arunangelo Posted January 2, 2010 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 149 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 2 Joined: 03/30/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2010 With the fall of Adam and Eve human beings separated themselves from God. They, therefore, wrote the laws in a language that lacked the Spirit of God. These laws, therefore, prescribed stoning to death as a punishment for adultery (Deuteronomy 22:22), and permitted divorce (Mark 10:4) and revenge (Leviticus 24:1`9-21). Furthermore, their writings often described God as jealous, revengeful and violent. However, in the fullness of time God took a human form and lived amongst us to ransom us from the law by putting His Spirit in our hearts (Galatians 4: 4-6). Furthermore, by humbling Himself to take a human form and by enduring suffering and death to save us (who betrayed, abused and killed Him) from sin; He showed us that He is faithful, meek, humble, patient, selfless, gentle, all-forgiving, non-condemning, merciful and infinite in love. He also showed us that to love others is to sacrifice our own interest in the process of helping those who hurt and betray us; and commands us to love others the way He loved us (John 15:12). To live by His Spirit, therefore, is to live a life of unconditional love. We must therefore forgive our transgressors without any limit (Luke 17:4); fight evil with love; sacrifice our own interest in order to help those who hurt and betray us; give to everyone who asks and not demand back what others have taken from us; give our shirt as well if someone takes our coat; offer the other cheek if someone slaps us on one; love our enemies; pray for those persecute us (Matt. 5: 39-40; Luke 6: 27-36; Matt. 5: 44); never to divorce our spouse (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18; Matthew 5: 31-32); and prefer to be wronged or robbed than to wrong others or rob them (1Cor. 6:7). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abisai Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 its very important that we study God's word.if you walk according to what God says then you will be wlking in the spirit. whenever you understand what God says about a situation and you act upon it then you will be practically walking in the spirit . Because the word of God is Spirit and life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desi2007 Posted January 2, 2010 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 61 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,220 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 219 Days Won: 3 Joined: 10/05/2007 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/18/1966 Share Posted January 2, 2010 With the fall of Adam and Eve human beings separated themselves from God. They, therefore, wrote the laws in a language that lacked the Spirit of God. These laws, therefore, prescribed stoning to death as a punishment for adultery (Deuteronomy 22:22), and permitted divorce (Mark 10:4) and revenge (Leviticus 24:1`9-21). Furthermore, their writings often described God as jealous, revengeful and violent. However, in the fullness of time God took a human form and lived amongst us to ransom us from the law by putting His Spirit in our hearts (Galatians 4: 4-6). Furthermore, by humbling Himself to take a human form and by enduring suffering and death to save us (who betrayed, abused and killed Him) from sin; He showed us that He is faithful, meek, humble, patient, selfless, gentle, all-forgiving, non-condemning, merciful and infinite in love. He also showed us that to love others is to sacrifice our own interest in the process of helping those who hurt and betray us; and commands us to love others the way He loved us (John 15:12). To live by His Spirit, therefore, is to live a life of unconditional love. We must therefore forgive our transgressors without any limit (Luke 17:4); fight evil with love; sacrifice our own interest in order to help those who hurt and betray us; give to everyone who asks and not demand back what others have taken from us; give our shirt as well if someone takes our coat; offer the other cheek if someone slaps us on one; love our enemies; pray for those persecute us (Matt. 5: 39-40; Luke 6: 27-36; Matt. 5: 44); never to divorce our spouse (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18; Matthew 5: 31-32); and prefer to be wronged or robbed than to wrong others or rob them (1Cor. 6:7). We have never been given the power to do, only the power to choose. If we choose the sinful nature, then we reap all the fruit of the sinful nature. When we come to a relationship with Jesus Christ, he places within us the power not to choose to live like that anymore. If we choose the Spirit then, he comes into our lives and lives through us. This is my understanding in how we live by the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest agua Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Living by the Spirit,to me,means putting spiritual matters first,and fleshly matters last.Paul tells Timothy the Holy Spirit gives power,love,and sound mind.He also says that serving as a soldier(for Christ)means not getting entangled in the affairs of this life.I suppose being entangled means they become our priority? So living by the Spirit means spiritual matters are our priority. We can be confident,without fear. 2Ti 1:7 For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind. 2Ti 2:3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ. 2Ti 2:4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Openly Curious Posted January 2, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 55 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,568 Content Per Day: 0.68 Reputation: 770 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/18/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 2, 2010 'arunangelo' date='Jan 2 2010, With the fall of Adam and Eve human beings separated themselves from God. They, therefore, wrote the laws in a language that lacked the Spirit of God. These laws, therefore, prescribed stoning to death as a punishment for adultery (Deuteronomy 22:22), and permitted divorce (Mark 10:4) and revenge (Leviticus24:1`921).Furthermore, their writings often described God as jealous, revengeful and violent. However, in the fullness of time God took a human form and lived amongst us to ransom us from the law by putting His Spirit in our hearts (Galatians 4: 4-6) Furthermore, by humbling Himself to take a human form and by enduring suffering and death to save us (who betrayed, abused and killed Him) from sin; He showed us that He is faithful, meek, humble, patient, selfless, gentle, all-forgiving, non-condemning, merciful and infinite in love. He also showed us that to love others is to sacrifice our own interest in the process of helping those who hurt and betray us; and commands us to love others the way He loved us (John 15:12). To live by His Spirit, therefore, is to live a life of unconditional love. We must therefore forgive our transgressors without any limit (Luke 17:4); fight evil with love; sacrifice our own interest in order to help those who hurt and betray us; give to everyone who asks and not demand back what others have taken from us; give our shirt as well if someone takes our coat; offer the other cheek if someone slaps us on one; love our enemies; pray for those persecute us (Matt. 5: 39-40; Luke 6: 27-36; Matt. 5: 44); never to divorce our spouse (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18; Matthew 5: 31-32); and prefer to be wronged or robbed than to wrong others or rob them (1Cor. 6:7). As I have read through your OP several times. I want to say that the Spirit of God was in the OT laws because it was God himself who gave the laws to Moses so that he could teach the people to walk therein. From Adam up until the time of Moses there were no laws written by anyone to be followed as the laws of God was given to Moses as God taught them to Moses. The laws that you spoke of that were wrote prior to Moses you spake of them in a manner in which God had nothing to do with for they lacked the Spirit of God therefore the laws were dead within out the Spirit. This couldn't be further from the truth as the laws of God were given to Moses by his own mouth this being the case the OT law did contain the Spirit of God for it was he alone who gave the laws to Moses to teach them to the children of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Elly Posted January 2, 2010 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 415 Content Per Day: 0.08 Reputation: 15 Days Won: 2 Joined: 07/31/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1945 Share Posted January 2, 2010 'arunangelo' date='Jan 2 2010, With the fall of Adam and Eve human beings separated themselves from God. They, therefore, wrote the laws in a language that lacked the Spirit of God. These laws, therefore, prescribed stoning to death as a punishment for adultery (Deuteronomy 22:22), and permitted divorce (Mark 10:4) and revenge (Leviticus24:1`921).Furthermore, their writings often described God as jealous, revengeful and violent. However, in the fullness of time God took a human form and lived amongst us to ransom us from the law by putting His Spirit in our hearts (Galatians 4: 4-6) Furthermore, by humbling Himself to take a human form and by enduring suffering and death to save us (who betrayed, abused and killed Him) from sin; He showed us that He is faithful, meek, humble, patient, selfless, gentle, all-forgiving, non-condemning, merciful and infinite in love. He also showed us that to love others is to sacrifice our own interest in the process of helping those who hurt and betray us; and commands us to love others the way He loved us (John 15:12). To live by His Spirit, therefore, is to live a life of unconditional love. We must therefore forgive our transgressors without any limit (Luke 17:4); fight evil with love; sacrifice our own interest in order to help those who hurt and betray us; give to everyone who asks and not demand back what others have taken from us; give our shirt as well if someone takes our coat; offer the other cheek if someone slaps us on one; love our enemies; pray for those persecute us (Matt. 5: 39-40; Luke 6: 27-36; Matt. 5: 44); never to divorce our spouse (Mk 10:11-12, Luke 6:18; Matthew 5: 31-32); and prefer to be wronged or robbed than to wrong others or rob them (1Cor. 6:7). As I have read through your OP several times. I want to say that the Spirit of God was in the OT laws because it was God himself who gave the laws to Moses so that he could teach the people to walk therein. From Adam up until the time of Moses there were no laws written by anyone to be followed as the laws of God was given to Moses as God taught them to Moses. The laws that you spoke of that were wrote prior to Moses you spake of them in a manner in which God had nothing to do with for they lacked the Spirit of God therefore the laws were dead within out the Spirit. This couldn't be further from the truth as the laws of God were given to Moses by his own mouth this being the case the OT law did contain the Spirit of God for it was he alone who gave the laws to Moses to teach them to the children of Israel. I totally agree. Also, Abraham did not have any laws written down anywhere, but he was the father of our faith. Enough people knew by word of mouth back then, going back to Adam, who God was and that they could serve him or not. God allowed those who followed him by faith with a right heart, to partake of his blessings and heaven afterward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker100 Posted January 19, 2010 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 137 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/16/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2010 Walking in the Spirit is obeying God in our hearts. It is listening to God's voice to love everyone and see every human being as infinitely precious and valuable. It is doing our best by the direction of God to help and love mankind. It is loving everyone we meet even those that do us wrong. Anyone can walk in the Spirit, both Christians and Non-Christians as God's voice is in everyone. Christians however can do something that non-Christians can't. Christians believe that Jesus is God and that God is love. In believing this they can meet, see and serve Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians can literally meet and serve Jesus in every person, the good and the bad. Jesus is Love. He is the love to be loved and the love the be served. He is love for other people. Thus Christians have an enormous gift! They can walk in the light. They can align their physcial action to be for God when their motives are for God as they now can do things directly for God by doing things directly to Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians come to Father by coming to Jesus in each person they meet. It is the gift of life and it is for all people! How blessed mankind is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 19, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2010 Walking in the Spirit is obeying God in our hearts. It is listening to God's voice to love everyone and see every human being as infinitely precious and valuable. It is doing our best by the direction of God to help and love mankind. It is loving everyone we meet even those that do us wrong. Anyone can walk in the Spirit, both Christians and Non-Christians as God's voice is in everyone. I have to disagree with you statement colored. The Holy Spirit resides in us, guiding us, teaching us, creating a us into the likeness of Christ. Unbelievers do not have the Holy Spirit; therefore, can not walk in the spirit as you say. Christians however can do something that non-Christians can't. Christians believe that Jesus is God and that God is love. In believing this they can meet, see and serve Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians can literally meet and serve Jesus in every person, the good and the bad. Jesus is Love. He is the love to be loved and the love the be served. He is love for other people. Thus Christians have an enormous gift! They can walk in the light. They can align their physcial action to be for God when their motives are for God as they now can do things directly for God by doing things directly to Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians come to Father by coming to Jesus in each person they meet. It is the gift of life and it is for all people! How blessed mankind is! Jesus is not in the unsaved, so they can not meet and serve Jesus in them. You need to be careful stating that those who are not His have Christ and the Holy Spirit in them ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Permie Posted January 19, 2010 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 213 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 0 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/14/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/12/1958 Share Posted January 19, 2010 Walking in the Spirit is obeying God in our hearts. It is listening to God's voice to love everyone and see every human being as infinitely precious and valuable. It is doing our best by the direction of God to help and love mankind. It is loving everyone we meet even those that do us wrong. Anyone can walk in the Spirit, both Christians and Non-Christians as God's voice is in everyone. I have to disagree with you statement colored. The Holy Spirit resides in us, guiding us, teaching us, creating a us into the likeness of Christ. Unbelievers do not have the Holy Spirit; therefore, can not walk in the spirit as you say. I read that differently. I didn't think "unbelievers" were being spoken about, but rather those who hold to the One True God. Christians however can do something that non-Christians can't. Christians believe that Jesus is God and that God is love. In believing this they can meet, see and serve Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians can literally meet and serve Jesus in every person, the good and the bad. Jesus is Love. He is the love to be loved and the love the be served. He is love for other people. Thus Christians have an enormous gift! They can walk in the light. They can align their physcial action to be for God when their motives are for God as they now can do things directly for God by doing things directly to Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians come to Father by coming to Jesus in each person they meet. It is the gift of life and it is for all people! How blessed mankind is! Jesus is not in the unsaved, so they can not meet and serve Jesus in them. You need to be careful stating that those who are not His have Christ and the Holy Spirit in them ... I would have used different terminology. Even so, what Spirit is it that returns to God that gave it upon physical death? I too think all have the Spirit, but that not all have been reconciled back to God yet. It is God's Spirit that animates us. Seems to me that none would live without His animating presence within us. I think also that if we were to first consider that what we "do to the least of these" by seeing the Christ Spirit within others, even if that Spirit has not been born in them, may... just may expedite it's birth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted January 19, 2010 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.23 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted January 19, 2010 Walking in the Spirit is obeying God in our hearts. It is listening to God's voice to love everyone and see every human being as infinitely precious and valuable. It is doing our best by the direction of God to help and love mankind. It is loving everyone we meet even those that do us wrong. Anyone can walk in the Spirit, both Christians and Non-Christians as God's voice is in everyone. I have to disagree with you statement colored. The Holy Spirit resides in us, guiding us, teaching us, creating a us into the likeness of Christ. Unbelievers do not have the Holy Spirit; therefore, can not walk in the spirit as you say. I read that differently. I didn't think "unbelievers" were being spoken about, but rather those who hold to the One True God. How can you read it any different then how it is written? Tell me, who are the "Non-Believers" that can walk in the Spirit? Christians however can do something that non-Christians can't. Christians believe that Jesus is God and that God is love. In believing this they can meet, see and serve Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians can literally meet and serve Jesus in every person, the good and the bad. Jesus is Love. He is the love to be loved and the love the be served. He is love for other people. Thus Christians have an enormous gift! They can walk in the light. They can align their physcial action to be for God when their motives are for God as they now can do things directly for God by doing things directly to Jesus in everyone they meet. Christians come to Father by coming to Jesus in each person they meet. It is the gift of life and it is for all people! How blessed mankind is! Jesus is not in the unsaved, so they can not meet and serve Jesus in them. You need to be careful stating that those who are not His have Christ and the Holy Spirit in them ... I would have used different terminology. Even so, what Spirit is it that returns to God that gave it upon physical death? The spirit of the believer, for the Holy Spirit is God, as with the Father and the Son. Known as the Trinity. I too think all have the Spirit, but that not all have been reconciled back to God yet. It is God's Spirit that animates us. Seems to me that none would live without His animating presence within us. Then your understanding of scripture is wrong. It is not until one accepts Christ that His Spirit is in us. Show me scripture where it tells us that the Holy Spirit is in everyone, saved and unsaved. I think also that if we were to first consider that what we "do to the least of these" by seeing the Christ Spirit within others, even if that Spirit has not been born in them, may... just may expedite it's birth. Provide scripture that states that His Spirit dwells in the unbeliever. John 14:26 But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you. John 15:26 But when the Helper comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father, He will testify of Me. John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said to them, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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