goldust59 Posted July 24, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Share Posted July 24, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shiloh62 Posted July 24, 2011 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 83 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,683 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 51 Days Won: 1 Joined: 11/14/2008 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/14/1962 Share Posted July 24, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babbler Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 72 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 550 Content Per Day: 0.10 Reputation: 82 Days Won: 2 Joined: 11/08/2009 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2011 What about John Nelson Darby;s teachings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 What about John Nelson Darby;s teachings? The article about Margaret McDonald says that Darby believed the manifestations of the Spirit (tongues, interpretation, & healings) at her church were demonic. Why would he use her prophecy to promote his beliefs? It also says that Darby wrote out his pre trib rapture beliefs in 1827, 3 yrs before the prophecy was made.( I didn't double check these claims.) Again I say, the prophecy doesn't promote the pre trib view like I had been led to believe it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Who is margaret McDonald that we should pay any attention to her at all???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Who is margaret McDonald that we should pay any attention to her at all???? A woman that gave a prophecy in the early 1800's that was used to promote the pre trib rapture doctrine. I finally read the prophecy myself & don't see it there. I thought this was common knowledge about how this doctrine supposedly came into being. You don't have to pay attention to her at all, unless you think she had a real word from the Lord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Who is margaret McDonald that we should pay any attention to her at all???? A woman that gave a prophecy in the early 1800's that was used to promote the pre trib rapture doctrine. I finally read the prophecy myself & don't see it there. I thought this was common knowledge about how this doctrine supposedly came into being. You don't have to pay attention to her at all, unless you think she had a real word from the Lord. I've heard of her, but I never really understood why we would consider her a prophet. Did she heal the sick or raise the dead? Or just tell us she heard voices in her head. I don't ask in jest, I just really never understood why people would consider her a prophet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldust59 Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 108 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 989 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 124 Days Won: 6 Joined: 01/08/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/13/1959 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Who is margaret McDonald that we should pay any attention to her at all???? A woman that gave a prophecy in the early 1800's that was used to promote the pre trib rapture doctrine. I finally read the prophecy myself & don't see it there. I thought this was common knowledge about how this doctrine supposedly came into being. You don't have to pay attention to her at all, unless you think she had a real word from the Lord. I've heard of her, but I never really understood why we would consider her a prophet. Did she heal the sick or raise the dead? Or just tell us she heard voices in her head. I don't ask in jest, I just really never understood why people would consider her a prophet. My understanding is that she gave this word at a service in her church. I don't want to get into another argument over whether or not there are prophets today. I don't know that she was considered a prophet, I always thought she was operating in the gift of prophecy when she gave this word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 25, 2011 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 25, 2011 For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary Who is margaret McDonald that we should pay any attention to her at all???? A woman that gave a prophecy in the early 1800's that was used to promote the pre trib rapture doctrine. I finally read the prophecy myself & don't see it there. I thought this was common knowledge about how this doctrine supposedly came into being. You don't have to pay attention to her at all, unless you think she had a real word from the Lord. I've heard of her, but I never really understood why we would consider her a prophet. Did she heal the sick or raise the dead? Or just tell us she heard voices in her head. I don't ask in jest, I just really never understood why people would consider her a prophet. My understanding is that she gave this word at a service in her church. I don't want to get into another argument over whether or not there are prophets today. I don't know that she was considered a prophet, I always thought she was operating in the gift of prophecy when she gave this word. I wasn't aware of that. I thought she was something like Ellen White. Obviously I haven't looked into her very hard LoL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joulre2abba Posted February 9, 2018 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 463 Content Per Day: 0.20 Reputation: 175 Days Won: 0 Joined: 12/08/2017 Status: Offline Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 7/24/2011 at 12:23 PM, goldust59 said: For many years I heard (& even said) that the pre trib rapture was based on a prophecy given by Margaret McDonald in the 1830's. After reading the prophecy myself this morning, I do not see it promoting a pre trib rapture at all. In fact, the prophecy says that the trial of the church would be from the antichrist & that only what was of God would stand. The actual prophecy is rather interesting & can be found at Wikipedia: Margaret McDonald-visionary I was reading a serious of failed predictions (some from Christians, and others from various mystics, Jews and whatnot) and found this. In 1830 Margaret McDonald, a Christian prophetess, predicted that Robert Owen would be the Antichrist. The next line added: Owen helped found New Harmony, IN. I didn't read the Wikipedia on her yet. I just thought that it was appropriate to bring some perspective to Miss McDonald's questionable prophecies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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