Men and Women in GOD's image?

[Ovedya]

If I were a dog I would presume that you would call me a "dog" and not a man. If I were a male dog I would presume that you would call me "he" and not "she." As it is I am a human man, therefore logically you would address me as a male. The term "he" denotes gender, not species.

So again, if God is a non-gendered entity, how is it that the Bible consistently refers to Him in the male gender? Why does the Bible not use both "she" and "He" interchangeably?

but that is not saying his "appearance" looks like a man's. and that is what i was questioning. where does the Bible say God's appearance looks like a man's?

Where in the Bible does it ever describe God's physical appearance as a man? It does, however, us the male gender in every case where God is mentioned. The declaration of th Father is the Son. Therefore, Jesus defines God:

"No one has ever seen God; the only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him." (John 1:18)

"Who, being the effulgence of His glory and the impress of His substance..." (Heb. 1:3a)

[Ovedya]

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SamP said

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

that's why i am asking where in the Bible it says that God does "indeed look like a man in appearance".

saying the Bible uses "He" in reference to God in no way answers this question.

How can it not? Have you ever seen a normal person being referred to as "he" that is not "a man in appearance"?

[Ovedya]

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SamP said

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

that's why i am asking where in the Bible it says that God does "indeed look like a man in appearance".

saying the Bible uses "He" in reference to God in no way answers this question.

How can it not? Have you ever seen a normal person being referred to as "he" that is not "a man in appearance"?

God is not a "normal person". He is Spirit. please don't put Him on your level.

are you saying God has male reproductive organs and chest hair? does He shave His face? is He broad chested and narrow waisted? as i've said, other things besides men are referred to as "he" and it has nothing at all to do with their appearance. being called "He" has nothing to do with God's appearance.

God came down to be a normal person - the most normal person in creation since the pre-fall Adam. I don't place God on my level - He did it Himself!

Second, as for "the parts of God," why does it even matter? Are you really curious to know if God has chest hair?

Finally, your reasoning is absurd. All males are called "he." Do you think that God looks like a woman and yet is called "He."? Such would be a defilement of God's nature, not to mention completely heretical.

[nebula]

... what i am asking is what physical attributes of God make Him appear as male? because the statement was made that He looks like a man in appearance , which you keep ignoring.

I think I see what Charitow is asking.

I don't believe she is questioning God being referred to as "He", but about the description of His appearance.

[Ovedya]

it's not my reasoning that is absurd. not everything that is called "he" is male. we label objects as male and female, but that doesn't mean they are. i don't think God looks in appearance like a man or a woman.

You're saying that because we call boats and aircraft "she" that The Bible is not clear as to God's gender or appearance? That doesn't sound a bit absurd to you?

So...God has no appearance according to you now? How is it then that God is described as having arms and legs, hair, a voice, and sits on a throne?

Let's add the definition for "appearance," as it is crucial to this discussion: "the state, condition, manner, or style in which a person or object appears; outward look or aspect"

So in the Bible when it describes God's hands, legs, hair, voice, etc., those things refer to "outward look or aspect." Yet it also calls God "Him.

Jesus took the form of a male when He was on earth, yes.

No. He was, "...found in fashion as a man," according to Phil. 2:8. This does not mean that He was merely in the "form" of a male, but that He was a real man. He was "the sum total of everything that comprises a man."

but nowhere in the Bible (that i know of, and that's why i asked) does it say God the Father's appearance is like a man. does God describe Himself as such? look at the descriptions He gives of Himself. does He describe Himself looking like a man? again, i don't know, but i'm not aware of any.

and no, i'm not curious whether God has chest hair or not. what i am asking is what physical attributes of God make Him appear as male? because the statement was made that He looks like a man in appearance , which you keep ignoring.

I am not ignoring the issue, I am trying to give you an alternative to the notion that the Bible has to describe His appearance as a man, when the issue is more or less settled by how He is referred to.

[kross]

When God says man kind he refers to all people. In this sense we can say that both male and female are made in Gods image.

God is Spirit and they that worship Him must do so in spirit and in truth. In the spiritual sense both male and female can worship God as equal Godly beings.

However, in the flesh a husband does have authority over his wife and children. But...

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

So, if you're speaking fleshly, yes males look like Him and when you speak spiritually, both male and female take on His image, likeness.

It is the spiritual man that is really important anyway, because no flesh person shall enter Heaven so thank God both men and women are on the same level in that particuliar sense.

where does the Bible say God looks like a man in appearance?

You will find something to that effect when you look at the scriptures where GOD alows Moses to see HIM on the mountain.

[Gauntlet]

When God says man kind he refers to all people. In this sense we can say that both male and female are made in Gods image.

God is Spirit and they that worship Him must do so in spirit and in truth. In the spiritual sense both male and female can worship God as equal Godly beings.

However, in the flesh a husband does have authority over his wife and children. But...

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

So, if you're speaking fleshly, yes males look like Him and when you speak spiritually, both male and female take on His image, likeness.

It is the spiritual man that is really important anyway, because no flesh person shall enter Heaven so thank God both men and women are on the same level in that particuliar sense.

where does the Bible say God looks like a man in appearance?

You will find something to that effect when you look at the scriptures where GOD alows Moses to see HIM on the mountain.

I think when GOD was revealed as HIS true self to Moses on that mountaintop, Moses was temporarily granted supernatural sight, eternal sight. His mind must have been changed as well as his eyes.

[Murse32]

When God says man kind he refers to all people. In this sense we can say that both male and female are made in Gods image.

God is Spirit and they that worship Him must do so in spirit and in truth. In the spiritual sense both male and female can worship God as equal Godly beings.

However, in the flesh a husband does have authority over his wife and children. But...

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

So, if you're speaking fleshly, yes males look like Him and when you speak spiritually, both male and female take on His image, likeness.

It is the spiritual man that is really important anyway, because no flesh person shall enter Heaven so thank God both men and women are on the same level in that particuliar sense.

where does the Bible say God looks like a man in appearance?

You will find something to that effect when you look at the scriptures where GOD alows Moses to see HIM on the mountain.

I think when GOD was revealed as HIS true self to Moses on that mountaintop, Moses was temporarily granted supernatural sight, eternal sight. His mind must have been changed as well as his eyes.

Well, not exactly. God never showed Himself to Moses. Moses got to see the end of God's glory as it passed. Basically, moses saw His back. Even moses had no idea of what God looks like...just that His glory was so bright and awing, it caused Moses face to glow...so that he had to wear a veil.

Exodus 33:20 But He said,

[Gauntlet]

When God says man kind he refers to all people. In this sense we can say that both male and female are made in Gods image.

God is Spirit and they that worship Him must do so in spirit and in truth. In the spiritual sense both male and female can worship God as equal Godly beings.

However, in the flesh a husband does have authority over his wife and children. But...

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

So, if you're speaking fleshly, yes males look like Him and when you speak spiritually, both male and female take on His image, likeness.

It is the spiritual man that is really important anyway, because no flesh person shall enter Heaven so thank God both men and women are on the same level in that particuliar sense.

where does the Bible say God looks like a man in appearance?

You will find something to that effect when you look at the scriptures where GOD alows Moses to see HIM on the mountain.

I think when GOD was revealed as HIS true self to Moses on that mountaintop, Moses was temporarily granted supernatural sight, eternal sight. His mind must have been changed as well as his eyes.

Well, not exactly. God never showed Himself to Moses. Moses got to see the end of God's glory as it passed. Basically, moses saw His back. Even moses had no idea of what God looks like...just that His glory was so bright and awing, it caused Moses face to glow...so that he had to wear a veil.

Exodus 33:20 But He said,

[exrockstar]

When God says man kind he refers to all people. In this sense we can say that both male and female are made in Gods image.

God is Spirit and they that worship Him must do so in spirit and in truth. In the spiritual sense both male and female can worship God as equal Godly beings.

However, in the flesh a husband does have authority over his wife and children. But...

When it says we're made in Gods image and likeness, remember, God is not a fleshly human being although He does indeed look like a man in appearance because the Bible says so.

So, if you're speaking fleshly, yes males look like Him and when you speak spiritually, both male and female take on His image, likeness.

It is the spiritual man that is really important anyway, because no flesh person shall enter Heaven so thank God both men and women are on the same level in that particuliar sense.

where does the Bible say God looks like a man in appearance?

You will find something to that effect when you look at the scriptures where GOD alows Moses to see HIM on the mountain.

I think when GOD was revealed as HIS true self to Moses on that mountaintop, Moses was temporarily granted supernatural sight, eternal sight. His mind must have been changed as well as his eyes.

Moses actually saw Jesus. It's the same Jesus you read about in the beginning of Revelations.

It has nothing to do with "eternal sight." What is eternal sight anyways? lol