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I had brought up the subject of how inacurate the NIV bible was.

Below are but a few verses that totally water down or lose the meaning all together of the original KJV translation (1611). I put this in here (Spitual Warfare) because if you are going to battle in this type of ministry, trust me, Satan knows God's Word better than we do, and he twists it every chance he gets, thus watering down our power against the enemy.

As I stated in chat last evening, the NIV bible is published by Zandervan Publishing, which is owned by HarperCollins. HarperCollins publishes the Satanic Bible by Anton LeVey as well as probably half of the world's pornography. Translation...buy a new NIV Bible and a portion of your money goes to support porn and Satan, which is one in the same.

The old testament has it's own mistranslations as well, such as Satan being referred to as the Mourning Star when KJV refers to Jesus as The Mourning Star. The NIV also says David's brother killed Golliath, when we all know David did so. I bring this up for you to at least consider your choices more carefully when deciding on a bible for yourself or for someone else.

I realize these diferences I listed are quite lengthy, so just pick five or six and be done with it.

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Luke 2:33 KJV "And Joseph and his mother marveled at those things which were spoken of him." NIV "The child's father and mother marveled at what was said about him. " NIV changes "Joseph and his mother" to "the child's father and mother" making Jesus the son of Joseph and just a man. This also attacks His Deity. Joseph was not the father of Jesus. Jesus was conceived by the Holy Ghost. The NIV’s statement is heresy. The Catholics believe in the Virgin Birth of Christ, but they want to destroy the faith of the Protestants and get them to accept Catholics as "brothers in Christ," which they are not.

Luke 2:43 KJV "And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it."NIV "After the Feast was over, while his parents were returning home, the boy Jesus stayed behind in Jerusalem, but they were unaware of it." NIV changes "Joseph and his mother" to "his parents." What scriptures the Catholics have not corrupted to promote their doctrines, they have changed to destroy the foundation of the Christian (Protestant) faith, and its fundamental doctrines. "If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?" (Psalm 11: 3).

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Matthew 20: 22 KJV "But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able." NIV "'You don't know what you are asking,' Jesus said to them. 'Can you drink the cup I am going to drink?' 'We can," they answered.'" NIV leaves out "and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?". This is not a reference to water Baptism but the Baptism of suffering of the Lord Jesus Christ of which believers partake. [From the KJV]: 1Thessalonians 3: 4 "For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know."; 2Thessalonians.1: 5 "Which is a manifest token of the righteous judgment of God, that ye may be counted worthy of the kingdom of God, for which ye also suffer:"; 1Timothy 3:12 "Let the deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well."; James 5:10 "Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience."; 1Peter 2:20 "For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God."; 1Peter 3:14, 17 "But and if ye suffer for righteousness' sake, happy are ye: and be not afraid of their terror, neither be troubled;" "For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing."; 1Peter 4: 16, 19 "Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf." "Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator."

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God's formula for prayer, as revealed by the Lord Jesus Christ, is that we pray to the Father, in His (Jesus’) Name . The New Age Catholic Ecumenical Versions of the Bible teach prayer directly to the Son or to the Father, but not in the 'Name' of Jesus. This section will deal with this, as well as other problems concerning prayer in the NIV and other New Versions; such as leaving out "fervent prayer" and "fasting."

Matthew 23:14 KJV "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretense make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation." NIV leaves out the entire verse. Catholicism recites prayers (as the rosary) repetitively for long periods of time, and robs widows by asking money to pray them out of purgatory.

Mark 9:29 KJV "And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by nothing, but by prayer and fasting." NIV "He replied, "This kind can come out only by prayer." "

Mark 11:26 KJV "But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." NIV leaves out the entire verse. This is a scriptural principle; whatsoever a man sows, that shall he also reap. We have to be willing to forgive others, even as we are forgiven (Ephesians 4:32). If we don't obey the gospel and forgive others as we are commanded, then how can confessing ones sins to a priest (who is supposed to bring absolution) be of any help or value? Is a priest greater than God is? Is he allowed to do that which is contrary to the Word, and contrary to the way God deals with mankind?

Mark 13:33 KJV "Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is." NIV "Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come." NIV leaves out "pray". That is how we watch and stay ready. Remember Jesus in the Garden? Matthew 26:41 (KJV) "Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak." Without reference to prayer, this verse becomes meaningless.

Matthew 17: 21 KJV "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." NIV "see footnote of verse 17:20" This verse is completely omitted in the NIV. A footnote is given rejecting this verse.

Luke 11:2 KJV ".. When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth." NIV "He said to them, "When you pray, say: "'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come." NIV leaves out half the verse and entirely destroys its meaning. The reference to the Father being in Heaven, instead of on the earth, and to doing His will, is deleted. Why? Because the Catholics have replaced Him with the Pope, who is called their "Holy Father." He has taken the place of Christ (calling himself the "Vicar of Christ" and he has also taken the place of our Heavenly Father.

Luke 11:4 KJV "And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil." NIV "Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation.'" NIV leaves out "but deliver us from evil." Why don't they want you to be delivered from evil?

John 14:14 KJV "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it." NIV "You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." That is ridiculous, because you would be praying to Jesus, in Jesus' Name. That is not what is intended, as we can verify by comparing this with other verses.

John 16:23 KJV "And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you." The NIV totally changes the meaning: NIV "In that day you will no longer ask me anything. I tell you the truth, my Father will give you whatever you ask in my name." You’re not asking the Father in Jesus Name, but the Father is giving to you in Jesus Name, what you ask of Him. Yet you see a contradiction between this verse and John 14:14 above. Here the NIV admits, "you will no longer ask me anything", telling us that we ask the Father; yet in John 14:14 it told us to "ask Me for anything in my Name" by directly praying to Jesus.

Acts 10:30 KJV "And Cornelius said, Four days ago I was fasting until this hour; and at the ninth hour I prayed in my house, and behold, a man stood before me in bright clothing," NIV "Cornelius answered: "Four days ago I was in my house praying at this hour, at three in the afternoon. Suddenly a man in shining clothing stood before me" The reference to Cornelius' fasting is left out. Yet it is an important part of the story. Leaving it out changes it significantly. God has asked us to seek Him with prayer and fasting! It is a way in which we show God that we are serious and we are thereby diligently seeking Him with all our heart, to the point of foregoing food. Job 23:12 KJV "Neither have I gone back from the commandment of his lips; I have esteemed the words of his mouth more than my necessary food." Jesus fasted often. Many men of God fasted, in seeking the Will of the Father, and His Presence, or answers to great needs, or for their lives to be spared. The NIV changes the meaning of this verse in Job (not being partial to changing New Testament scripture only). Job 23:12 NIV "I have not departed from the commands of his lips; I have treasured the words of his mouth more than my daily bread." It says it was more important, but not necessarily that he was doing without his daily bread.

1Corinthians 7:5 KJV "Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency." NIV "Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control." Why don't they want you to fast as a part of your Christian walk with God? They know it is a means of spiritual growth and strength.

2Corinthians 6:5 KJV "In stripes, in imprisonments, in tumults, in labours, in watchings, in fastings;" NIV "in beatings, imprisonments and riots; in hard work, sleepless nights and hunger; " Where is 'watching' which is a reference to prayer, and fasting? Again we see it in 2Corinthians 11:27 KJV "In weariness and painfulness, in watchings often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness." NIV "I have labored and toiled and have often gone without sleep; I have known hunger and thirst and have often gone without food; I have been cold and naked."

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1 John 5:7 KJV "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." NIV "For there are three that testify:" NIV leaves out the last 15 words of the verse, and skips to v.8, leaving out the first part of it also, and mentioning the three witnesses on earth without saying where these witnesses are, and mentioning none in heaven. This is an attack on the Trinity, a key doctrine for the true Christian. Most cultic religions reject this doctrine. 1 John 5:8 KJV "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." NIV "the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." When you put the two verses together the totality of the NIV is: 1John 5:7 - 1John 5:8 "For there are three that testify: the Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement." That is not similar in meaning in any way to the original. All the underlined parts above are left out. This is an abomination.

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Matthew 5: 44 KJV "But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you." NIV "But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you." NIV leaves out most of the verse: "bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them that despitefully use you." Catholics believe in killing, and in destroying all those who don't believe in their doctrines. Look at the history of the Catholic inquisitions, and their religious wars. You don't have to go back as far as the Catholic Crusades (done in the name of the Pope and Christianity) or as far back as the 11th century to see the killings done in the name of the Church. The Catholics murdered Jews and tried to destroy them and take over Jerusalem for themselves. During the middle ages, they put to death and burned at the stake as heretics, men who tried to bring the Word of God to the people in their own language: men such as John Huss, William Tyndale, John Hooper, John Wycliff, Dr. Nicolas Ridley, Dr. Roland Taylor, Hugh Latimer, and many others. They would have certainly killed Dr. Martin Luther if they could have. During the mid 20th century the Catholics held inquisitions and persecuted many people during World War II in Poland, Yugoslavia, and other countries. The Catholic Church backed and had concordats with Hitler, and Mussolini, and was the mother of both the Communist Party and the Nazi Party. The Jesuit priests were the power and guidance behind it all. A Jesuit priest named Staempfle wrote "Mein Kampf" for Hitler, and the Jesuits worked closely with Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Lenin and Stalin, and supported them. The Catholic Church helped bankroll the revolution that put Russia in the hands of the Communists. The Catholic Church was behind the murders of the more than 6 million Jews by the Nazi's; a repeat performance of their prior efforts to destroy all Jews from the face of the earth.

Matthew 17: 21 KJV "Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." NIV leaves out the entire verse. The verse is in the middle of a teaching on deliverance from demon possession.

Matthew 19: 9 KJV "And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery, and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." NIV "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery." NIV changes the meaning entirely by changing the word "fornication" to "marital unfaithfulness." Marital unfaithfulness does not have the same meaning as fornication. The NIV also leaves out the second part of the verse: "and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery." This verse is crucial to our living an undefiled life. Most people in the church fall into sexual sins, and this is what will take them to hell. Sexual sins are one of the biggest problems in the church today. Divorce and remarriage is now as prevalent inside the church as it is outside the church. This was not the case from the time of Christ until approximately the last 20 years. The same holds true for immorality and fornication. Fornication is sexual relations before marriage, and marital unfaithfulness (adultery) is illicit sexual relationships after marriage.

Matthew 20: 16 KJV "So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen." NIV "So the last will be first, and the first will be last." NIV leaves out "for many be called, but few chosen." This has to do with our salvation. Many are called to salvation; the ones chosen are those who answer the call and obey the gospel.

Matthew 28: 9 KJV "And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him." NIV "Suddenly Jesus met them. "Greetings," he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshipped him." NIV leaves out "And as they went to tell his disciples." Matthew had just told of what happened at the sepulcher, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary were spoken to by an angel, and told that Jesus was risen, and to go tell His disciples. Then, as they went to tell the disciples, Jesus appeared to them. Why would their obedience to the command of the angel be left out?

Mark 7:8 KJV "For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do." NIV "You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to the traditions of men." NIV leaves out the example of how they held to the traditions of men rather than the Word of God. Catholics today hold fast to their traditions.

Mark 7:16 KJV "If any man have ears to hear, let him hear." NIV leaves out the entire verse. Jesus had been talking about those who lived by their traditions, which they exalted above the Word of God, making the Word of no effect or value in their lives.

Mark 9:44 and 46 KJV "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched." This is a reference to hell. NIV leaves out both entire verses.

Mark 9:49 KJV "For every one shall be salted with fire, and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt." NIV "Everyone will be salted with fire." NIV leaves out "and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt." This verse refers to spiritual refining. All of us have to go through the fire. 1 Peter 1:7 (KJV) "That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:" 1 Peter 4:12 (KJV) "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:" Malachi 3:1-3 (KJV) "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap: 3 And he shall sit as a refiner and purifier of silver: and he shall purify the sons of Levi, and purge them as gold and silver, that they may offer unto the LORD an offering in righteousness."

Mark 10:21 KJV "Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me." NIV "Jesus looked at him and loved him. 'One thing you lack,' he said. 'Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.'" NIV leaves out "take up the cross," Taking up the cross is taking the will of God, and denying your own will. The Catholic Church only recognizes the will of the Pope. Your cross is where your will and the will of God come into conflict, and you must lay aside your will, and die to it, to take up and do the will of God. That's Luke 9:23 (KJV) "And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me." The example of this is Jesus in the Garden, when He had to lay aside His will to do that of the Father. Matthew 26:39 (KJV) "And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt."You cannot be a Christian without doing the will of God for your life. 1 John 2:17 (KJV) "And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever." 1 Peter 4:1-2 (KJV) "Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin; 2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God." There are many verses on this subject.

Mark 12:30 KJV "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment." NIV "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.'" NIV leaves out "this is the first commandment." A Catholic's first love and loyalty is to his church and his Pope.

Philippians 3: 16 KJV "Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing." NIV "Only let us live up to what we have already attained." NIV leaves out the last two phrases. They are an important part of the teaching of this portion of scripture.

1 Timothy 4:12 KJV ". .Be thou an example of the believers, in word, in conversation, in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity." NIV "Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity." NIV leaves out "in spirit." Charity and love are the same word from the Greek.

1 Timothy 6: 5 KJV "Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself." NIV "and constant friction between men of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain." NIV leaves out "from such withdraw thyself," which has to do with our separation from such people. The Catholic Church is responsible for the Ecumenical movement (a word they coined), which to them means "a return to Roman Catholicism." They do not believe in separation from the world. The Catholic Church compromises with all the other heathen ways, wherever they have gone. The Catholic Church has mixed with voodoo, with Santaria, and many other forms of spiritism, witchcraft and idol worship. You can be a Catholic and practice any form of idolatry, or witchcraft. You can be anything from a witch doctor practicing voodoo, or a fortuneteller, palm reader, necromancer, tarot card reader, crystal ball reader, etc. Most all such today are Catholics, such as Jeanne Dixon. They practice all manner of witchcraft that God calls an abomination.

Hebrews 10:34 KJV "For ye had compassion on me in my bonds, and took joyfully the spoiling of your goods, knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance." NIV "You sympathized with those in prison and joyfully accepted the confiscation of your property, because you knew that you yourselves had better and lasting possessions." NIV leaves out "in heaven," making the verse read as earthly possessions and destroying the meaning. The Catholic Church is the richest entity on the face of the earth, holding billions in property, stock, gold and cash.

1 Peter 4: 14 KJV "If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part He is evil spoken of, but on your part He is glorified." NIV "If you are insulted because of the name of Christ, you are blessed, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests on you." NIV leaves out the last 15 words, changing the meaning of the passage.

2 Peter 2:17 KJV "These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever." NIV "These men are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them." NIV leaves out "for ever." Catholic's are taught to believe that when they die, they go to purgatory; instead of heaven or hell. They further believe that they can escape from purgatory by the prayers of priests. Their surviving relatives buy them out of purgatory, by paying for the priests to pray them out. It's one of the greatest sources of money of the Catholic Church: poor Catholics who have been lied too, giving what little they have but can't afford, in a false hope of making life easier for one who has died. There is nothing you can do to help or hurt the one who is passed into eternity. It's simply: Hebrews 9:27 (KJV) "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" Period. Then it's eternity, either in the presence of Jesus or in the presence of Satan.

Revelation 16:17 KJV "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done." NIV "The seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and out of the temple came a loud voice from the throne, saying, 'It is done!'" NIV leaves out "of heaven." Where is this temple and throne of which the verse speaks?

Revelation 20:12 KJV "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God. ..." NIV "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne,...." NIV changes "God" to "the throne." Whose throne is it?

Revelation 21:24 KJV "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it:. ." NIV "The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their splendor into it." NIV leaves out "of them which are saved." Everyone will not have entrance into heaven and the kingdom of God. Christians do not believe in the "Fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of man" as the Catholic Church teaches. That is a doctrine of devils. That is humanism and Ecumenicalism.

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Matthew 9:13b KJV "for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." NIV "For I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." NIV leaves out "to repentance." So what are they called to?

Matthew 18:11 KJV "For the Son of man is come to save that which was lost." NIV leaves out the entire verse. This degrades His place as Savior, the purpose for which He came into the world.

Mark 2:17 KJV "When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." NIV "On hearing this, Jesus said to them, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." NIV leaves out "to repentance" as in Matthew 9:13. Without this reference, what is the sinner called to?

Mark 10:24 KJV "Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God!" NIV totally changes the meaning, saying "Children, how hard it is to enter the kingdom of God!" The Catholic church amasses riches, and teaches that men have to be prayed out of purgatory to get into heaven, a primary means for the church to get money from it's believers. So they leave out "for them that trust in riches" and that allows them to use the verse to serve their own purposes.

Mark 15:28 KJV "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors." NIV leaves out the entire verse.

Luke 9:55 KJV "But he turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of." NIV "But Jesus turned and rebuked them," NIV leaves out "Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of." (v.56) KJV "For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village." NIV "and they went to another village." NIV leaves out this entire underlined section referring to Jesus as the Son of Man and Savior. The change in the meaning of these two verses is unmistakable. They are not unintentional omissions, or accidents. Look at the two verses together: Luke 9:55-56 KJV "But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village." NIV "But Jesus turned and rebuked them, and they went to another village."

Luke 17:36 KJV "Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." NIV leaves out the entire verse.

Romans 1:16 KJV "For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ. ..." NIV "I am not ashamed of the gospel," NIV leaves out "of Christ." So whose gospel is it? What is the gospel without Christ? And what power to save is there in a gospel without Christ?

Romans 8:1 KJV "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." NIV "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, " NIV leaves out "who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit" It changes the entire meaning of the verse and leaves no requirement or prerequisite to being free from condemnation. In truth, the verse tells us that if you do walk in the flesh, then there is condemnation. They have taken that out, so that you won't know the truth.

Romans 10:15b KJV "How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things." NIV "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!" NIV leaves out "that preach the gospel of peace." So what is the "good news" if it is not "the gospel of peace." The gospel of Jesus will bring peace to the one who puts their faith and trust in the finished works of Calvary, and submits to His Lordship, for he is "the Prince of Peace" (Isaiah 9:6).

Romans 11:6 KJV "And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." NIV "And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace." NIV leaves out "But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." It's talking about the remnant according to the election of grace (v.5) and the difference between grace and works. In verse five, the NIV leaves out "election of grace." Catholicism believes in salvation by works and not by grace through faith; that was what started the reformation. This was Martin Luther's key revelation.

Romans 15:29 KJV "And I am sure that, when I come unto you, I shall come in the fulness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ." NIV "I know that when I come to you, I will come in the full measure of the blessing of Christ." NIV leaves out "of the gospel." The blessings we receive come only because of Calvary, and our faith in what Jesus accomplished for us on the Cross. The blessings of God only come to those who are obedient to "the gospel." All others are brought under God's judgment. 2 Thessalonians 1:8 (KJV) "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:" Peter 4:17 (KJV) "For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?" What is Christ to us without the gospel; His death, burial and resurrection, that we might be redeemed from our sins? 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 (KJV) "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

1 Corinthians 11:24 KJV "...Take eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: do this in remembrance of me." NIV "... 'This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.'" NIV leaves out "take eat" and "broken". This is the core of communion and its meaning is changed by the NIV. Catholic's don't "break" the bread (representative of the body of the Lord Jesus), but eat what they say is the very body, soul, and blood of Christ transformed into their wafer.

Galations 3: 17 KJV "And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect." NIV "What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise." NIV leaves out "in Christ." There is no Covenant without Christ. The New Testament or New Covenant is based on the shed blood of Jesus.

Galatians 4:7 KJV "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ." NIV "So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir." NIV leaves out the most significant and important part, "through Christ." We have no other means of salvation. Acts 4:12 (KJV) "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved." This passage tells us (v.10) that His Name is "Jesus Christ of Nazareth." There is salvation through or by no other name, but they leave out that part, and teach the brotherhood of all men and the Fatherhood of God, such that all men are "sons of God," which is not true.

Galatians 6:15 KJV "For in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature." NIV "Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything; what counts is a new creation." NIV leaves out "For in Christ Jesus." Again, Christ is what makes the difference. They keep leaving Him out.

Ephesians 5:30 KJV "For we are members of His body, of His flesh, and of His bones." NIV "for we are members of his body." NIV leaves out "of His flesh, and of His bones."

Colossians1: 14 KJV "In whom we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins." NIV "in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." NIV leaves out "through His blood." So, what is the source or means of our redemption? Where is the blood? Does not Hebrews 9:22 say, "without shedding of blood is no remission" (forgiveness); that verse is in the NIV. Catholic's do away with the finished works of Calvary, and crucify Him afresh, again and again. That's what the Mass is all about. They keep Jesus on the Cross; they serve a dead Jesus, not a risen Savior.

Colossians 2: 11 KJV "In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ." NIV "In him you were also circumcised, in the putting off of the sinful nature, not with a circumcision done by the hands of men but with the circumcision done by Christ," NIV leaves out "of the sins," which changes the whole meaning. Salvation involves a repentance of sin, and turning from past sins, to walk in the newness of life of the Lord Jesus Christ: Romans 6:4-6 (KJV) "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin." Romans 6:10-12 (KJV) "For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof." You can't keep walking in sin and the old sinful nature, and walk in the life of Christ. Either you live and walk in the flesh or in the Spirit, but not both. 2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV) "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." Romans 6:22-23 (KJV) "But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord." There is much on this subject. There is simply no salvation without a repentance of and turning from sin and a life of sin.

Colossians 3: 6 KJV "For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience." NIV "Because of these, the wrath of God is coming." NIV leaves out "on the children of disobedience." Catholic's are telling the world, don't look at my sins, it's none of your business; wrongly applying scripture to cover their sins; as, "judge not, least ye be judged," and "love covers a multitude of sins." The way that love covers sin is through the blood of Christ by the gospel of His death, burial and resurrection. James 5:20 (KJV) "Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins." This is so the wickedness of their priests can be covered and passed over as is they do not exist. Because people are coming out of the closet and telling the truth and suing the Catholic Church, they are for the first time being forced to face up to the facts that many of their priests are and have been fornicators and child molesters, even though they are supposed to be holy men who live a life of abstinence from sexual relations. Until recently, a priest charged with such misconduct, was simply moved to a new parish, where he continued his ways of sin. There are numerous books written by priests, who have come to Christ and are telling the truth about what goes on in the Catholic Church; and about the confessions of other priests and much higher officials in the Catholic Church that they themselves heard.

Hebrews 1:3 KJV "Who being the brightness of His glory, and the express image of His person, and upholding all things by the word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high." NIV "The Son is the radiance of God's glory and the exact representation of his being, sustaining all things by his powerful word. After he had provided purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty in heaven." NIV leaves out "by Himself." So we wouldn't know how he purged our sins. He "who his own self bare our sins in His own body on the tree" (1 Peter 2: 24). Catholic's don't want us to know that our salvation totally and completely depends upon Jesus, and His shed blood.

1 Peter 4: 1 KJV "Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;" NIV "Therefore, since Christ suffered in his body, arm yourselves also with the same attitude, because he who has suffered in his body is done with sin." NIV leaves out "for us," the reason why Christ suffered and went to the Cross. This verse in the NIV makes it as if Christ suffered for His own sins, and we know that He was without sin.

James 5:16 KJV "Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed." NIV "Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective." NIV changes "faults" to "sins" because the Catholic's believe in confessions to priests, instead of to God; God alone has power to forgive sins.

1 John 4:3 KJV "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is the spirit of antichrist.." NIV "but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." NIV leaves out "Christ is come in the flesh." This very translation makes those translators guilty of being of the spirit of antichrist. What this verse and passage are really referring to, is the one who confesses that Jesus Christ is come into their lives, and is living in them, and they are one with Him. That means they confess Him as their personal Lord. 1 Corinthians 6:17 (KJV) "But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit." You are one in spirit with Him. John 14:23 (KJV) "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 (KJV) "What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's." 2 Corinthians 6:16 (KJV) "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

Revelation 14:5 KJV "And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God." NIV "No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless." NIV leaves out "before the throne of God." It is of no value to be blameless before man and not before God.

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Mark 16:9-20 KJV "Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils. 10 And she went and told them that had been with him, as they mourned and wept. 11 And they, when they had heard that he was alive, and had been seen of her, believed not. 12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country. 13 And they went and told it unto the residue: neither believed they them. 14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen. 15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. 17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; 18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God. 20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen." Mark 16:9 NIV "The most reliable early manuscripts and other ancient witnesses do not have Mark 16:9-20. When Jesus rose early on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had driven seven demons." It is not necessary to copy the rest of the verses of Mark 16 from the NIV Bible, for they have already told us that they don't believe it is part of the Holy Writ. Who are these ancient witnesses referred too? Of what reliable manuscripts are they speaking that leave out this section of Scripture, versus the unreliable ones that contain it? An attack and accusation without any proof or source to back up their claim. WHY? Catholic's today have a new doctrine, that of the bodily assumption of Mary. She has taken the place of Christ, she is without original sin, she is their mediatrix whom they pray to for mercy, and they believe she was bodily (without death) ascended into glory. Mary is also called the "Mother of God" and many other exalting titles. The Catholic Church began praying to Mary about 600 AD; as well as other dead "saints." The Catholic Church tells their people that Jesus is a judge that is harsh and judgmental, and that without Mary's intercession on their behalf, no one would receive any mercy from Him, and no one is allowed to plead their own case before Him. Mary is the one who stands as mediatrix between man and Jesus, begging her son to forgive and have pity on those Roman Catholics who pray to her. She is seen as co-savior and co-redeemer; in fact she is promoted above Christ.

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Matthew 25:13 KJV "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." NIV "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." NIV leaves out "wherein the Son of man cometh," changing the whole meaning of the verse.

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Matthew 27: 35 KJV "And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots." NIV "When they had crucified him, they divided up his clothes by casting lots." NIV leaves out "that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots." They are undermining the fulfilled prophecy of the Old Testament, which supports the validity of it being from God. Many today do not accept or use the O.T. in their study of the Word of God. They say we are not under the O.T., and they only read the Psalms and Proverbs out of the Old Testament.

Mark 13:14 KJV "But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:" NIV "When you see 'the abomination that causes desolation' standing where it does not belong--let the reader understand--then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains." NIV leaves out "spoken of by Daniel the prophet." The NIV takes out the references to the New Testament fulfillments of Old Testament prophecy.

Mark 15:28 KJV "And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors." NIV leaves out the entire verse.

Luke 4:4 KJV "Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God." NIV "Jesus answered, 'It is written: "Man does not live on bread alone."'" NIV leaves out "but by every word of God." So then, what is man supposed to live by other than bread? It doesn't tell you. Maybe they want us to guess what it is? Would God make such an omission, such an obvious blunder in this verse?

Luke 9:54 KJV "And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?" NIV "When the disciples James and John saw this, they asked, 'Lord, do you want us to call fire down from heaven to destroy them?'" NIV leaves out the reference "even as Elijah did."

Galations 3: 1 KJV "O Foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?" NIV "You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified." NIV leaves out "that ye should not obey the truth." That's the central point of the verse, without which the meaning is lost. How were they bewitched? What was the result and purpose of the enemy in this thing?

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im a kjvp but well the kjv is wrong as well. lol i have compared the masoretic txt from the hebrews in family written in kjv english to the kjv i have. slight differences but some of the hebrews way of saying this just better.

no commentary of course. the jews have their bias issues and i see them in their commentaries on messianic prophecies we know to be fulfilled. ie zecheriah 9

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Good grief, here we go again ... :swordfightsmiles:

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Just Read It

Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee. Psalms 119:11

And Share It

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works. 2 Timothy 3:15-17

With Thanksgiving To Jehovah And To His Jews

What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. Romans 3:1-2

And Battereth Not The Flock

To speak evil of no man, to be no brawlers, but gentle, shewing all meekness unto all men. Titus 3:2

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Hi, Upnorth -

I hope you do realize that 99% of the people reading the board don't have the time or the patience to read that much information. Just so that you know several responses, or a significant lack of responses, will reflect this.

Personally, my belief is similar to Jason's in that no translation is perfect; even the KJV has errors. For in depth studying of Scripture, it is always best to compare translations and do what you can to research the original word meanings (which I've discovered is not an easy task! Hebrew is a bit complicated in that regard).

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Hi, Upnorth -

I hope you do realize that 99% of the people reading the board don't have the time or the patience to read that much information. Just so that you know several responses, or a significant lack of responses, will reflect this.

Personally, my belief is similar to Jason's in that no translation is perfect; even the KJV has errors. For in depth studying of Scripture, it is always best to compare translations and do what you can to research the original word meanings (which I've discovered is not an easy task! Hebrew is a bit complicated in that regard).

What errors does the KJV have that you specifally are talking about?

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A Comparison Between the King James (KJV) &

The New International (NIV) Bibles

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This is a scripture comparison of NIV and KJV passages, showing that the NIV was not properly translated. This is a sample of the many verses in the NIV that changes the Word that deals with the virgin birth of Christ, the deity of Christ, the infallibility of the Bible, salvation by faith, the Trinity, and many other areas of importance to the Christian Faith. Where the NIV doesn't altogether do away with a subject, such as the deity of Christ, it attempts to downgrade it. Many verses are completely eliminated. Verses have been changed in every book of the Bible in the NIV, and this is just a small sample of those verses. The NIV along with numerous other modern translations, is a product of Catholicism, endeavoring to corrupt the Bible of Fundamental Bible Believing Protestants, and to insert their own corrupt doctrines.
Because of the many issues with the NIV we call it the
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Matthew 6:13 KJV "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen." NIV "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one." The NIV leaves out "For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory for ever. Amen." Everything pertaining to His Kingdom and Deity is left out."

Matthew 6:33 KJV "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and His righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you." NIV "But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well." "The kingdom of God" is changed to "his kingdom."

Matthew 8:29 KJV "And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" NIV "'What do you want with us, Son of God?' they shouted. '"Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?'" NIV leaves out "Jesus, thou", degrading the power of the verse concerning His deity.

Matthew 9:18 KJV ". . there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him. ." NIV "While he was saying this, a ruler came and knelt before him and said, 'My daughter has just died. But come and put your hand on her, and she will live.'" NIV changes "worshipped" to "knelt before." Men kneel before their own kings and queens, but they do not worship them.

Matthew 13:51 KJV "Jesus saith unto them, Have ye understood all these things? They say unto Him, Yea, Lord." NIV "'Have you understood all these things?' Jesus asked. 'Yes,' they replied." NIV leaves out "Lord," again, leaving out His Lordship.

Matthew 16:20 KJV "Then charged He his disciples that they should tell no man that He was Jesus the Christ." NIV "Then he warned his disciples not to tell anyone that he was the Christ." NIV leaves out "Jesus," as it does in numerous verses.

Matthew 20:20 KJV "Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him. ." NIV "Then the mother of Zebedee's sons came to Jesus with her sons and, kneeling down, asked a favor of him." NIV again changes "worshipping" to "kneeling down."

Matthew 25:13 KJV "Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh." NIV "Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour." NIV leaves out "wherein the Son of man cometh."

Mark 1:14 KJV "Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God." NIV "After John was put in prison, Jesus went into Galilee, proclaiming the good news of God." NIV says "the good news" and leaves out "the gospel of the kingdom of God."

Mark 5:6 KJV "But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him," NIV "When he saw Jesus from a distance, he ran and fell on his knees in front of him." NIV changes "worshipped" to "fell on his knees."

Mark 9:24 KJV "And straightway the father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord, I believe; help thou mine unbelief." NIV "Immediately the boy's father exclaimed, 'I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!'" NIV leaves out the reference to Jesus as "Lord."

Mark 11:10 KJV "Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest." NIV "'Blessed is the coming kingdom of our father David!' 'Hosanna in the highest!'" NIV changes his present kingdom to a future one saying "Blessed is the coming kingdom" and strips Jesus of His present Lordship.

Luke 4:8 KJV "And Jesus said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord they God, and him only shalt thou serve." NIV "Jesus answered, 'It is written: 'Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.'" NIV leaves out "Get thee behind me Satan."

Luke 4:41 KJV "And devils also came out of many, crying out, and saying, Thou art Christ the Son of God ..." NIV "Moreover, demons came out of many people, shouting, 'You are the Son of God! ...'" NIV leaves out the reference to Jesus by the devils that He was "Christ."

Luke 7:31 KJV "And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like?" NIV "To what, then, can I compare the people of this generation? What are they like?" NIV leaves out "And the Lord said."

Luke 11:2 KJV "And he said unto them, When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth." NIV "He said to them, "When you pray, say: "'Father, hallowed be your name, your kingdom come." He isn't "Our Father" but just Father, and He isn't in Heaven, because that tells you something of who He is and points to Him as the Heavenly Father, so both references to heaven are removed. He must be here on earth. The reason for this is that the New Agers and Catholics believe in the "universal fatherhood" of God. My Father or Our Father becomes "The Father." This can be seen in some of the verses below: John 10:30,32; 14:28, etc. He is Father to all, and with it is the "Brotherhood of man." Then what happened to doing His will? Most people today want to do their own will, and justify it, and say that is the way it is supposed to be. But that is not the way it is supposed to be. We are to say "If the Lord will. . ." James 4:15 KJV "For that ye ought to say, If the Lord will, we shall live, and do this, or that." Satan wants you to do his will, and not the Father's.

Luke 11:4 KJV "And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil." NIV "Forgive us our sins, for we also forgive everyone who sins against us. And lead us not into temptation. '" Even Satanists and Eastern Mysticists desire cleansing from sin, and Satan desires to masquerade as the sin forgiver and destroyer. Example: From the Complete Book of Magic and Witchcraft, part of a Satanic ritual states: "Grant that I may be cleansed by this water from all my sins." So Satan doesn't take this part out. Think about it: why don't they want you to be delivered from evil? This is all part of the conspiracy. First they deny the existence of Satan. They say that Satan is not a person, but merely a "power of evil." Then they assert that Lucifer and the Devil are separate and distinct entities. Satan tries to hide his real identity, and hide behind other names. New Agers say that Satan is a figment of Christians’ imaginations. They point out that Lucifer means 'day-star' or 'light giver' and say that Lucifer is the brightest of God's angels. Albert Pike said, "Lucifer is God." That's the next step in the deception: claiming that Lucifer is a good angel or even God or Christ Himself.

Luke 23:42 KJV "And he (the thief) said unto Jesus ‘Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.’" NIV "Then he said, 'Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.'" NIV leaves out "Lord," doing away with His Deity.

John 10:30 KJV "I and my Father are one." NIV "I and the Father are one." Again, Satan is trying to do away with the Heavenly Father, and set himself on the throne. These are some more of the verses doing away with the Personal "My" or "Our" Father for an impersonal one, as well as changing "Our Lord" and "My Lord" to "the Lord" in referring to Jesus. John 10:32 KJV "Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?" NIV "but Jesus said to them, "I have shown you many great miracles from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?" " John 14:28 KJV "Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you, If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I." NIV "You heard me say, 'I am going away and I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I." This is just a sample of many such verses. Galatians 1:3 KJV "Grace be to you, and peace, from God the Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ," NIV "Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ," 2Thessalonians 1:2 KJV "Grace unto you, and peace, from God our Father. . ." NIV "Grace and peace to you from God the Father. . ." 1Timothy 1:2 KJV "Unto Timothy, my own son in the faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God our Father. . ." NIV "To Timothy my true son in the faith: Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father. . ."

Acts 2:30 KJV "Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;" NIV "But he was a prophet and knew that God had promised him on oath that he would place one of his descendants on his throne." NIV replaces "Christ" with "one of his descendants," which could be anybody.

Acts 8:37 KJV "And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." NIV leaves out the entire verse.

Romans 14:10 KJV ". .for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ." NIV "For we will all stand before God's judgment seat." NIV does away with Christ and His authority in judgment.

Romans 16:24 KJV "The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen." NIV leaves out the entire verse.

Galatians 6:17 KJV "From henceforth let no man trouble me: for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus." NIV "Finally, let no one cause me trouble, for I bear on my body the marks of Jesus. " NIV leaves out "Lord." They don't mind calling Jesus Savior, but they don't want you to surrender your life to His Lordship. They want you to think that you can accept and receive Jesus as your Savior for "fire insurance," to keep you from hell, without receiving Him as your Lord.

Ephesians3: 9 KJV ". .which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ." NIV "and to make plain to everyone the administration of this mystery, which for ages past was kept hidden in God, who created all things." NIV leaves out "by Jesus Christ" to undermine His Deity.

Ephesians 3:14 KJV "For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ." NIV "For this reason I kneel before the Father. . . " The NIV leaves out "of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Colossians 1:2 KJV "To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." NIV "To the holy and faithful brothers in Christ at Colosse: Grace and peace to you from God our Father." NIV leaves out "and the Lord Jesus Christ."

1 Timothy 2:7 KJV "Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in Christ, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity." NIV "And for this purpose I was appointed a herald and an apostle--I am telling the truth, I am not lying--and a teacher of the true faith to the Gentiles." NIV leaves out "in Christ."

1 Timothy 3:16 KJV "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." NIV "Beyond all question, the mystery of godliness is great: He appeared in a body, was vindicated by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was preached among the nations, was believed on in the world, was taken up in glory." NIV reduces "God" to "He" and changes "manifest in the flesh" to "appeared in a body." That doesn't say the same thing. That is no different from the mount of transfiguration when Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus. They appeared like men, with bodies.

2 Timothy 4:22 KJV "The Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Grace be with you. Amen." NIV "The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you." NIV leaves out "Jesus Christ." So whom is the reference speaking of that is Lord? They don't want Jesus to get the honor and glory due Him, nor for you to serve Him as your Lord and Savior.

Hebrews 2:7 KJV "Thou made Him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst Him with glory and honour, and didst set Him over the works of thy hands." NIV "You made him a little lower than the angels; you crowned him with glory and honor" NIV leaves out "and didst set Him over the works of thy hands." Why do they continually leave out the most significant parts of these verses that show Jesus to be both Lord and Savior?

1 John 5:13 KJV "These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God." NIV "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life." NIV leaves out the last 13 words of the verse (underlined) that speak of putting our faith in Christ..

Revelation 1:11 KJV "Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and What thou seest, write in a book and send it to the seven churches which are in Asia..." NIV "which said: "Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches:..." NIV leaves out "I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last." This is a reference to Christ, and who He is, as the eternal God, the only begotten of the Father, and the firstborn from the dead.

Revelation 5:14b KJV "... And the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped Him that liveth for ever and ever." NIV "... and the elders fell down and worshipped." NIV leaves out "Him that liveth for ever and ever." Who were the elders worshipping? The lamb who was slain, the one who said in Revelation 2:8 "These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive."

These are examples from the many verses in the New Testament in which references to Christ as Lord, as God, as Creator, are watered down or entirely deleted. The translators of the NIV are against Christ. They are truly Anti-Christ. They do not want you to believe in Him nor put your faith in Him as your personal Lord and Savior, and they do not want you to serve Him and obey Him. If they can get you to believe in a historical Jesus, whom you do not put your faith in and trust in for forgiveness of your sins, and without bowing your life and heart to worship and serve Him as Lord, they will have succeeded in keeping you from Heaven and will help send you to Hell for all eternity! The following sections will further prove this point. Again, all sections are only a representation of the multitude of scriptures that have been changed by the translators of the NIV.

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Good grief, here we go again ... :swordfightsmiles:

What do you mean by that?

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