never have it again, unless someone gives you theirs. Enter, God. Enter, Jesus. Enter, The Cross. as all these have come to give you Righteousness. ALL this im writing is simply what Paul teaches. He is the Main NT teacher regarding the understanding of the Grace of God as the love of God given by God coming to this earth to meet all the requirements of the law and then die offering us HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, for our sin. Jesus did more on the Cross then just suffer, bleed, and die. He literally became your SIN. 2nd Corinthians 5:21... and If you are born again, then your sin was lifted from you, erased for you, and in its place, you have received "The Righteousness of Christ". Salvation is Christ on a cross becoming your sin and bearing it, sacrificially, so that you will never be judged for it, in eternity. Being SAVED, means you are saved from being Judged in Eternity for your SIN...... Christ bore all your sin, by becoming your sin.... and you were given as a gift, His Righteousness. Maybe sometime you can think about this... God came down from heaven, to become your sin as well as your sin bearer and in doing so He became your Savior.. Jesus said. "Father if possible, let this cup pass from me".. And that cup, is God's wrath, his eternal judgment, poured out on HIMSELF on your behalf. And that my reader, is The Love of God as well as Amazing Grace. <B><
  8. Hello Reader Thanks for taking the time to read this Thread. This threads topic will be for me, a slight departure, as im a teacher that is trained in Pauline Theology and am an evangelist by "call", so, 99% of what i show you, is going to be related to Salvation, or to Paul's specific doctrines for the Church. So, Typically i dont speak much about the Old Testament, or about The Revelation. However, recent discussion with a person here has decided for me that i should post a nice simple and clear Thread about one subject in The Revelation, so that you can see it clearly. Generally, as i said, im going to stick to Pauline Theology, and happily so. The other reason I dont really spend a lot of time teaching The Revelation, is because if you put 100 Theologians in a room, all discussing this part of the New Testament, and you left them in there 100 yrs...... At the end of the 100 yrs, they still would not agree with each other, regarding all its content. Thats a fact. So, i prefer to stay where the ground is solid, the rabbit trails are covered with clarity, and the truth is not enamored in symbolism, and the main subject is the Cross. Thats what works for me, the best. Now i need you to think about this. I need you to realize that the central teaching of the New Testament is the subject of Righteousness. Jesus came to give it, and if you die without it, that's an eternal problem that you can't solve. Sometimes i teach and state that the Lake of Fire will be burning the unbelievers, for as long as God lives. And that is both harsh and true. What keeps it from being cruel, is the fact that anyone who end up there, chose this for themselves. They made a fully informed freewill decision to reject Christ, freely. Never will a person stand before God, who has heard the Gospel while on the earth, say to the Almighty, that its His fault that they end up in the Lake of Fire. After all, what more can God do to get you into His family then let His Son die to get you into it? So, if you, reader, end up standing before God as a Christ Rejector, you did so after reading what i just told you. So, you have no excuse, and you already knew to Trust Christ as your Savior before you ever read what i just said. Right? Lets be REAL.....thanks. Now, Saint, when you have your revelation right, when you have rightly divided the word correctly, through the Holy Spirt, then the New Testament will function together in perfect sense. In other words, when you have the right Light, then there will be no contradiction found in the New Testament. And when you are being taught by someone who is full of Light, then what they teach, will not contradict PAUL. Got that? And this is one of the main ways you discern who is lying to you, vs who is teaching you what agrees with Paul. And how much does this matter? It is the only thing that matters when you are learning the New Testament, and when you are being taught by someone. If your teacher does not align themselves with Paul's theology of the Grace of God, as an unearned GIFT, and similar........then RUN. Remember that. Remember that Paul makes the Cross OF EFFECT< and a heretic tries to make the Cross of Christ of NON-Effect., of NO Effect, regarding keeping you saved. I just used a magnifying glass on the heretics for you. So, cutting to the chase. All teaching regarding any subject in the New Testament, has to perfectly align with what Paul teachers, regarding any subject he teaches. If it doesn't then it heresy and the teacher is a heretic. So, if you want to protect yourself from a heretic, then you have to have the tool to do so. The Tool, is Paul and his Doctrine. If you know it, then you can spot a heretic in about the blink of an eye. Ok, lets look at a phrase in The Revelation and filter it through Paul's doctrine so that we dont end up in the land of confused heresy. Now if you study Paul's epistles, then you are familiar with "justification by faith" Alone. Notice that word "alone"? It is the word that separates the real believers and the "one true church" from the heretics and all their denominations. That word "alone" as indicated by the phrase "Justification by faith", simply and absolutey means that JESUS ALONE saved you and keeps you saved. And once you get this, once you see this, then all the heretics who try to make you pay for your own salvation, by telling you that you will "Lose it" if you dont complete their list, or if you dont twist a scripture as they do.......You are permanently delivered from them.... and that is a big part of my ministry. Its to protect REAL BELIEVERS from them, by getting you to the place in your understanding of The Grace of God where you can see them clearly, and recognize them instantly. ------------ ------------------------ Now lets get to this verse. Its this. Revelations 3:5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life" Now, look at the reason a name wont be blotted out of the book of life... "he that OVERCOMETH". So, who is this... Its this person... 1 John 5:5 """""Who is he that overcometh , but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?""" And who is this? This is all the born again.... see the "believeth that Jesus is the Son of God"? That's YOU, thats ME, thats all the born again. That is "he that OVERCOMETH"< in that verse about the BOOK. So, if you don't want to be the one whose name is blotted out of the book of LIFE, then be the overcomer who has TRUSTED IN CHRIST". Be BORN AGAIN. BE SAVED. OR, if you want to have your name blotted out of the book of LIFE, all you have to do is be a CHRIST REJECTOR,. and die. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now, let me give you the real teaching on this "Book of Life" so that the heretics can't fool you. You've seen that the believer in Christ is not blotted out of the book of Life. And that is the main thing you need to see. But what about this book? Ok, this is deeper water, and has to do with the foreknowledge of God. The foreknowledge of God, is God's ability to know all things, and that includes your thought and the intention of your motives, and it also means that God knows what is going to happen before it happens. This is foreknowledge. or, the knowledge of all things= be-FOR- it happens. The Lambs Book Of Life....what is it? Well, its a real book. And this book contains the name of every one who ever existed or will exist. You, me, Moses, Hitler, Adam, Eve, Donald Trump, and all the yet to be born. Its a "book of Life" that contains the names of all who will ever "be". As this is the foreknowledge of God, knowing all the names of all, and they are written down, "before the foundations of the world" in this BOOK. God also knew, "before the foundations of the world" that Jesus would be needed to come and die for your sin. So, all of this is known by God, before it was even HERE. The Book was in existence, before Mankind was created. Now, what about that blotting out.. A name is blotted out of that Book of Life. Recently a member here, who does not believe that Jesus Keeps You Saved, chose the "book of life" verse, to try to prove that a born again Christian can end up in hell with Christ in them. As you can see, this verse has nothing to so with the idea that you can lose your salvation. So, again....the book of life, is the FOREKNOWLEDGE of God, regarding the names of all who will ever exist, before they were born....all names of all ever created, written in this book. And remember what you do to get you name blotted out? = You dont BELIEVE, In Christ. So, each Christ Rejecter, has their name in the book before they are born, and their name is blotted out, because they died in UNBELIEF. I would offer the opinion that their name is blotted out before they die, because God already knew they would die a Christ Rejector. (Foreknowledge). So, that is how that Book Of Life works. Don't be one of those who gets blotted out. Be a Believer. Trust in Christ.. Keep your name in that Book. Choose Heaven, not hell. <B><
  9. This morning when i was in the Gym, and in fact, before i went and was doing about an hr of stretching and light weights, i was thinking about this "lose your salvation" madness that just infects so many Christian Forums and so many troubled Christians. Its is a sad fact that a person can be born again, and not actually understand anything about how and why, and be saved 40 yrs. Listen Saint... We live in an era where time is speeding up, info technology is off the rails, and Reality is becoming "virtual". So, the effect of all this on our minds, is to almost create a detachment from the real Truth, which is the Bible, and Who is heading our way from Heaven, soon. Also....Satan is alive. He is not Joking. He wants you in the dark, out of touch with God, and not really concerned about what really matters. So, let me talk more about heretics. I often ask one of these Forum heretics to post about Grace, and they never do. As a matter of fact, they usually become really really quiet. After all, a heretic obviously doesn't understand Grace, or they have rejected the Grace of God, in favor of only existing on a Christian Forum to obsessively try to ruin a REAL believer's peace of heart and soundness of Mind, by trying to Theologically con-job them into the Lake of Fire if they don't qualify for Heaven regarding the heretic's particular LIST of all the works they will teach that you must DO DO DO DO DO DO DO DO to >stay saved<,..... Notice that the heretic is always trying to keep Jesus from keeping you saved? Have you noticed this yet? The Heretic is always trying to give you a Salvation Substitute that keeps you saved. That's their calling-card. That's their Heretic ID Badge. They want Jesus off the Cross and you On it , saving yourself by whatever list they want you to keep. Maybe the list is "enduring to the end", or maybe the list is "Commandment keeping" or not "willfully sinning", or doing "works of Obedience", or the always popular, "well if you turn your back on God, or lose your faith, or renounce your faith"........ So, all of that is just works, its all YOUR EFFORT that they say you have to DO so that you dont "lose it", as according to them, you and NOT God thru Christ keeps you saved. = "HERESY". The question arises..... regarding all they say and teach....how could they know anything about The Grace of God, to begin with,????? and if they did, they have long ago rejected it. See, you can't be a True believer in the Free Gift of Salvation, and teach that you can lose your salvation. These 2 positions cancel each other out. This is "double minded" on hyper-steroids. God's Grace and "lose your salvation" do not exist within the same Blood Atonement, or Redemption, that is only found in the "gift of Righteousness". Its not by our WORKS but according to God's MERCY" that we are saved and stay saved.. See that? You have to want to not see that, if you can't see it. "not by WORKS".... And what is "works'........its everything that you can DO, Saint. Its your LIFESTYLE, your THINKING,...BEHAVIOR.. its all the parts that make up your DOING SOMTHING... Its all YOU YOU YOU......and that is NOT JESUS Saving you. And that is not having FAITH in Christ........at all.. Something that is interesting is that if a person believes they can "lose it", its because they are trusting in themselves to keep it. So, that means they are not trusting in Christ, to keep them saved, but only acknowledge that He began their Salvation. So, if anyone could lose their salvation because they have lost their faith, its the people who think and believe that they can lose their salvation, because the reason they believe this is because they are no longer trusting in Christ to keep them saved.....See how that works? So, they have literally become the victims of their own Christ Rejecting heresy, and are oblivious to their own lack of True Faith, as their spiritual condition. Its the pot calling the kettle black, and its the same person who is both the pot and the black. And its also a truth that as soon as a person becomes born again, they almost always have a desire to know more about the Bible...... and the cults, and the Devil, (same Heretics) both know this, so they are always looking for the new Christian to ruin , because the "babe in Christ" is an easy spiritual KILL, because they are so happy to BELIEVE YOU if you can speak a bit of Bible verse and seem sincere. The baby believer has no idea that the Church is infected with heresy, since Day 1.....and now a long time dumbed down by doctrinally inferior "new" Bible versions, and so, many New Believers just get trapped and ruined their very first year. And 40 yrs later, they are found on a Christian Forum trying to convince all born again believers that being born again isn't permanent, and that "Christ in You", is only as certain as the last time you confessed all your sins... (that you can recall). Ive shared Paul's doctrine of God's Grace with many many people who want to just beat their heads against a wall because i told them that " the Same God who saved you, will keep you saved"....and why? Because He said so.... Philippians 1:6. Ive had the same group try to use that same wall and their same heads when i tell them that "your Faith is not what saved you".. as this comment just stings self righteous flesh. But then if i remind this type that God SAVED them using the blood of Jesus, and that their Faith is what God accepted TO SAVE THEM, = to administer the Grace, to impute the redemption, their SALVATION< then they can often "see it". But till they do, they will cling to Faith as if FAITH...this idea and concept...... is actually the REDEEMER, and not Jesus Himself. "Got to hold onto your faith if you want to stay out of Hell. " Well, not quite. What you have to do is give God your Faith, so that He then SAVES YOU, and Keeps you saved.....because you did. A Heretic, believes that "working out your salvation with fear and trembling" means...."Save yourself, because Christ isn't going to do it unless you are good enough, obedient enough, etc"... Do you see what this really means? It means the heretic is discounting and denying The Blood of Jesus as being capable of keeping you saved. It means that the Heretic is not giving full credit to the finished work of Jesus on the Cross as what SAVES and Keeps you Saved, and they are instead taking credit for it, by what they believe they must DO"... (Self Saving).... And they'd have you believe this also, if possible. They'd have you up on that Cross right now if you'll just be self righteousness enough to go.... Don't do that. Instead give all the praise, honor, glory, and CREDIT, to the SAVIOR GOD as Jesus The Christ, who saved you, and keeps you saved the same WAY He saved you. = God made you RIGHTEOUS and The Blood of Jesus Keeps you Righteous. (Keeps you SAVED). Faith isn't the Redeemer. Jesus is the Redeemer, and God saves us through HIM because we did what God told us to do, so that He DOES. = we BELIEVED. so, "faith is counted as righteousness", but its the RIGHTEOUSNESS that is Imputed, that is charged to us, given freely as the "gift of Righteousness"... that makes us accepted by God, = Born Again. = SAVED. Can you do all that for yourself? Heretics think you can, and want you to try for the rest of your LIFE.... And that is why they try to fearmonger you into thinking you can LOSE YOUR SALVATION< = so then you'll start wondering and worrying and then you'll start trying to SAVE YOURSELF... = Stop Trusting in Christ ALONE to KEEP YOU SAVED. Listen, If you buy their baloney you'll start ranting about Commandment Keeping, and working works works works, and before long, you'll be their newly trained Heretic and think the only 3 epistles in the bible are Hebrews, James, and Matthew., where Heretics live. See how it works when you add it all up correctly? ??????????? So, is any reader sitting there wondering about this word FAITH? Kinda unsure about how to understand FAITH? Alright. Think of Salvation like this... You are sitting in a dark room. There is a ceiling fan light above your head. There is a light switch on the Wall. So, you turn on the Switch, and the Light comes on. Right? So, is the switch the LIGHT? Is the SWITCH the LIGHT? ? ? ? or is the Switch what causes the Light to come on? So, Faith is the SWITCH< but its not the Light. Jesus is the Light. Salvation is the LIGHT.. Grace is the Light. Redemption is the LIGHT..... .And God has this Light and wants to give it to "all who will" (flip the switch)...., and you RECEIVE it ALL, when you turn on the Switch.....The switch is Faith. But...Faith is only the switch. Eternal Redemption, is the LIGHT. So, dont confuse them as one, as they are not. Faith activates the ONE WHO SAVED YOU. Faith is the switch, Salvation, who is JESUS, is the LIGHT. Most Born again Christians don't begin with the idea that "Jesus started my Salvation, and now its my responsibility to keep myself out of hell for the rest of my life by being good enough". This is taught to them by heretics, and once they believe it, the Devil then directs them to the very few verses that seem, at first glance, (and not rightly divided), which seem to prove that your salvation is a slippery uphill slope and you are standing on the wet Soap. Thank GOD Thru Christ that the fact is, our Salvation is not dependent on our BEHAVIOR, but its solely dependent on our Father God who SAVED US. So, lets take the bullets out of the Heretics favorite Gun.... Lets take the fangs out of the snake. A Christian Forum Heretic is always found, twisting their favorite epistle (Hebrews).. and usually one specific verse that says,.."if we sin willfully", ...The heretic proudly proclaims...so if you do THAT you'll go to hell !!!!!, And the final answer is... Romans 4:8. Its Says that God does not charge your sin to you in eternity, (no Judgement for sin waiting for you there)..... so, willful, unwillful, kinda willful, 12% willful, 73% willful, or 110% willful, this verse isn't talking to anyone who is Born again, because ... A.) Every born again person has sinned willfully since they were saved. . B.) Romans 4:8 Heretics actually never closely read the verse, (or the New Testament) because, notice... this verse does not give you any way OUT. Its says, if you do it, you are going to hell. And so, how do you know this verse isn't speaking to a born again Christian? Its because every single born again Christian, has at some point after there are saved, committed at least ONE willful sin. Every one of you, and your Pastor, Mother, Me, all of us. And if you say you didn't mean to watch Game of Thrones for 7 seasons, or if you say that you accidentally cheated on your taxes,(a few times) or you accidentally called in sick to your job when you really were not, or (speaking very frankly now) you accidentally committed a sex act in your head-imagination with a "non-spouse" that you enjoyed.... or it was an accident that you had 3 more pieces of cake after that 5th one....... so, who has not sinned willfully since they were born again ????..... and yes "little willful sins" count.... The verse says if you SIN. >Singular< ONCE....."willfully". ...you are going to hell, and this cant be stopped, changed, undone, or confessed away, ... and penance and purgatory are also OUT ! So, do you see reader, that if this verse about "if we sin willfully", which has no remedy, and as all people, including all Born Again believers have sinned willfully at least ONCE< then this verse if its directed at the Body of Christ, has just condemned all of us to hell and then the lake of fire. And no way to change it. No way out. No way back. Understand ?? Sorry, no. , Wrongly Divided. So, lets "rightly divide". First... this book, (Hebrews) is not directed at the CHURCH< in its opening greeting. As if you'll notice , as compared, almost all of the Epistles that are written by Apostles are written to specific BELIEVERS by name or "Grettings to the CHRUCH at ___________."..... But not this BOOK. ITs written and directed to the HEBREWS.....(Unsaved Jews)....and so, now that we realize this....... we can now understand that there is only one sin that is unforgivable that THEY can commit, .. There is only One willful sin, that will never be forgiven, as that verse says..... And this sin is Christ rejection. as this IS the "willful sin", that sends you to hell, because, if you die a Christ Rejector, you have willingly and willfully done this..... And something else that your Sunday School Pastor probably didnt teach you, or your Pastor, if they talk about this verse, and that is..... Its Paul who is talking there to this group of HEBREWS, and He is the one who Wrote Romans 4:8...and delivered the Doctrine of Faith and Justification there by..... So, more then anyone, he would know that there is no "willful sinning" that can damn a Believer, as God does not impute your sin to you in eternity...... Paul is talking to a group of Jews. The epistle is written to the "Hebrews". So, ask yourself... would Paul be talking to born again people about sinning and being damned by one sin when He wrote that God does not charge ANY of your sin to you in eternity, in Romans 4:8? So, i'll tell you what Paul was doing, until Acts 28 when He told these same type of Hebrews Christ Rejectors, that he was finished with them and would take the Gospel to the GENTILES from then on..... Read it. So, you have Paul, writing to the Hebrews, and talking to unsaved Jews, who are rejecting the Gospel, and He is warning them that the sin of Christ rejection, this willful sin, that they are "sinning willfully" has no eternal forgiveness found for it, because if you DIE having rejected the Blood of Jesus and the Cross, there is no Blood of Christ left to save you., and you committed this sin WILLFULLY., and it is unpardonable. Its that sin, Reader... Free will is a blessing unless you use it to willfully reject Christ, and you die this way. = Having willfully committed the one WILLFUL sin, that eternally damns all who are damned. This is the Unpardonable Sin. So, Hebrews is NOT ADDRESSED to the "church", or to the Born again Believers....... Paul is not preaching to the Redeemed in this "sin willfully" verse found in Hebrews,.......of that, you can believe. Notice that Jesus said.....>"you must be born again".....but He didn't say......And then, "here is the list you have to do, and if you don't"....... "uh oh". No, the list comes from the self righteous, who are infected early on, usually, with heresy and thriving self righteousness, and then just never were able to recover themselves, as its actually pretty difficult to stop being a preacher of the Law, pretending this is "Salvation", once you get up and running and have been doing it for years. And what makes it worse for them, is that when they meet me, or someone like me, they feel that they are being persecuted for doing "God's work", and this makes them even more sure they are right. Calling them out, actually tends to empower the pride in a Heretic, but, it has to be done, openly, for the benefit of the real believers who might be so very harmed by them.... So, that's just how it has to be. That's how it is. Satan enjoys all this so much. He loves to pit self righteousness against Grace and watch the sparks fly around the world, as He understand that "can any 2 walk together, unless they be agreed ? " So, he creates entire denominations that TEACH people to trust in themselves, and their works, and their self righteousness, as their way to keep themselves saved. = And that is what Legalism is actually teaching. And what it causes is STRIFE, and "where strife is, is CONFUSION and every evil work"..... So, Who is the author of confusion? Satan. And that is why i always warn heretics by telling them..... wherever i meet them, that "You are doing the Devil's work", as this is a fact.
  10. Jesus said. "I and my Father are One". "If you've seen ME, you've seen the Father". Thomas the Apostle, kneeling, crying, said to the RISEN Lord Jesus....."My Lord and my God. " Jesus is the Living Bread who came down from Heaven to take you back to Heaven. Do you see Jesus smiling at you all the time? He is... Imagine Jesus wrapping His arms around you, and hugging your soul, as that is how Deeply He is able to touch you on the inside where you need it the most. Looking into the face of Jesus, you see the smile of God smiling back at YOU. Jesus is The Light of the World He Created. When Jesus said "Lazareth come forth" He was careful not to just say "come forth", as had He said this, then all the Graves on the entire planet would have released their Dead. Soon He is going to appear and say "RISE" and all who are dead "in Christ" will, and all the Living Born Again shall see their Holy King, Savior, and Lord. Jesus is The Grace of God. Jesus is The Blood Atonement. Jesus is Redemption. Jesus is Salvation. Jesus is Lord. Jesus is Risen. Jesus knows what you are thinking right now. If you wake up tomorrow,..... its only because God allowed it. Everything you own, including your next heartbeat and your last breath, belongs to the God who became one of us. God's Blood is what Jesus Paid to bring you back to the Family of God. Salvation by Faith, is the Faith of God expressed as the Sacrifice of Christ on the Cross, freely offered as redemption for the sin of the world. Jesus is The Good Shepard, The Prince of Heaven, and the Prince of Peace. When you received Jesus, God adopted you. Being born again is the 2nd time you were born. The real reason that God loves you, is because God is Love. God is the author of the endless 2nd Chance, and the Blood of Jesus is the reason why. Your Honest Effort is the work God rewards. God leaves the effort to us, and we leave the results to God. The reason that you will always have Eternal life, is because the ONE who IS Eternal Life lives within you and you are in Him. Should you die before the Rapture.....then.....The reason that the grave can't hold your body down is because Jesus who is STILL within you, IS the Resurrection. The Born again will always be where Jesus is always found. When Baby Jesus's tiny feet first touched the ground, they were touching the world He created. God does not remember your sins, if you are Born again. He only remembers the Blood of Christ that paid for them all. The final Answer is always , "Jesus".
  11. Salvation is remarkable. Christians understand the Cross as The Love of God poured out as The Blood of Jesus on the Cross, and Atheists, generally consider the Cross as anything but the Love Of God. Atheists, that ive talked to, over much time... in general, can't really wrap their head around the idea of God giving His Life for all of us, as a Gift of Love. And of course they are not able to believe that God became One of us, when in fact, they don't even believe that God exists.... So.. if they can't seem to relate at all to the idea of "laying down your life for a friend" as perfect Love, then certainly they are going to have huge issues with "Love your enemies ", = Jesus laying down His LIFE for those who hated Him when He was on the earth, and also for those who have hated Him ever since He ascended back to His original home with the Father of Creation and Grace.. But im not here to talk about Atheists, im here to talk about the reason that works and obedience before you are saved, which can't save you, also can keep you saved after you are Born Again. The Bumper Sticker reads like this..... "What Saved You, is what Saved You, accept no substitues", and that does not change the day after He saved you, nor does it change the last minute before you draw your last breath in your body, just before you meet your Savior. "What Saved You, is what Saved You.....accept no substitutes.". And the "What" is Jesus The Lord. This is why we call Him the Savior. Kinda makes sense, doesn't it. Now let me give that to you again....... all your good works, and all your obedience, and all your lifetime of 10 Commandment keeping that you can do- practice- and per-fect, BEFORE YOU ARE SAVED (Born Again), cannot save you, and all this also can't keep you saved after you are born again. So what does this really mean? ......... Are you born again? Then listen Saint..... it means that you can live as holy a life as you could possibly live, every second of your life, never break the 10 commandments...and do all of this until you are 109 yrs old, and you will die and go straight to hell like a bullet if you die and are not Saved. So, if the best you can do, is going to end you up in Hell if you are not born again.... then how can these same deeds, works, obedience, take your salvation away from you, once your are born again, if you don't do all the works, obedience, and so forth that could not save you to begin with? A.) ? = They Can't. Were you ever taught by a doctrinally sound teacher of the Word of God, or by the Holy Spirit Himself when you were alone with Him, that "what can't save you, also can't cause you to lose your salvation". And if neither of those have shown you this reality regarding Eternal Salvation, does your common sense not show it to you? Sure it does. Ask yourself......"if what i do, if all my good works, done perfectly, can't save me,.......... then how can these same works, affect my Eternal Salvation, once Jesus saves me, if i don't do what could not save me to begin with? A.) ? What saved you, saved you, and what can't has no effect on it.....EVER.......>NOT EVER. So, why can't being good, living holy, doing good deeds, and being a wonderful human being, get you into heaven, instead of directly into Hell after you die, if you are not SAVED? Why? Why can't your works, and enduring, and tithing, and church going, and holy living, and obedience to the 10 commandments, keep you out of HELL< after you die, if you are not Saved? Its because none of that can give you what you have to have, before God will accept you. Its because none of that can give you what you have to have, before God will accept you. Its because no works you do, no obedience you can perform, no "living a good life", "being a good person", "helping orphans", "cleaning the church", , can give you what God requires that you MUST have before He will accept you and keep you. = That's why. Thats why a good life, a clean life, being a good person, being a wonderful human being, who does not drink, smoke, cuss, watch porn, or hate..... is just as hell bound as a God hating Christ Rejecting child molester. Its because nothing you can do by SELF EFFORT, not ever, not EVER, will make you acceptable to God...........not ever. Does this mean you should not live a holy life, a good life, a clean life? No. What it means is that you come to understand some Truth about Salvation, (if you've not yet).... so that you are not living your entire Christian life sort of confused and nervous regarding truly understanding WHO SAVES ANYONE who was ever saved.. Lets understand perfectly........ that only what God accepts to save you, is what saves you and keeps your saved. God does not accept what an unbeliever believes and some fake christians say and teach saves them, which is....>"i'll do good, and some bad, and at the end God will judge all my works, and if my acts of good are a higher percentage then my bad, then JACKPOT !!< im in GLORY singing with the Angels."........Ummmm, no, you are in Hell once you die, and were going there the whole time you were breathing thinking you were ok. Ok, lets nail it down. Lets get it RIGHT.. and keep it there, forever. You , me, us, we are born with a problem, that only God can solve. And this is why He came down here, reader.... The problem is that nothing we can do can make us RIGHTEOUS. Nothing..... And God will not have you, me, or us, in His Family, unless we are RIGHTEOUS..... As Righteous as HE IS. So, out the window and down the river just went all your lifetime of trying to be good so that God will have you. He will NOT. As your good life is not RIGHTEOUS......it has no RIGHTEOUSNESS in it. And what is Righteousness, dear Reader? Its sinlessness. To be Righteous, (holy), is to be Sinless, in the EYES OF GOD. Not your eyes, but HIS. So, can all your good deeds make you sinless? If so then don't worry about the Cross, and just keep on going to church while you are on your way to hell thinking you are accepted by God because you are not quite as bad as the Preacher's wife, or perhaps me. Got it? Now lets get REAL. Jesus, the Bread of Heaven, the Prince of Glory, the Living Word, the Light of Life, the Sinless Son of God, Virgin Born, came down here to give you His Righteousness on a Cross so that God would have you as His OWN. Understand? And if that Righteousness has been given to you, then you are SAVED and will remain just as saved as God's Blood has made you HOLY<>Righteous. And this only happens because you have "believed on the Lord Jesus", and from your heart came this Faith that God accepted to SAVE YOU, and out of your mouth came the confession of your faith . And if you did this, then God has taken the Rightnessnrdd of Christ and He has given it to you, or as the word says.....He has "Made it unto you"......you are MADE RIGHTEOUS......and that is the only reason He will have you or keep you. NO OTHER REASON, will He take you, accept you, or keep you. So, can your works and lifestyle and obedience and confessing sin, do this for you? NO < NO < NO< NEVER !! So, again........... why are you saved? Is is because of you? Did you do it? Can you do it ??? So then, if you didn't save yourself, and can't, then can you keep yourself saved? NO. Only God can save you, and only God can Keep you saved, because of HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS that He has given to you, that He now Accepts, to accept you. "By faith you are saved and that not of yourself", "The Gift of Righteousness" "Justification by Faith". And if you see this....if you get this, if you have this understanding, then you understand the Grace of God, and if you dont, and you are saved or not, you will think and believe that your works and your obedience, save you, or keep you saved, and in both cases that is a Self Deception. Its an Untruth, and a complete impossibility. It is in fact Satan's Lie. God Himself had to give you His very Righteousness to take you, to Birth you, to have you, and to keep you. Jesus is your only Righteousness, and if you have Him, if you are born again, then God has you. So, Where are your works and your obedience? They are never ever accepted by God, to accept you. Not ever. And if you can see this, if you can grab this, and grasp it, then you have understood the Blood Atonement and the Redemption that is only found where it is Given. >The Cross". "It is NOT by works of righteousness (that we do) but by and according to God's Mercy, = He saved us". God's "mercy" is Jesus on The Cross dying for your sin, so that by this sacrifice, God is able to give you in place of your Sin, Christ's Righteousness. And that is WHY and the only WAY, that God will have you and keep you. What are your works and your obedience compared to the Holy Blood of Jesus The Christ? Do you see this??? "Jesus is the Way". And His Righteousness given to you, as He took your sin and became your Sin Bearer on the Cross, is the only means that God supplied Himself to accept you, and there is no other way to be accepted by God. "God who began your salvation in you, will himself be faithful to complete it". And He did all this on the Cross, and gives it to you (by Faith) as the "gift of Righteousness". So, where are your works and 10 commandment keeping in all that? They are not found in God's Righteousness. Not ever. Salvation, is God's Righteousness, (Christ on the Cross), given to you as the "Gift of Righteousness". God bless your eyes always to see. <B><
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    Sin update

    Interesting title, isn't it? So, here is a little teaching info about "sin", that you might contemplate. There are worse sins, then others.. Tho... im sure you were taught that sin is sin is sin, its all just sin, and in fact, if the context of the discussion is the Blood Atonement, then in fact, sin is just sin, and the Blood covers and redeems you from them all, no matter what you've done, and no matter how many times you've done it or will do it. Always remember, Saint, that confessing your same sins over and over does not erase what God through the Blood of Jesus, does not hold you accountable for, in eternity. Understand ? IN fact, if you read and believe Romans 4:8, you'll discoverer an amazing truth regarding your eternal redemption, and that is......even tho you sin, God does not hold you, the born again, accountable for any of them, in eternity. Down here, you reap what you sow....but that is not God's judgment, that is the law of "reaping and sowing" harming you for what you do wrong and won't stop. In fact, God does not even charge you for your sin after you are born again. Romans 4:8. And why not? Because He has already judged Christ for them all, on the Cross. So, if you are the victim of a very self righteous type of "christian upbringing" that has you believing that you need to always be confessing your sin so that the salvation you lost again can be returned, then once you realize that you dont have to do this, and instead recognize that Jesus is your Savior, now, yesterday, and forever.....you're going to feel a lot of relief. Now, should you have a talk with God about your bad behavior? Of course. Its good for the soul and clears the CONSCIENCE. So, how do you know that some sins are worse or greater then, others? = Because Jesus said so... in John 19:11. Read it. And here is something that is interesting about sinning... You don't have to literally do it, to be charged for doing it, as if you literally did it. This is because God is a judge of the thoughts, motives, and intentions of your heart. In fact, the "intent of your heart", is the main thing with God, and not so much you lifestyle. And the reason is. "As you think in your heart, so ARE YOU THAT"..... And this is interesting, because it can actually be the case that a person on the outside seems like a saint, and inside they are a devil. Many are like this. Many believers have their Christian Act down to an art , and can speak fluent Christianese in a pulpit or write it on a forum as if they invented righteousness. Yet, they are horrible people, inside, where it truly counts......where you can't bluff or fool the Almighty. Remember when Jesus said that " if a person lusts after a woman in their HEART". Well, this is the same as actually engaging in the lust with her. There are 2 types of sinners. One is the person who is usually head sinning, but never or seldom actually does the deed in real life, and then there is the person who is always doing the dirty deed. In the 2nd case, the law of "reaping and sowing" is going to cause a lot of hurt once it arrives. And how do you know there are 2 types of sinners? Well, its because God said this.... 1.) "if the unrighteous will turn from their THOUGHTS", and the 2.) "wicked turn from their DEEDS", God will have mercy on them. Isaiah 55:7 2 types.
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    Peace

    So what is ........Peace? Is there more then one type? So what is "peace" as we the redeemed should understand the 2 types? There is "peace" that the world gives. John 14: 27 This is a carnal feeling, fleshy, and its based on pursuit and lust. And once achieved the effect of this type of worldly peace, is that it fades and leaves you the same as it found you. Full of "empty". Jesus said, the peace that I give, "is not AS the World Gives"... John 14:27 So, we see from the words of Yeshua Himself, that there is a type of feeling that the world gives, that is not related to what He gives. Then you have these verses that are directed only to the born again... "and let the Peace of God rule in your heart".. Colossians 3:15 "God the Lord will speak peace to His people".. Psalm 85:8 "and the work of righteousness shall be Peace"... Isaiah 32:17 So how to understand what this all means, is easy, and seeing it will help you comprehend the severe distinction between what the world calls "peace", as compared to "the Peace of God that passes all understanding". Philippians 4:7 So, then.....what is the peace of God? Well the answer is........Jesus. Himself. He is Peace. He is the Prince of Peace.. And This is why this verse says....."now the LORD OF PEACE HIMSELF = Give you peace".. 2 Thessalonians 3:16 And how does He do this, and why can't the world do the same? Well, the world is not Jesus, and Jesus is not the world or of the world. The world has no Peace because it does not accept Jesus or want Him. So, the Christ rejecting world has no peace and having none, it can't offer any. How could it? But the born again, have peace. And this is because we have JESUS, who IS Peace, living inside us, = We have Peace. Jesus IS Peace. We have peace with God because Jesus who IS Peace, has made this happen for all the born again. So, ALL This is one more building block of revelation, regarding Salvation, that you need to understand. The simple revelation is, that Jesus IS Salvation. And so, if you have Him, if you are born again, then you are SAVED and for Eternity, because you have the one Who HIMSELF IS : 1. Grace 2. Peace 3. Redemption 4. Eternal Life 5. Justification 6. Sanctification 7. Atonement 8. Assurance The born again, have "Peace with God", because the One who IS Peace, Jesus the Lord, has eternally joined us to God. We are joined to Christ, Christ is God, and all are "One". This is the confidence of Salvation, of Peace. Jesus is Peace.
  14. The end result of salvation, is, that you are accepted by God. = Heaven is gained. Salvation, Grace, the Blood Atonement, (same) is the sole and singular method and entire means that God uses and provides, to accept you, and keep you as His, forever. Some, who are very self righteous, have the misconception that God saves them, and then they keep themselves saved. (Legalism). Of course all religion including Christian heretics would argue that man has some part in saving themselves..... But how can this be so? After all, what can you possibly offer God that would compete with or equal the Shed Blood of Jesus? If you are saved, you came to the Cross a sinner, and from the Cross Jesus Himself redeemed you. And your part in that is what? What is it? To RECEIVE WHAT GOD has provided for you thru the Cross, is your part. But what about living holy later? Well, that is what comes later, AFTER what SAVED YOU< Saved you FIRST. See it? God did it, you get it, and you dont get any credit for it, unless you have nail holes in your wrists and rose from the dead after dying for the sin of the world. Is that you? No. There is only One. So, some who are very self righteous, have the idea that after Jesus's blood ALONE has redeemed them, then their "holy lifestyle" kicks in as THEIR 2nd part of God's salvation plan. And of course, think......= if God didnt accept you or your lifestyle before He saved you, do you think He will accept your lifestyle later, along with the Blood of Jesus to save you and keep you saved? Funny how people can be so religious and so self righteous and try to take some of the credit for their salvation, instead of giving God and Christ all the credit for what they did, and they did, only. So what is it exactly that God did to save us and keep us saved? What is another way to look at Redemption, as there are many, and i'll offer you one now.... Well, to find an answer, you have to know the problem, first.. And so, what is the only problem that an unsaved human being has, that is keeping God from accepting them and taking them into His family? Its only one problem = Sin. This little word has great implication into eternity, as if this word, .. if what it means regarding each and everyone is not dealt with while you are breathing, then you will be dealing with the end result from the day you die until ............. Never ends. John 3:36 is the current situation facing every person who is not a believer in Christ and has NOT been born again. And God is not Joking. Look at the shed blood on the Cross and realize how serious God is about sin and the consequences of unforgiven sin, in eternity. Reader, if you are not saved then ......understand this.....Your SIN, cost Jesus His sinless life, and if you do not come to the Cross, then your sin is going to cost you your eternity, and there will be no second chance after you are dead. Christ died on the EARTH, and you take Him as your own savior on the EARTH, or not.. You do not get a redo, or a "take 2", after you die, and realize then the TRUTH, that im telling you right now. Really. So, what did God do for you, that resolves your sin issue, and mine, so that He can accept us, on HIS TERMS< and keep us, based on HIS FINAL SOLUTION> ? Very simple. He , God, is merciful to our UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, AND THEREFOR..... OUR SIN ONCE FORGIVEN at the CROSS, HE WILL REMEMBER NO MORE. For the born again, Its as if we never sinned. And this position "in Christ" continues from the moment of our new birth, until forever., as that is the effect of eternal justification that is given as the "free gift of salvation", "the gift of Righteousness", that is created and kept by the Blood Atonement. Hebrews 8:12 God deals with our unrighteousness, our sin, by Jesus becoming sin on the cross and taking the judgement for it all. Our entire lifetime of sinning, the eternal judgement due each of us for this....= This is the "cup" that Jesus spoke about that He was about to face. = The whipping and then the Cross and Death. This is HOW God dealt with the unrighteousness of the entire world. He died for it. John 3:16 And this Death, is the mercy and grace of God giving righteousness in place of our unrighteousness. This is Salvation. This is Grace. This is the "Gift of Righteousness", and we dont earn it, and we dont keep it, as it is given and kept by the same Holy One who provided it, for free. Philippians 1:6
  15. Sometimes a believer finds that they are not happy/content/satisfied within their heart. This didnt happen to them overnight, but rather it happened over time, gradually. One day they realized that they have not felt peace, or contentment, or hope,.......... in a while. So what happened. >>>> ??? Well, often its a very simple situation. Common..... And this is...... that you are a person of real faith, who really committed to Jesus at one point. You were all in. totally offered, totally submitted, devoted, sold out. And when you were this, when you were that person, this is the REAL YOU, this is your NEW IDENTITY "In Christ".. = you came to live within a born again place in God, a shelter and foundation in Christ, that removed you pretty much from the world. This is your "spiritual first love", and that is how it feels when you are in that place of submission and heart willingness. There was that time when all that mattered was Jesus. He was not just a name to you, or a distant figure on a cross, but He had become your wholeness, your inner completeness, your joy. But now, you dont find this to be who you are, anymore. You feel so different. So, its time that you go back to who you really are, who you are remade to be, by the Father thru Christ. So, simply, the problem is....once you have tasted the heavenly gift, the goodness of God, (born again) and have known this complete inner sense of wellness & of wholeness ......then if you slip away from this spiritual position, you will eventually really miss it. Understand....that once you are no longer living and walking in the light, then you are living in the dark, and when you are there you won't realize what has happened to you, until you DO realize it. See, spiritual darkness is a veil over your mind, and because it veils gradually, you really don't notice it as you enter into more and more of the dark. And when you are truly back in the dark, you start trying to fill your "Jesus void" with stuff...with activities, with TV, with everything that the eye can find to want to do. And when your inner diet becomes completely again all that the world has to offer you, you will eventually, if you are a true child of God, find yourself feeling empty, lifeless, unhappy..... Joyless. As all these feelings are the fruit of the inner man, when the inner man is feeding on the diet the dark world offers. Saint, the world offers you 3 feelings. Fleshy carnal fleeting happiness. A complete lack of satisfaction. And absolutely no contentment. Do you feel any of this, or all of this? Jesus is the opposite of all those, and what He imparts into you, is not only the remedy for those negative feelings, but a God created Joy and Wholeness and Wellness in your inner being that the world does not understand and can never provide. WE the born again are referred to as a "peculiar people", (in some NT versions) and that is how the world SEES us, because we do not live for the world, yet, we live in it. So, to the unbeliever, this is odd, this is not "normal" regarding their POV. So, if you are connecting with what im saying right now, then that is what has happened or is happening to you, IF....... you are the one who is hearing me right now. So, Saint..... to remedy this situation, to DEPART from this dark place that you are become inside yourself, you have to realize that you are not who you are in there....... and that is why you can't find the peace you want in your heart for a while now. The real peace you want is found and is kept when you are back to who you are, back to the place of endless wholeness and joy. Back to the loving arms and tender care of Jesus. Back to "first love". And you cannot ever again be satisfied or content with anything less. And when you try, you will always feel empty, and you will always feel wrong. Go home.... Jesus is the Light, and He leaves it on for you all the time. Its where you belong now and forever.
  16. I've been perplexed with the exact meaning of several Bible verses and parables; and how they fit together and what does it mean to me personally, and collectively as a church and the Christian body? Namely, the parable of the Ten Virgins of Matthew 25: and the following verses. I believe my understanding has changed. I'm not claiming this view is the correct one, but I think it's worth a civil discussion to compare our views. Luke 21:36 (KJV) Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man. Escape all these things, what things? I don't believe Jesus is talking about the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., I believe this is yet future. I believe this talks about the 'tribulation' and escaping it in the Harpazo. Matthew 24:38 (KJV) For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39. And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 40. Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41. Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42. Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. 43. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. 44. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. Whom do you suppose Jesus is talking to in the above verses? Is it the heathen, Jew's or believers and the church? As in the days of Noah, everything will be normal, there's prosperity and few worries, life goes on. The flood took them all by surprise and they were not expecting it even though Noah was preaching it for a hundred years. I now believe Jesus is talking to and warning the born again and the church to not be caught off guard, walk in His ways of righteousness and not living a carnal life when He unexpectedly comes for His church, the body of Christ. There doesn't seem to be any divisions between those taken; such as sheep and goats, the lost or the saved. It doesn't appear to me this is a Salvation issue. It appears to me, that those whom are ready and watching and patiently waiting, not living carnal lives but walking in righteousness and following the Lord are the ones Raptured. That these cited that were left behind, had previously accepted the Lord as their personal Savior, but reverted back to a carnal life; will have to enter the "Tribulation", even though their souls are saved. They will most likely have to become martyrs for the faith?
  17. With all the talk about OSAS and Legalism and Repenting and all this STUFF......... I thought it would be a good idea to show you an idea of how to think about salvation so that its really made to be understood ....as so very simple. Here we go.. Adam had the righteousness of God. He was made this way....(let us make man in our image....same as us, regarding spirituality)........Adam had God's Spirit in him. He was "righteous"......exactly like God. When he disobeyed, ate the apple...... He lost his Righteousness...and he spiritually died. ..He was no longer ONE with God, and had became "fallen"....or you could think of it as..,,,,, disconnected from God's Spirit and LIFE. Salvation is God reconnecting you to him, exactly as Adam was connected to God, before He fell. So, What had to happen so that WE who have this "adamic nature", this unrighteousness as our very spiritual SELVES........... what had to happen so that we could AGAIN be like the 1st Adam,= "sinless", "righteous? What had to happen, so that we could be reestablished as the same RIGHTEOUS, as the original Adam? Well, Jesus, the 2nd Adam, had to come and die, and give us HIS Righteousness, so that we are reestablished like Adam was spiritually..... before Adam the 1st lost his righteousness. See it? So, Salvation, is God reestablishing us, as the same RIGHTEOUSNESS, as Adam had before he fell. Its the same "one with God" in Spirit, that is our "born again" redemption. This is the effect of being BORN AGAIN......we are SPIRITUALLY remade the same as the 1st Adam before he fell, because the 2nd Adam, (Jesus), took our sin and died for it all, and gave us in place of our sin, ..his very righteousness. "the gift of Righteousness". So, this recreates us...(born again) to be the same as Adam was, SPIRITUALLY, BEFORE HE FELL. This is what Salvation does for us. This is BORN AGAIN.< blessings, <B><
  18. Jesus is the Holy Spirit. God is Jesus, "God was manifested in the Flesh" = Jesus 1 Timothy 3:16 "God is A Spirit" is the verse, vs some phony bibles that say "God is Spirit", .. so, check yours.....becasue "A" Spirit, is a specific TYPE....Its a HOLY One...."Holy Spirit". See, there is an UNHOLY Spirit, the spirit of "anti=Christ", and then there a "A" Spirit, (God is A Spirit), that designates for you the literal and clear distinction between Holy and unholy....so, if your bible says...."God is Spirit"< John 4:24 then get yourself a real bible that says.. "God is A Spirit". Very important. And also check and see if your bible says..."GOD was manifested in the Flesh" in 1 Timothy 3:26, as if it says, "He" instead of "God", then get rid of this bible, as its flawed, and not literally accurate. A flawed bible creates a flawed Christian. Thats a fact. The Holy Spirit is the "comforter" and Jesus is the "Prince of Peace". The Holy Spirit gives you comfort, and this is the "God kind". Jesus said, "My peace , (MY SPECIFIC TYPE OF PEACE), This is the Holy Spirit)... The peace I give is NOT as the (spirit of the world) gives,".. John 14: 27.... because Christ's peace IS the Holy Spirit, The Comforter... which is a heavenly peace. THIS Spirit, is God's, and it is the One that "fills you", and it is the one that "indwells you" only if you are born again, as this is the reason you are born again, and this is why the NT says that "if you don't have the Spirit of God, ( Holy Spirit indwelling you) then you are none of God's", you are not born again, and you are not saved. Romans 8:9 The Peace of God is not "happiness" , its a deep wellness in the soul. Its a comfort that is deeper then feelings. Its supernatural. This is the peace of God, Himself, that comes to live in a person the INSTANT they "Believe on the Lord and you SHALL BE SAVED",= right then.....and this is why many cry and cry when this happens, because this peace heals broken hearts. This peace heals wounded souls. This indwelling of the peace of God, which IS the Love of God, fills the emptiness, and this peace replaces addiction, lust, greed, envy, pride, hate, with self control.... and fills the human heart with contentment. AS ALL THIS is the indwelling fruit of the Holy Spirit. ( Jesus the Vine into us the Branches) Its the "God Effect" that comes to live inside a born again Person. Its the "Kingdom of God" that enters you as you enter INTO it. Colossians 1:13 = BORN AGAIN
  19. Gospel : Paul teaching = "preaching of the Cross". "we preach Christ Crucified"..."Jesus sent me not to baptize but to preach the Gospel".."faith comes by hearing this"..... So, all that, if believed by an unbeliever resolves an eternal issue...... What is the issue? What is God's purpose for coming to earth to die as Jesus The Christ on a Cross? What is He doing?...What is He alone solving, that all our 10 commandment keeping and holy lifestyle can never solve, which is WHY HE had to solve it? ? And right here is what is so often misunderstood, or not taught correctly, and this is why so many people who mean well, and love Jesus, or would like to love him, do not understand <>WHAT IS<> the actual reason that God came here to die. So what is that reason? The reason, is that keeping the law, the 10 commandments, and doing good works, confessing sin, and living as holy as we can, could not make us acceptable to God.. And here is the "catch 22".... It also can't AFTER you are saved. And right here is where "Legalism vs Grace" becomes the touchstone of constant fighting on forums, and everywhere else that it can show up where believers WILL clash. (Apparently this clash became such a long standing fight and fury on this forum that members here are barred from posting- fighting about it.) It is a fact and statement of the CROSS that the law and the 10 Commandments can't make you righteous, they can only show you that you are unrighteous., as that is the actual purpose of the Law, as well as outlining what God expects regarding our basic moral conduct & behavior, once we are born again. So, how can it be that half the body of Christ is trying to keep all this, all these works, and they believe that this is "keeping them saved". Whereas the other half of the body of Christ is trusting in Jesus to keep them saved. So, do you see the line in the sand? Its this " What is keeping you SAVED"....that is the minefield of theological confusion. THATS the fight. Legalism vs Grace. Its happening on every forum like this one, and its the reason for 5000 denominations that don't agree, and 300 bibles that don't agree. This issue started with Paul and his preaching of "justification by Faith" >alone, and he wrote the letter to the Galatians that talks about it, and explains it. 2000 yrs later, this issue of Legalism vs Grace is still a fist fight between "Christians". Here on this forum, apparently they outlawed the battle. Isn't it interesting to realize that if the 10 commandments, or lawkeeping, or living holy, could save you or keep you saved, if that were the truth, then Jesus could have stayed in Heaven and saved Himself some PAIN..... But ita not the case. Now im not certain what you have been taught, but i teach that you "present your body a living sacrifice" and you to "live holy as God is holy", not to save yourself or keep yourself saved, but because this is what you should do, and what God expects, .. because you ARE saved. The Legalist would argue that .."no, you do it to stay saved", and if you don't then you're not. I wonder, reader, what you believe. However, keep it to yourself, as this is between you and God, tho make sure you get it right, as if you get it wrong and you are teaching it, then Galatians 1:8 has become quite a literal issue for you. So, leaving all that now, lets just look at the problem that God had to come here and solve for us, as to look at this, is to understand the reason for Salvation which is to understand Salvation. Our problem we had, before we were saved, is only one thing, one issue only. And God Himself had to solve it, because we can't. We are born, and we get older, and we don't have any righteousness. None. And so, God can't accept us, because we are UNRIGHTEOUS. This is "lost", "unsaved"....hellbound = we don't have any RIGHTEOUSNESS< as all of ours, are "filthy rags". So, in steps SALVATION... Down from Heaven God as The Christ arrives... The Cross has been raised.... As God bleeding out on the "tree" has come down from Heaven to give us HIS righteousness so that He can accept us, based on THAT.......and for no other reason will He accept you, or me. God, literally became a man, and died on a Cross, to GIVE US "the righteousness of Christ". (God's very own righteousness). And that is what salvation actually is....Its God coming to earth to give us His righteousness so that HE can accept us, as by giving us His very righteousness, this makes us acceptable to God. Welcome to Salvation. Salvation is only.... "what makes you acceptable to God"....and that is one thing, its GOD'S Righteousness, becoming ours. A born again person, has literally BECOME "the righteousness of Christ", and Christ is GOD. To say that God's Grace is amazing, is really the least of what it is... How can you describe the wonder of God, dying to give you His righteousness in place of your unrighteousness, as a free Gift? Is there a word that can even claim to honor this spiritual transaction enough? Just one. LOVE. Agape` Love. God is LOVE.
  20. Shalom brothers & sisters, I hope you are all well and blessed! There has always been a debate amongst believers about what salvation is. However, it seems that recently this debate has erupted more and more throughout WCF. This is not another post to add to that debate. Even though I have a view on this matter, I’m not here to share it. If I did, we would probably see 14 pages worth of replies, with the majority of them filled with words of bitterness, accusations and throwing Scriptures like bombs! Oye. Instead, this post is talk about the conduct of some people in these debates. I include myself as well as I'm sure I have been unreasonable in my conduct in here at times, to my shame. -------- Some say “Once Saved, Always Saved” whilst others say “We’re saved to serve God and obey Him”. It’s clear that these apparent opposing views cannot be discussed reasonably in this forum. It's understandably a sore topic for those who are unstable in their faith or easily offended. But let’s zoom out to assess this problem: If one person is so utterly convinced that salvation is THIS way and another one that it’s THAT way, what are we to say? Well, if each person on each side of the argument has a relationship with Yahweh, and are blessed with His Spirit AND produce fruit of the Spirit, then let each one be as they are! The Lord has accepted them. What, is it not possible for Yahweh to reveal His Gift of Salvation in different ways to different people, with a different emphasis as appropriate? Or are we, humans, to box in Yahweh’s methods? Consider this writing from the Apostle Paul: “In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:20-21 I’m not saying which side of this salvation argument the “special purposes” applies to. Rather, it’s to highlight that there WILL be differences within the Lord’s House. Some will be separated for special purposes and some for common use. But all have a need and a purpose. Paul continues and writes: “And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.” ~ 2 Timothy 2:24-26 So, if we feel we should correct others, we should do so with peace, gentleness and in hope. Many in the forum struggle to do this or even engage in conversation with an open mind. They seem to prefer a position of power, assuming they are 100% right, with no need of correction, but are fully informed of the Way of the Lord Jesus. So, what can we do when both sides are so fully convinced and unable to reason with each other? Paul in Romans writes: “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall. And they will stand, for the Lord is able to make them stand. One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living. You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister? Or why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before God’s judgment seat.” ~ Romans 14:4-10 Therefore, should we not accept each other and our differences, even as the Lord accepted us all? Are we wiser than God in sifting through His servants to decide who truly understands Him and His ways? Aren’t you ultimately limited in your thinking, love and experience compared to our God? If a person wants to share their understanding of salvation, fine, welcome them lovingly! Consider their words carefully and thoughtfully and respond with love and peace. BUT, if they share with aggressiveness, closed-mindedness, or with a finality (as if they were a prophet) - then let them be, don’t encourage them with a response. Their foolishness will be revealed for all to see, along with their lack of fruit of the Spirit. Don’t entertain their folly or let their quarrelsome path draw you into their error. Remember, in all things to be conscious of your words, lest they only serve as sentiments you need to repent of one day. To those who feel lead to share such things, even if your intention is honourable, caring and loving but your execution is contrary to those values - It’s all been for nothing! You have lost the argument in ways you didn't imagine - even if you are, factually, correct. Forget “winning” a debate, and instead pursue love and peace within our family. Conclusion: If you can't drop your attitude, then drop the debate. You're anonymity on here is no cover to be disrespectful or rude. You're “wealth of knowledge” or “years of studying” is no license to judge a servant the Master has accepted. Love & Shalom
  21. Lets define "legalism" as defined by Paul, as Webster is not using the NT as context. "Legalism" is Galatians 1:8 ""there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. [8] But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let them be accursed. """" Notice that Legalism, taught or preached, "perverts" the Gospel. It subverts the Blood Atonement. It actually attacks the Cross, by denying Jesus full credit do for saving you and keeping you saved. It offends God, and that is why he curses the person and the message. Legalism, is the teaching that "faith + works" is what saves you and keeps you saved. And this "gospel" is a perversion of the truth. Its actually a denial of the Lord's words..spoken from the Cross = "it is Finished"....meaning The Blood Atonement.....Salvation. Let me explain it more clearly.... This verse is referring to a person (Legalist) who is preaching a gospel that is a blend of Jesus, the Cross, and their Works. (commandment keeping, enduring to the end, holding onto their faith.....etc, etc, etc.) Legalism, a Legalist, will give lip service, = a false presentation of the Gospel. And the way they always do it, is by adding 10 commandment keeping, and lifestyle, as a PART of the Blood Atonement. In other words, the Legalist, who is usually not actually born again, but is very apt at speaking "christianese", and uses bible verses, and goes to different Christian fourms to annoy and create chaos......will always defend the LAW and 10 Commandments as "necessary" to be saved, instead of giving FULL CREDIT DUE, to the One who died on the Cross, who HIMSELF is Grace and Salvation. Here is how you spot a lying legalist on a Christian forum. Its so easy. THis is how they "sound". "Yes, i know that Christ is the savior......BUT". "yes, i know that Jesus saves......BUT" See that "but"? That is the sign of the Legalist. They can never EVER agree that Jesus and the Blood of Christ is all that God accepts to save you and keep you saved. They can't agree with this, because they do not believe it. A Legalist, will always, add WORKS, 10 commandments", TO THE CROSS, and then they will all add LIFESTYLE, as well.., as this is how they are "working out their own salvation". The gospel of the legalist, is "faith + works". The Gospel of God is "The Cross". See their problem? Its a BIG One. A legalist sounds like this when they teach or preach....>."""now we know that Jesus saves, but, you ALSO have to ..........1. 2. ....3. 4.. 40.....do all this"" See all that? THAT IS Galatians 1:8 THat is "cursed of GOD" theology and PERSON, because it is adding to the Cross, self righteous works, and this denies The Lord His full credit due, for Salvation. This offends God, who is Jesus on the Cross, and that is why there is a literal CURSE on anyone who teaches or preaches that ... "The Cross + Works, commandments, lifestyle" is the Gospel.....is Salvation. How do YOU discover if you have fallen from Grace, and you are become a legalist. ?? Very simple. You just answer this simple question. Q.) Do you believe that Jesus Christ keeps you saved? I didnt ask you if He saved you. I asked you if you believe that He KEEPS You saved? A Legalist is not being honest if they say yes, because a legalist believes that enduring to the end, keeping your faith, living a holy life, keeping the law and the 10 commandments, is what is keeping THEM saved., so that is why they preach this cursed of God gospel to others. So, be careful reader, as a legalist has deceived themselves, so, that is what they will also offer you. B
  22. Here are some thoughts you might consider, regarding "Losing your Faith"...... and if your bible is near by.......... Here is the reality... > Your Faith does not save you. God SAVED you through your Faith. Big difference. Vital Distinction. So, falling away from it after you are SAVED, basically does nothing but allow God and others to esteem you as a backslider. This person is a sheep who is off the main path but they are not a "LOST" sheep, as they were previously found by Jesus's Blood and redeemed. There are a lot of Christian sheep who are no where near the path of Light, yet they are all Children of the Light. There is no verse in the NT that says....>"ok, you fell out of Christ". And that is because you can't. You are "bone of Jesus Christ's bones, and flesh of Jesus Christ's flesh". "ONE"...>"In Christ". "As Jesus is so are the born again in this world".... right now. "seated in heavenly placed, IN CHRIST....right now". And a backslidden (Christian) says,"" but, i downloaded porn yesterday, and today i stole money from my mother's bank account, and tomorrow im going to fornicate with my stepson again after he's back from Church.""" And this person, who is saved, yet doing all this..... is going to suffer down here. Not today, as sentence against sin, "reaping and sowing", is coming...but it does not happen the day you sin.....but its COMING.... So this person is going to HURT for what they are doing........its coming.........."Sowing and Reaping". This is explained by Ecclesiastes 8:11 Its explained by the "long-suffering (Patience) of God. However.....Paul details it the same.. = that if they dont turn from their "works OF the flesh", repent..... and get back into the righteous walk, then they will "reap what they have sown", be "chastened of God" over and over, and if that won't make them stop, they will , over time, lose everything, except for their Salvation. Family, job, money, friends, lifestyle .GONE.....and then they will get sick, and then they will die. Romans 8:13 As THAT is the final result of SIN, (sinning), as a believer, and continuing to LIVE IN IT. Seems fair... But, what is also a fact, is that this born again person, wont suffer in eternity for those sins, because Jesus has already died for all of them, on a Cross, on Earth. We as BIBLE believers are to understand that in Eternity, in Heaven, the only Sin that God evaluates, to evaluate you, is the one that rejected the Cross. This is the unpardonable sin., as if you do this one, then you prevent the Cross from taking your sin,.....and you die "un-pardoned".....= the un-pardonable....sin. = Christ Rejection. This is actually choosing to go to Hell. Bad choice. See.....Its only a Christ Rejector......it only THIS sin, that is alone dealt with In Heaven, in Revelation 20:11. Great White Throne. Believers die and meet Christ because we Trusted Him on EARTH, but if you didn't, then you dont meet Christ as your Savior, you only meet the JUDGE who Sent Jesus here, and you Rejected Him. And now God will reject YOU.......= Hell .... = THE LAKE OF FIRE ! So, if you are not saved, and you are reading this... please do not reject Christ and meet God as you Judge. Please don't do that. Received Jesus, Trust in Jesus..... kneel at the Cross and receive the LOVE of God.... End up happy in Heaven, and eternally so. Down here, on earth, a believer's bad behavior is dealt with by THE LAW OF... "reaping and sowing". And God will also correct a born again believer, .. Hebrews 12:6...and will anyway. Most Christians have not been taught all this basic NT understanding, but, i just told you, Saints...so, if this is not what you have known before........now you do. The born again meet God as their Father. The unsaved, meet God as their Judge. On earth, all meet "reaping and sowing" for sin or "works of the flesh"..., so, be sure your deeds are not the type that are going to harvest a season of pain in your life. It will come for you, if you do. Your sin will find you out, and it will HURT YOU when it finds you. See, we as humans, we want to judge how WE see it. (self righteousness) But God's ways are higher then ours, as in as high as Heaven is from the earth, is how differently God's thinks and behaves, as compared to how we would try to do the same. WE, as humans, can't even grasp how a holy God would come to earth and die for the UNGODLY. So, that is why, many believers can't stand the fact that God's Grace continues to be the same, for people who are born again,, but who don't live a holy life. What we want to think about them, is that they deserve hell. Thats how we feel.... That's our flesh. That is how it reacts, against the Grace of God, at times. The more of a legalist you are, the more you will have these types of feelings and beliefs. The more you are like Jesus, the less of them, will you have. But God does not see it OUR way. He only sees HIS OWN as "through the Blood". Our flesh rebels at this........but that is not How God responds to THEM. They are His Blood bought Children, and He does not love them less because they are horrible people. He saved them knowing they would turn out to be rotten stinking Christians. But Christians they are, and to HIM they belong, as "new BIRTH", as the Blood Atonement.....decided this for them. To God, ALL sin is pardoned on the CROSS and offered as SALVATION. In fact, that He does not charge you for yours, as Christ has already died for them ALL, is explained in this NT verse. Romans 4:8. If you reader, have not studied this verse deeply, then you are lacking even a shallow understanding of Grace. And you need to study this one also..... Hebrews 13:9. AS if you don't follow that one, early in your born again "babe in Christ" experience, then you'll end up as a devout Legalist on a forum like this one at some point teaching Galatians 1:8. Really. So, sgain....about "losing Faith".... A weak analogy would be : a marriage contract. Say you are married, and your wife or husband hates you. Hates you......Despises you.....and wished you would die....they wish you were dead. Well, do their feelings and attitude and "heart condition" and "words" .... end the marriage? NO < because there is a contract that overrides their hate and words. So, its the same with the Blood of Jesus...It overrides all we do wrong, after we are saved, including what we SAY or DO. ""where SIN Abounds (in the LIFE OF A BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN), .. GRACE more abounds". "God who began your salvation in you, will HIMSELF be FAITHFUL to COMPLETE it". Philippians 1:6 "Jesus is the author and FINISHER of your FAITH" Hebrews 12:2 In other words, you can't out-sin Grace. Many try it, but it can't be done. You can only "fall away" from it, and become what Paul is describing in Galatians. ""are you so FOOLISH< (that you use to Trust Christ to keep you saved) , but now you are gone BACK into the (flesh) worrying about the 10 commandments, and the law, and lifestyle, as the WAY you keep yourself saved"? You are FALLEN.......(gotten away from),........"Fallen from GRACE." This is the Legalist. So, understand that "holding onto your faith", is not principally different then keeping the 10 commandments, regarding its inability to save you or keep you saved. A person says......"but my faith is what saved me". And the NT says...."no, God saved you, through your faith". And Jesus said while ON the Cross, "it if finished". A believer says.... "ummm, well, ok, faith does not save me, it's God through the Blood of Jesus who SAVED me.....I see, BUT....what if i fall out of faith". ????? What if you do? What if you don't. This does not stipulate or control or condemn the redemption that has happened to you. "New Birth". "New Creation IN CHRIST". Faith does not do this, it only allows GOD TO DO IT TO YOU, FOR YOU, through your Faith. HE DID iT. ITS DONE. .... if you are born again. Ok, well, there are Legalists that hate this understanding. They will hate my entire Post. They hate it, because it does not allow them to feel they are saving themselves, and that of course, is their problem. Their legalism has replaced real FAITH In Christ ALONE... and so, Now they have resorted to faith in their faith, or its faith in their works.,, or both. This is Legalism. Legalism is literally a person climbing up on the Cross in their self effort to keep themselves SAVED. The legalist, has replace Jesus with > SELF Faith< (what i have to DO)... to TRY to KEEP themselves saved. Thats their issue. This is the issue of Legalism. Paul wrote all about this, in Galatians. Find a lot more about it there....... So, It really does come down to one realization. Its not what you trusted to SAVE YOU< but its what you are trusting to KEEP YOU SAVED.....is the issue. AS right here is where a legalist "falls from Grace", and into "self saving." This is why the legalist can't talk about the Cross, can't talk about Grace, can't talk about the Blood of Jesus with joy or deep understanding...... and how could they?... They can only talk about THEIR savior...which is themselves, trying not to "lose it"....and here comes their list of "do's and don't does to keep themselves saved. ...........10 commandments, overcoming, enduring to the end, the Law, lifestyle, holding unto their faith... and their "saving myself" list just keeps going and going, ........... And what is not on their list, is the Cross or Jesus or the Blood. So, that is the Legalist. They are "fallen from Grace". Grace no longer has a part in their redemption, in THEIR Mind, but in God's perspective these are just people who lost the light and pride kept it turned off . If they were born again, then this is unchanged.......and thank God for that. --- And one more about......." quitting faith, losing faith, ...." Lets say a Christian born again mother has a 2 yr old, that is kidnapped and murdered. So, they catch the person, and he goes to prison for life. But, in her broken and devestated heart, she is asking "why", Why didn't God prevent this.. ?? !!!!! So she says, and means it.... ="" I HATE YOU GOD. BURN IN HELL JESUS> DIE HOLY SPIRIT, .. I hope Heaven BURNS with the Angels in it SCREAMING !!!!!!!!""""" Now do you see that? You are awake now....right? Do you really think that God is going to cast HIS Child of God into the Lake of Fire for eternity....for those words, and that attitude? Is God's love unconditional ? Is the Cross weak at Redemption? Jesus, who is GOD, said that He is ""touched with the FEELINGS of our FEELINGS"". He knows exactly why we feel what we feel, and why we behave like we behave. So....no....this hurting broken destroyed woman is not going into the Lake of fire because she is literally blaming and hating God, and will continue to.......and may die this way, as a broken heart can kill you.........if its broken enough. And if she dies....then she'll meet Jesus, and there is her little girl."mama",, "mama". Talk about happy tears........ So, why does God Hating mama not end up in the Lake of Fire is she dies hating Christ ??? Because this person belongs to God.. She was bought with a price. Redemption is not a temporary solution. Redemption is an Eternal forgiveness. She is "in Christ", and "Christ IN this woman is her hope of Glory". YET....Christians have this idea that God is some sort of anemic, sensitive, can't deal with anything...... vengeful, lightning bolts, revenge seeking, neurotic, emotional infant. But the fact is, God is Love and Love is God's Grace, and Grace is the Blood Atonement, and this is so strong and so eternal, that you cant wash the Blood Of Jesus off your born again spirit by a bad attitude or a mouthful of Hate or a lifetime of living in the flesh. Salvation, is an eternal blood bought contract between the Blood of Jesus and your initial Faith, that results in you going to heaven to be with the family that GOD Joined you to, and put you in, based on THE CROSS.....ALONE. Its because.... once you signed up with Faith, God signed you up with His Eternal Blood. God , is Jesus on the Cross.....shedding His blood to bring you HOME AND KEEP YOU THERE. This is GRACE. Therefore, when you are "atoned for" by God's blood, (GRACE) it does not become voided by hatred, backsliding, or anything we do, and that is because it is GOD who created the means of the CROSS to accept us, and once He does......then that is the final answer. "Accepted in the Beloved". Now here is a little bit more for you.... So, "Faith, faith, faith"., what if i lose my faith". Ok, there is a unique answer for that question also given in the NT. Its in Romans. "Whatsoever is not of FAITH is sin..." So, if you lose your faith, you have sinned. And Romans 4:8 says that God does not charge your SIN to you....after you are washed in the blood of Jesus....so, the "lost faith" sin, is just one more that is under that blanket of Blood, ... all washed clean.. White as snow.
  23. Gospel : Paul teaching = "preaching of the Cross". "we preach Christ Crucified"..."Jesus sent me not to baptize but to preach the Gospel".."faith comes by hearing this"..... So, all that, if believed by an unbeliever resolves an eternal issue...... What is the issue? What is God's purpose for coming to earth to die as Jesus The Christ on a Cross? What is He doing?...What is He alone solving, that all our 10 commandment keeping and holy lifestyle can never solve, which is WHY HE had to solve it? ? And right here is what is so often misunderstood, or not taught correctly, and this is why so many people who mean well, and love Jesus, or would like to love him, do not understand <>WHAT IS<> the actual reason that God came here to die. So what is that reason? The reason, is that keeping the law, the 10 commandments, and doing good works, confessing sin, and living as holy as we can, could not make us acceptable to God.. And here is the "catch 22".... It also can't AFTER you are saved. And right here is where "Legalism vs Grace" becomes the touchstone of constant fighting on forums, and everywhere else that it can show up where believers WILL clash. (Apparently this clash became such a long standing fight and fury on this forum that members here are barred from posting- fighting about it.) It is a fact and statement of the CROSS that the law and the 10 Commandments can't make you righteous, they can only show you that you are unrighteous., as that is the actual purpose of the Law, as well as outlining what God expects regarding our basic moral conduct & behavior, once we are born again. So, how can it be that half the body of Christ is trying to keep all this, all these works, and they believe that this is "keeping them saved". Whereas the other half of the body of Christ is trusting in Jesus to keep them saved. So, do you see the line in the sand? Its this " What is keeping you SAVED"....that is the minefield of theological confusion. THATS the fight. Legalism vs Grace. Its happening on every forum like this one, and its the reason for 5000 denominations that don't agree, and 300 bibles that don't agree. This issue started with Paul and his preaching of "justification by Faith" >alone, and he wrote the letter to the Galatians that talks about it, and explains it. 2000 yrs later, this issue of Legalism vs Grace is still a fist fight between those who say they are "Christians". Isn't it interesting to realize that if the 10 commandments, or lawkeeping, or living holy, could save you or keep you saved, if that were the truth, then Jesus could have stayed in Heaven and saved Himself some PAIN..... But ita not the case. Now im not certain what you have been taught, but i teach that you "present your body a living sacrifice" and you to "live holy as God is holy", not to save yourself or keep yourself saved, but because this is what you should do, and what God expects, .. because you ARE saved. The Legalist would argue that .."no, you do it to stay saved", and if you don't then you're not. I wonder, reader, what you believe. So, leaving all that now, lets just look at the problem that God had to come here and solve for us, as to look at this, is to understand the reason for Salvation which is to understand Salvation. Our problem we had, before we were saved, is only one thing, one issue only. And God Himself had to solve it, because we can't. We are born, and we get older, and we don't have any righteousness. None. And so, God can't accept us, because we are UNRIGHTEOUS. This is "lost", "unsaved"....hellbound = we don't have any RIGHTEOUSNESS< as all of ours, are "filthy rags". So, in steps SALVATION... Down from Heaven God as The Christ arrives... The Cross has been raised.... As God bleeding out on the "tree" has come down from Heaven to give us HIS righteousness so that He can accept us, based on THAT.......and for no other reason will He accept you, or me. God, literally became a man, and died on a Cross, to GIVE US "the righteousness of Christ". (God's very own righteousness). And that is what salvation actually is....Its God coming to earth to give us His righteousness so that HE can accept us, as by giving us His very righteousness, this makes us acceptable to God. Welcome to Salvation. Salvation is only.... "what makes you acceptable to God"....and that is one thing, its GOD'S Righteousness, becoming ours. A born again person, has literally BECOME "the righteousness of Christ", and Christ is GOD. To say that God's Grace is amazing, is really the least of what it is... How can you describe the wonder of God, dying to give you His righteousness in place of your unrighteousness, as a free Gift? Is there a word that can even claim to honor this spiritual transaction enough? Just one. LOVE. Agape` Love. God is LOVE blessings, <B><
  24. A mystery is something that has not been uncovered or revealed. The Trinity is really not a mystery, as this is a misapplied definition that someone once used who didn't understand it, or didnt want to believe it, and it has sort of hung around Christendom, seemingly forever. Now then......The Bible lays out the reality of God's existence, generally, as 3 distinct aspects, yet as One individual whole.... So, here we go.... Lets take a look : First......Think of yourself......are you a spirit , a soul, and a body?......... How many is that?......Well, you are Tri-part being. You are 3 in One. Have you ever noticed the sun in the sky? The Sun: is Heat, Light, and Actinic rays. (ultraviolet, etc). That is 3 parts of the same ONE..... So, is that a mystery? The reason most Christians think of these type things as mysteries, is because we live in the natural world, we exit in the natural realm, and so, what we don't see with our eyes, = "mystery". "seeing is believing". So, God is 3. But He is One. ... Like this : Christ said that He is "In the Father", John 10:30 Thomas kneeled before Christ and said...>"my Lord and my GOD",..... and Jesus didn't correct Him. John 20:28 Christ said......."touch me not, i have not yet ascended to my Father and yours"........ John 20:17 The reason the Pharisees wanted to kill Jesus is .....1.) Envy. 2.) Legalism: Religious Spirit, and because Jesus said......"Before Abraham was...... I AM"....and this is Jesus referring to Himself "pre incarnate", as in Genesis 1, when He was not yet "God manifested as a man, in the FLESH". John 8:58 1 Timothy 3:16 So, we see that Jesus is talking about Himself (referring to Himself as God), before He was later come down from heaven as " God manifested in the FLesh"....... John 8:58 and 1 Timothy 3:16 Ok then, i wrote a simple and quick "Trinity" study recently that i'll now post for you to use if you feel like studying all this, that im posting for yuo Here is the rest.... - 1.) John 1:10.. If you read it, you'll read that Jesus was in and literally placed His feet on the World HE created. 2. ) Colossians 1:6 says that through JESUS, and by Jesus, all things were created. 3.) 1 Timothy 3:16 says that "God" was manifested, (was made flesh and walked among us as a Man) "" 4. ) John 20:28 says that Thomas the Apostle, upon first seeing Jesus after He rose from the dead , said... "My Lord AND MY GOD".... JESUS is the "word made flesh". God made all that you see, by speaking words. "Let there BE...... light, nature, creation, all of it"....>"Let there BE" is like saying, let there BECOME..... God spoke it, and it (creation) appeared. Genesis 1. In the beginning was the Word and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was/is God. So, there you have Jesus as the Word before He was sent here to die, being worshipped as God after He was sent here. That is God the Father, and Jesus as the Word made flesh = 2 Then add the Holy Spirit, the comforter...... = 1 2 +1 = 3 Three are "One", as Jesus says. "I and my Father are ONE"..... yet, they are each, one of themselves. "Trinity".
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