Creation???

[~candice~]

Again from Deem's website God and Science...

"The third day must have been longer than 24-hours, since the text indicates a process that would take a year or longer. On this day, God allowed the land to produce vegetation, tress and fruit. The text specifically states that the land produced trees that bore fruit with seed in it (3). Any horticulturist knows that fruit-bearing trees requires several years to grow to produce fruit. However, the text states that the land produced these trees (indicating a natural process) and that it all occurred on the third day. Obviously, such a "day" could not have been only 24 hours long."

Why could God not cause this process to take 24 hours? God is already supernaturally supporting creation and bringing it into existence. So why is there an issue with this specific supernatural occurance, but not the others in the account?

[OneLight]

When a statement is made by anyone, they are the one who needs to validate the truth in the statement. It is not up to everyone else to disprove it. By following your example, if you can't prove that Good does not live on KOLOB as the Mormons preach, then it is possible God does live on KOLOB and the Mormons may be correct..

The OP brought up Psalm 90:4. All I did was present another popular theory of that verse in a nutshell. I do realize that it is a theory which has not been proven or disproven.

I happen to believe the theory will be proven correct in the long run, for several different reasons. But I don't believe it can be proven either way, until Christ returns. I believe efforts attempting to prove or disprove it at this time will be fruitless and a waste of time, so don't expect me to participate in it.

You may have a different view, which does not bother me in the least.

This is a poll in which I voted for six 24 hour days, which is also what I believe, but I don't feel the need to prove this point either. If you believe something different, that's all well and good. I don't even care to challenge your beliefs in that regard, but I will not be told how I can or can not address Bible prophecy. I'm simply not going to be handcuffed in such a way.

Good day!

I see. Because I stated my belief that the 1000 year as a day theory cannot be used to determine creation, you feel I am telling you how to address prophecy or handcuffing you in how to believe. I am only telling you how I believe, not how you need to believe. If you feel I was using a parental voice, then please, accept my apology. That was not my intent. My intent was to stand strong in my belief.

You are correct. We will not know this side of being with Christ and this is not a salvation issue. I just cannot believe that each day mentioned in Genesis 1 took a thousand years to be accomplished. I believe that God can create anything as quick as He thinks and speaks it into existence. He does not need "time" to create. Science, on the other hand, can only measure, which is where this comes from.

God Bless.

[OneLight]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

I would argue that Adam dies spiritually that day, that 24 hour day. I see God speaking of Adam's spirit, not his body.

[goldust59]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

I would argue that Adam dies spiritually that day, that 24 hour day. I see God speaking of Adam's spirit, not his body.

I believe his spirit died at the moment of disobedience, but his sentence of death was not complete til his physical death.

[OneLight]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

I would argue that Adam dies spiritually that day, that 24 hour day. I see God speaking of Adam's spirit, not his body.

I believe his spirit died at the moment of disobedience, but his sentence of death was not complete til his physical death.

That sounds very similar to the argument the serpent used on Eve. Yet, God said in Genesis 2:17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” I believe the sentence was in full that very day.

[goldust59]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

I would argue that Adam dies spiritually that day, that 24 hour day. I see God speaking of Adam's spirit, not his body.

I believe his spirit died at the moment of disobedience, but his sentence of death was not complete til his physical death.

That sounds very similar to the argument the serpent used on Eve. Yet, God said in Genesis 2:17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die.” I believe the sentence was in full that very day.

LOL, That was funny OneLight. I guess we just see this differently. I see something in the 1000 yr=day, I just wish it was clearer to me just how it is significant.

I believe the sentence was in full that day too, it's just I don't see the day there as 24 hrs.

[e lansing]

like we will ever know the answer to this question And my dart toss is, very old

[Guest]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

Adam did die that day, spiritually. And that is what God cares about. The Spirit, not the body.

[goldust59]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

Adam did die that day, spiritually. And that is what God cares about. The Spirit, not the body.

I believe that He cares about both & that once our spirits are reborn, we will also receive a heavenly body as made possible by our Lord's resurrection. Our spirits are reborn when we accept Jesus as our savior, but our bodies are not yet redeemed. I see that as part of salvation too.

[Guest]

The reason I believe the literal 6 day creation is because God specifies "the evening & the morning were". Maybe I need to do a study on what is meant by "evening & morning", but that is how I see it at this time.

I would like to say though that the word 'day' is used to represent different time frames. When God told Adam he would die 'in the day' he disobeyed, Adam's death was not complete til his body died many years after. Using the 1000 yrs=day( 2 Peter 3:8) time frame, Adam died in the day he disobeyed. I still see something here.

Adam did die that day, spiritually. And that is what God cares about. The Spirit, not the body.

I believe that He cares about both & that once our spirits are reborn, we will also receive a heavenly body as made possible by our Lord's resurrection. Our spirits are reborn when we accept Jesus as our savior, but our bodies are not yet redeemed. I see that as part of salvation too.

We receive new, glorified bodies when we go to be with Christ. The bodies we have now are not anything like the bodies the Lord meant us to have. They are corrupted by sin. God is Spirit. And our spirit (which contains our soul) is what He is concerned about. But, I am not here to contend with you about this. Have a good evening.