Beware the enemy mantra: "Democracy"

[Bold Believer]

Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism.

Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary!

Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future.

No, the people BEHIND the acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States. I suggest you read NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education by Samuel Blumenfeld.

As for your seeing no chance of socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future, I suggest you see an optometrist. What do you think Obamacare is? S O C I A L I S M. People clamoring for the government to provide jobs? S O C I A L I S M. Government entities banning this food or that? S O C I A L I S M. Government taking over the automoblie industry? S O C I A L I S M. UH helllooooooo.

[Steve_S]

Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism.

Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary!

Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future.

No, the people BEHIND the acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States. I suggest you read NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education by Samuel Blumenfeld.

As for your seeing no chance of socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future, I suggest you see an optometrist. What do you think Obamacare is? S O C I A L I S M. People clamoring for the government to provide jobs? S O C I A L I S M. Government entities banning this food or that? S O C I A L I S M. Government taking over the automoblie industry? S O C I A L I S M. UH helllooooooo.

We've had socialism since the 30s. "Social security" (ha, even the name social is in there) is socialism. Medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, even college pell grants, all socialism. Socialism and communism are both means for redistribution of wealth, meaning you take money, property, food, what have you, away from one group of people and pass it over to another who has less. The systems differ politically, though not that much, and the base premise is certainly the same for both. Right now there are already 98 million people in this country who have their healthcare completely or partially paid for by the government (as of 2009, probably over 100 million with baby boomer retirements). Well over 2 trillion dolllars this year on entitlements. The entire operating budget of the federal government, right now, if the government eliminated everything but entitlements and social discretionary spending (fancy word for social program) would still not be covered with tax receipts, not to mention the other 1.2 to 1.3+ trillion dollars that are spent on defense, education, etc. The age of socialism in this country has been here and entrenched for quite a while, but it's simply manifested in programs the people are completely used to.

[Bold Believer]

Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism.

Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary!

Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future.

No, the people BEHIND the acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States. I suggest you read NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education by Samuel Blumenfeld.

As for your seeing no chance of socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future, I suggest you see an optometrist. What do you think Obamacare is? S O C I A L I S M. People clamoring for the government to provide jobs? S O C I A L I S M. Government entities banning this food or that? S O C I A L I S M. Government taking over the automoblie industry? S O C I A L I S M. UH helllooooooo.

We've had socialism since the 30s. "Social security" (ha, even the name social is in there) is socialism. Medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, even college pell grants, all socialism. Socialism and communism are both means for redistribution of wealth, meaning you take money, property, food, what have you, away from one group of people and pass it over to another who has less. The systems differ politically, though not that much, and the base premise is certainly the same for both. Right now there are already 98 million people in this country who have their healthcare completely or partially paid for by the government (as of 2009, probably over 100 million with baby boomer retirements). Well over 2 trillion dolllars this year on entitlements. The entire operating budget of the federal government, right now, if the government eliminated everything but entitlements and social discretionary spending (fancy word for social program) would still not be covered with tax receipts, not to mention the other 1.2 to 1.3+ trillion dollars that are spent on defense, education, etc. The age of socialism in this country has been here and entrenched for quite a while, but it's simply manifested in programs the people are completely used to.

I'd like to know what the Federal Reserve is gonna say about the missing 9 trillion. They were called on the carpet about it today.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fapps%2Fnews%3Fpid%3Dwashingtonstory%26sid%3DaGq2B3XeGKok&h=b942c

[Steve_S]

Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism.

Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary!

Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future.

No, the people BEHIND the acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States. I suggest you read NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education by Samuel Blumenfeld.

As for your seeing no chance of socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future, I suggest you see an optometrist. What do you think Obamacare is? S O C I A L I S M. People clamoring for the government to provide jobs? S O C I A L I S M. Government entities banning this food or that? S O C I A L I S M. Government taking over the automoblie industry? S O C I A L I S M. UH helllooooooo.

We've had socialism since the 30s. "Social security" (ha, even the name social is in there) is socialism. Medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, even college pell grants, all socialism. Socialism and communism are both means for redistribution of wealth, meaning you take money, property, food, what have you, away from one group of people and pass it over to another who has less. The systems differ politically, though not that much, and the base premise is certainly the same for both. Right now there are already 98 million people in this country who have their healthcare completely or partially paid for by the government (as of 2009, probably over 100 million with baby boomer retirements). Well over 2 trillion dolllars this year on entitlements. The entire operating budget of the federal government, right now, if the government eliminated everything but entitlements and social discretionary spending (fancy word for social program) would still not be covered with tax receipts, not to mention the other 1.2 to 1.3+ trillion dollars that are spent on defense, education, etc. The age of socialism in this country has been here and entrenched for quite a while, but it's simply manifested in programs the people are completely used to.

I'd like to know what the Federal Reserve is gonna say about the missing 9 trillion. They were called on the carpet about it today.

http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fapps%2Fnews%3Fpid%3Dwashingtonstory%26sid%3DaGq2B3XeGKok&h=b942c

The fed will recoup a significant amount of that money from banks, and already has from the larger ones, bank of america, etc. Basically in my view the fed used to be the main problem and still is a problem. At this point though, personally, I believe the fed to be more likely to protect the currency than the government, mainly due to the fact that a lot of the people who run it or are influential have personal stakes in currency stability. Basically in a nutshell the only thing economically that I fear more than bad federal reserve policy is a congressional takeover of it, where you would have politicians printing potentially tens of trillions of dollars to get themselves reelected.

(This statement is from a purely pragmatic point of view, i.e. this is the situation we are in and we don't really have any other options at this point. Ideally there would be a precious metal standard and consistently static currency, but the likelihood of that occurring in any of our lifetimes in my view is incredibly low, so I pretty much don't even include it in what if scenarios anymore).

[other one]

Yes. Yes they are. Then NEA, the teachers' union, is teaching our children revisionist history, leaving out of the book any notion of how this country is formed, who and for what reasons we have fought wars, anything that keeps our children from being and thinking moral. And we all know what the MSM is doing, how and what they are reporting, how they are influencing the next generation towards socialism.

Acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States, very scary!

Personally I wish I could have more faith in your pessimism as, sadly, I see no chance of Socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future.

No, the people BEHIND the acronyms conspiring to undermine the United States. I suggest you read NEA: Trojan Horse in American Education by Samuel Blumenfeld.

As for your seeing no chance of socialism triumphing in the USA in the near future, I suggest you see an optometrist. What do you think Obamacare is? S O C I A L I S M. People clamoring for the government to provide jobs? S O C I A L I S M. Government entities banning this food or that? S O C I A L I S M. Government taking over the automoblie industry? S O C I A L I S M. UH helllooooooo.

We've had socialism since the 30s. "Social security" (ha, even the name social is in there) is socialism. Medicare, medicaid, welfare, food stamps, even college pell grants, all socialism. Socialism and communism are both means for redistribution of wealth, meaning you take money, property, food, what have you, away from one group of people and pass it over to another who has less. The systems differ politically, though not that much, and the base premise is certainly the same for both. Right now there are already 98 million people in this country who have their healthcare completely or partially paid for by the government (as of 2009, probably over 100 million with baby boomer retirements). Well over 2 trillion dolllars this year on entitlements. The entire operating budget of the federal government, right now, if the government eliminated everything but entitlements and social discretionary spending (fancy word for social program) would still not be covered with tax receipts, not to mention the other 1.2 to 1.3+ trillion dollars that are spent on defense, education, etc. The age of socialism in this country has been here and entrenched for quite a while, but it's simply manifested in programs the people are completely used to.

I'd like to know what the Federal Reserve is gonna say about the missing 9 trillion. They were called on the carpet about it today.

http://www.facebook....3XeGKok&h=b942c

"OOPS"

[amor]

When I see Bernard Bernard Sanders trouncing Obama and Palin and being innaugarated as the next President, I might start to believe that the USA is moving in the right (which for me clearly means the Left) direction!

[nebula]

OK, got that out of my system.

I just looked up what he stands for. No thanks.

'Nuff said.

(Sins y' a'r'n'd 'mer'c'n, I don'd havda 'rgoo 'bout id.)

[That's Baltimorean for: "Since you aren't American, I don't have to argue you about it.)

[MorningGlory]

When I see Bernard Bernard Sanders trouncing Obama and Palin and being innaugarated as the next President, I might start to believe that the USA is moving in the right (which for me clearly means the Left) direction!

When I see that.....I join a militia and become an anarchist.

[Matt712]

When I see Bernard Bernard Sanders trouncing Obama and Palin and being innaugarated as the next President, I might start to believe that the USA is moving in the right (which for me clearly means the Left) direction!

When I see that.....I join a militia and become an anarchist.

No matter who they elect next I might have to become an anarchist over it! Everyone in office (with only a couple exceptions) at every level of government is morally and ethically questionable at best. With people like that 'leading' us, It's amazing we are still any kind of Republic. And on the original topic, yes, we are a republic. That was the intent of the founding fathers all along. In a democracy everyone votes on everything, which is just not reasonable for any country, especially one this size. I have to say though...... America in places is starting to remind me of history lessons on ancient Rome. We need a 'decadence meter' posted somewhere prominent just so people know how far this nation has fallen.

I still love America BTW!! Just sayin' we gotta' lot o' shapin' up to do.

I have edited this to state that my tone may seem imflammatory and pessimistic, but I really do remain hopeful. It's hard to know that so many people in such a wonderful country are embracing values that will lead them, and others, to sorrow and separation from God.

Edited February 11, 2011 by Matt712

[MorningGlory]

When I see Bernard Bernard Sanders trouncing Obama and Palin and being innaugarated as the next President, I might start to believe that the USA is moving in the right (which for me clearly means the Left) direction!

When I see that.....I join a militia and become an anarchist.

No matter who they elect next I might have to become an anarchist over it! Everyone in office (with only a couple exceptions) at every level of government is morally and ethically questionable at best. With people like that 'leading' us, It's amazing we are still any kind of Republic. And on the original topic, yes, we are a republic. That was the intent of the founding fathers all along. In a democracy everyone votes on everything, which is just not reasonable for any country, especially one this size. I have to say though...... America in places is starting to remind me of history lessons on ancient Rome. We need a 'decadence meter' posted somewhere prominent just so people know how far this nation has fallen.

I still love America BTW!! Just sayin' we gotta' lot o' shapin' up to do.

I have edited this to state that my tone may seem imflammatory and pessimistic, but I really do remain hopeful. It's hard to know that so many people in such a wonderful country are embracing values that will lead them, and others, to sorrow and separation from God.

I don't read inflammatory or pessimistic; just realistic. I love this country too and I will never give up on it unless.....well, I won't go there but I don't think the U.S. is beyond repair. And not even CLOSE to the worst place on earth to live. We all just have to keep the faith and stand our ground against those who want European style socialism.