The 10 Terrible Provisions of Obamacare You May Not Have Heard Of

[amor]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

So those blessed with higher incomes shouldn't begrudge paying tax on a larger proportion of there income as tax than those on lower incomes. Progressive taxarion is fairer than flat rate taxation.

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And my labour makes them rich. Paying tax isn't a punishment it ensbles the stable society in which their businesses operate and they live.

[winsomebulldog]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

So those blessed with higher incomes shouldn't begrudge paying tax on a larger proportion of there income as tax than those on lower incomes. Progressive taxarion is fairer than flat rate taxation.

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And my labour makes them rich. Paying tax isn't a punishment it ensbles the stable society in which their businesses operate and they live.

I'm quite sure you get paid for that labor. And no one is saying the "rich" shouldn't be taxed at all, simply that it's wrong to tax them more because they've been successful at their chosen profession.

[appy]

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And you think those who are NOT wealthy do not work for what they have?. You don’t think that state and federal income taxes hurt the lower income earners? Only the wealthy huh?

I’m reminded of the statement the queen of mean said. "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.”

[jasoncran]

"we the people" arent being represented lately and havent been for a long time.

Clearly, the people of the USA are represented by way of senators, members of the house of representatives and the president all of whom are elected by the people. If a majority vote against Obama in November, you 'll be able to get rid of Obamacare.

unlike many inthisworld you're not oppressed

yeah right, keep telling yourself that. theres not difference between the parties these days. both spend too much and with the left its special interests and the right mega business(though the left does this too). why do millioniares run for office if they arent in it for themselves? they make far more in perks and the retirment for one term. so its the rich taking care of the wealty. in some counties the local politicians dont get paid.

im for that on the local level. we dont need to pay them it should be a voluntary thing and they only get remembursed for travel and car usage.

[winsomebulldog]

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And you think those who are NOT wealthy do not work for what they have?. You don’t think that state and federal income taxes hurt the lower income earners? Only the wealthy huh?

I’m reminded of the statement the queen of mean said. "We don't pay taxes. Only the little people pay taxes.”

This is the second time I've seen someone respond this way to BB's words. I don't see where he ever suggested that the non-wealthy don't work for their income. IMHO, all he's saying is that it's becoming increasingly popular to blame the "rich" for the troubles of those who are not among their ranks. The reality is that most of the time (notice I did not say ALWAYS) the financial difficulties endured by the middle class and others are problems they have brought on themselves. And I'm not trying to bash the "poor" here, because I've been there myself. My husband and I have often lamented the stupid and irresponsible financial choices we made in the past. Choices that cost us untold amounts of money in fees and interest charges from credit cards and loans. We have broken that cycle now and learned from our mistakes. If we can't pay cash for it, we don't buy it. Period.

I am appalled by the blatant greed that I have personally witnessed in many of the "rich." However much money they have, it often just never seems to be enough. One only needs to look at how the majority of modern businesses are run to see this proven on a daily basis. The profit margin is the god the corporate world worships.

However, I still do not believe imposing higher taxes on the wealthy is the answer. Because I have seen first hand how they respond. They just pass that financial burden down the chain to those beneath them. Businesses who are forced to pay higher taxes on their profit cut expenses by reducing the number of employees. Or worse, they close shop and move to another country were they can pay much less for labor. It happens every day. It happened to us when the company my husband had dedicated his entire career to moved to Mexico.

I'm not some kind of right-wing nut who thinks we must give untold concessions to the super rich and mega-corporations. In fact, I'm very much the opposite. I'm a conservative who believes we need to flat out do away with the countless concessions and loopholes, and while we're at it, I believe we need to not only outlaw lobbying and special interests, I think we need to make it a crime for any politician to take any kind of "gift" from any business. And no more "bailing out" failing businesses. If they're so bad at managing themselves that they cannot remain viable then they don't deserve to remain in business. Simple.

Basically, I think we need to scrap the entire tax system and streamline it. A flat rate tax across the board would be a very easy way to do this. No "tax shelters," no loopholes. Just one rate that everyone pays on income.

If we tried to enact this with the current system, it would indeed not be "fair." But if we changed the laws and trend of "tit for tat" in Washington then it would be completely fair.

[Matthitjah]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

So those blessed with higher incomes shouldn't begrudge paying tax on a larger proportion of there income as tax than those on lower incomes. Progressive taxarion is fairer than flat rate taxation.

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And my labour makes them rich. Paying tax isn't a punishment it ensbles the stable society in which their businesses operate and they live.

That's envy my dear friend and totally unbiblical;

Jas 1:9

Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted:

[~candice~]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

My wife and I don't even come close to $100,000 and our tax rate jumped from 5.6% last year to 9.9% this year. Last year we received a nice refund. This year we have to pay in a hefty amount. It is not just the rich they are targeting.

Wow. I paid 24% last year.

[Matthitjah]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

My wife and I don't even come close to $100,000 and our tax rate jumped from 5.6% last year to 9.9% this year. Last year we received a nice refund. This year we have to pay in a hefty amount. It is not just the rich they are targeting.

Wow. I paid 24% last year.

That's his Federal Rate. Add to that his State rate and other forms of taxation like gas taxes and his rate will probably exceed what you are paying.

[Fez]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

My wife and I don't even come close to $100,000 and our tax rate jumped from 5.6% last year to 9.9% this year. Last year we received a nice refund. This year we have to pay in a hefty amount. It is not just the rich they are targeting.

Wow. I paid 24% last year.

That's his Federal Rate. Add to that his State rate and other forms of taxation like gas taxes and his rate will probably exceed what you are paying.

I paid 35% plus 14% vat on everything except basic items that I purchased (which include bread and milk).Vat includes motor vehicles, and homes. I live in a country that employs a sliding scale system that tops out at about 45% for personal income tax, and is as high as 55% for business tax.

We are not bankrupt, we do not have massive debt, we have a banking system rated in the top 9 in the world, we have social security, medical which is nearly free to those who cannot afford it, etc.

We don't have easy credit (our banking regulations are among the toughest in the world), pay up to 11% interest on car loans and home loans, etc, and keep our cars for an average of 7 or so years.

In other words our banking system is based more on reality than fantasy (we weathered the financial collapse of 09 very well)

A sliding tax scale is not a scary thing, and I agree with Amor that it makes sense.

There is no such thing as a free lunch, and it is about time the world started realizing this...

[Guest shiloh357]

((((((((families earning more than $250,000))))))))

"Beware, and be on your guard against every form of greed"

~Jesus

So those blessed with higher incomes shouldn't begrudge paying tax on a larger proportion of there income as tax than those on lower incomes. Progressive taxarion is fairer than flat rate taxation.

A rich person signs your paycheck bud. Don't forget that. Why should the rich be punished for being rich? Most of them worked for it. What a communistic crock.

And my labour makes them rich. Paying tax isn't a punishment it ensbles the stable society in which their businesses operate and they live.

Yes it is punishing the rich for being rich. Telling someone that they have to pay a higher rate of taxes because they are rich is why people from socialist countries immigrate to the US. People prefer being paid what they are worth and being able to enjoy their prosperity without some governmet bean counter telling them what they are allowed and not allowed to have.