Islam is the Enemy

[other one]

Islam's official definition of when there will be peace is when the entire world submits to Sharia law.

[Lothar's son]

I think we should always be wary of following the golden rule of apologetics.

When militant atheists pick up the worst Christian movements and present them as if they would represent Christendom as a whole, how would we feel?

 

There are many forms of islam, some of which are quite peaceful.

 

To my mind, the enemy is everyone who attack (physically or verbally) innocent, harmless people.

[OakWood]

I think we should always be wary of following the golden rule of apologetics.

When militant atheists pick up the worst Christian movements and present them as if they would represent Christendom as a whole, how would we feel?

 

There are many forms of islam, some of which are quite peaceful.

 

To my mind, the enemy is everyone who attack (physically or verbally) innocent, harmless people.

There is no peaceful Islam. You are mistaken.

[other one]

I think we should always be wary of following the golden rule of apologetics.

When militant atheists pick up the worst Christian movements and present them as if they would represent Christendom as a whole, how would we feel?

 

There are many forms of islam, some of which are quite peaceful.

 

To my mind, the enemy is everyone who attack (physically or verbally) innocent, harmless people.

Have you read the Koran and sharia law....   or read about the teachings of Mohammad in Bukhari's hadith......

[coheir]

 

 

 

 

I believe you are mistaken. The number one strategy of Satan is to ensure that money dominates every aspect of US society.

 

What is your evidence for belief? Or by what basis do you claim this?

 

 

 

He has, of course as part of that strategy, successfully deceived many Americans, including some American Christians, into thinking that accumulating money is a good thing. Jesus was very clear: you cannot serve God and money. Too many people think they can.

 

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What do you make of Sharia law becoming implemented in areas where Muslim populations are dominating?

 

Seems to work well in the UK with Jewish "law" in certain civic matters, likewise Sikh "law"; could also work in similar civil areas for Sharia. But mainstream law must be pre-eminent in criminal matters and matters of human rights.

 

 

problem is that is strictly against teachings of Islamic law.    the basic goal of Islam is to make the whole world subject to sharia law thereby subject to Allah...  and to do so by force if necessary

 

Most Muslims are purely pragmatic about these things. And are perfectly happy to operate Sharia in some civil matters, alongside the over-riding criminal law system. Just as Jews have done for many, many years. It seems to work well in the UK for both Jewish and Muslim communities.

 

Check this article

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2020382/You-entering-Sharia-law-Britain-As-Islamic-extremists-declare-Sharia-law-zone-London-suburb-worrying-social-moral-implications.html

[craigdressler]

While teaching in the the Middle East for five years I was never once treated badly. Muslims may not always be easy to reach with the Gospel, but they generally have a kind of hospitality that is seldom found in the West. The vast majority of them are not violent or prone to violence but friendly and easy to get along with. Reach out to a few of them and find that out for yourself.

[other one]

While teaching in the the Middle East for five years I was never once treated badly. Muslims may not always be easy to reach with the Gospel, but they generally have a kind of hospitality that is seldom found in the West. The vast majority of them are not violent or prone to violence but friendly and easy to get along with. Reach out to a few of them and find that out for yourself.

 

When they find out that I've read the Koran, and have copies of Sharia Law and usually spend an hour or so a week reading Bukhari's hadith and understand Mohammad's teaching, they don't seem to want to visit.  When they know you understand them, they will treat you differently

[coheir]

an article I found.

 

Textbook Jihad - Pro-Islamic Textbooks Infiltrate Florida Schools

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School officials in Florida are defending a textbook that declares Muhammad as the “Messenger of God” after critics accused an Islamic education group of launching a stealth jihad in American public school classrooms.

The Prentice World History textbook being used in Brevard Public Schools includes a 36-page chapter on Islam but no chapters on Christianity or Judaism.

According to a copy obtained by Fox News, The ninth grade textbook declares that Muhammad is the “Messenger of God” and instructs students that jihad is a duty that Muslims must follow.

“Jihad may be interpreted as a holy war to defend Islam and the Muslim community, much like the Crusades to defend Christianity,” the book states.

The textbook published large passages from the Koran, but failed to include any Scripture from the Bible. And while the book makes declarations about Muhammad being God’s messenger, it does not make declarations about Jesus being God’s son.

“Some believed he was the messiah,” the textbook noted in an entry about Jesus. The book noted that He was later executed, but failed to mention His resurrection.

Brevard Public Schools defended the textbook and said it provided a balanced view of world religions.

“An analysis of one textbook cannot provide a balanced understanding as to what the students in Brevard Public Schools are learning throughout their academic careers,” spokeswoman Michelle Irwin said in a statement.

She said the Prentice Hall World History textbook incorporated a review of the origin of Christianity and Judaism – subjects covered indepth in sixth grade classrooms.

She also pointed out the book was among those approved by the state of Florida and that parents as well as community members were given the opportunity to review the textbook before it was adopted.

The book has been used in the classroom for the past three years without any complaints – until now.

Susan Aspey, a spokeswoman for the book’s publisher, told Fox News the textbook is balanced.

“Pearson and its authors adhere to the highest editorial standards when creating course materials, which undergo a rigorous review process,” she said. “A review of the book shows there is balanced attention given to the beliefs of Islam, Judaism and Christianity.

William Saxton, the chairman of Citizens For National Security, testified before the Brevard, Fla. School Board, warning them that the book rewrites Islamic history and presents a biased and incorrect version of the Muslim faith.

“They promote Islam at the expense of Christianity and Judaism,” Saxton told Fox News. “It blew my mind to see the kind of propaganda, the pro-Islam information that’s in this book – at the expense of Christianity and Judaism.”

Saxton said he believes the inclusion is deliberate and he placed the blame an organization that was once called Council on Islamic Education. The group works with education officials and publishers to produce chapters on Islam for American textbooks.

But today, the Council on Islamic Education is known as the Institute on Religious and Civic Values. It’s founder, Shabbir Mansuri, is listed as an academic reviewer on the textbook used in Brevard County.

In 2001 the OC Weekly newspaper in California interviewed Mansuri about comments former Second Lady Lynne Cheney made lamenting the amount of time schools were spending teaching cultures that were not American. Mansuri took her comments as a personal attack.

“For the past 11 years, Mansuri has waged what he calls a ‘bloodless’ revolution: promoting an increased emphasis on world cultures and faiths – including Islam – inside American junior high and high school campuses,” the newspaper reported.

Saxton said he is highly suspicious of Mansuri’s organization and questioned why they changed their name.

“These people are dedicated to getting this language into the textbooks,” he said, noting their new name is “benign and does not sound “threatening or Islamic. “But the same people are running it.”

Saxton said they are hearing from concerned parents across the country – and the complaints have generally been the same: public school textbooks that favor Islam over other world religions.

“It’s a form of stealth jihad,” he said. “(Jihad) is not just blowing up buildings. It’s more subtle. I began to understand that one of the ways the bad guys are trying to threaten our way of life is through our children. The Islamists want to get to the hearts and minds of our kids.”

Saxton’s all-volunteer organization launched a nationwide study in 2009 to root out what they believed to be Islamic bias in American school textbooks. He said they found as many as 80 textbooks that overtly promoted Islam.

Last year, the Citizens For National Security was able to get a similar book removed from the classroom in Palm Beach County.

“In short, you are using an Islam-biased, flawed textbook that has neither partially nor fully been corrected,” he told Brevard County school leaders.

A spokesman for IRCV told Fox News they would agree to an interview but never returned repeated calls.

In 2009 Mansuri found himself facing similar accusations of promoting and glorifying Islam – accusations he strongly denied in an Orange County Register interview.

“IRCV is recognized within the education community for our expertise in teaching about world religions,” he told the newspaper. “This expertise stands from our long-standing interest in religious liberty, religious pluralism and the practice of faith within a civic social framework.”

He blamed the criticism on “children of 9-11,” who were miseducated, the newspaper reported.

Saxton said the Prentice Hall textbook is riddled with errors. He especially took issue with their definition of jihad. The book called it a personal duty for Muslims and a way to defend their faith.

“Violent Islamic groups have used jihad for centuries,” he said. “The 9-11 attacks were an example of jihad as terrorism, not self-defense. Declarations of jihad have been made for purposes of violence against Christians, Jews, Americans, British and fellow Muslims hundreds of times.”

The textbook also alleges that “Muslims consider Jews and Christians to be ‘People of the Book.’”

Saxton said in practice, Jews and Christians have been subjected historically to violence and murder by Muslims.

“Christians and Jews are permitted very few of the rights and freedoms that the Muslim majority is allowed,” he said.

The textbook said under Islamic law women are spiritually equal, although they may have different roles and rights.

“This content is confusing at best and intellectually dishonest at worst,” he said. In Egypt and other Arab countries, women may not be employed in the private sector because they belong in the home. Women are stoned to death under Sharia law in Iran for adultery.”

School Board member Amy Kneessy told Fox News she had a chance to read the textbook and she was especially troubled by the section about how Muslims treat women.

“I was really disheartened,” she said. “To see such a blatant misportrayal of how women are treated in Muslim countries, I found disconcerting.”

Kneessy said there seems to be a double-standard and found evidence of bias in a number of passages – especially when it came to religious wars.

“When wars were involving Jewish people or Christians, some very hard adjectives were used – like ‘massacre,’” she said. “Whereas when it was a Muslim group, it was ‘occupy’ or a very innocuous term.”

She said the school has an obligation to be fair and balanced when teaching history.

“War is never clean and tidy,” she said. “Wars are bloody. People die and bad things happen. The facts need to be reported fairly from all perspectives.”

Kneessy said she plans on asking the entire school board to reevaluate the textbook.

“I am concerned it is more ammunition that continues to water down what this country was founded on,” she said. “This country was founded with Christian values. God was very much a part of our government. When you take the religious context out of it, then you take away the very heart of what this country was founded on.”

[Guest shiloh357]

I think we should always be wary of following the golden rule of apologetics.

When militant atheists pick up the worst Christian movements and present them as if they would represent Christendom as a whole, how would we feel?

 

There are many forms of islam, some of which are quite peaceful.

 

To my mind, the enemy is everyone who attack (physically or verbally) innocent, harmless people.

You really need to study the history of Islam and its violent, psychopathic, pedophiliac founder.

[OakWood]

 

I think we should always be wary of following the golden rule of apologetics.

When militant atheists pick up the worst Christian movements and present them as if they would represent Christendom as a whole, how would we feel?

 

There are many forms of islam, some of which are quite peaceful.

 

To my mind, the enemy is everyone who attack (physically or verbally) innocent, harmless people.

You really need to study the history of Islam and its violent, psychopathic, pedophiliac founder.

 

 

There are no peaceful forms of Islam. Even the Sufis are considered 'heretics' and 'blasphemous' to most Muslims as they do not correctly follow the teachings of the Koran or Hadiths. Any peaceful sects of Islam are only peaceful because they are NOT practising Islam as the 'handbook' tells them.

Christians follow the Bible, Muslims follow the Koran. Heretic or false Christians twist the Bible or cherry-pick their verses. Peaceful Muslims do the same with their own scripture.

Whenever Muslims follow the teachings of Islam correctly, they will be practiicing jihad either by deceit or by violence.

There are no 'peaceful' forms of Islam - that is simply wishful thinking on the part of some 'Muslims' or denial on the part of others.