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Petitions signed by hundreds of thousands of Americans seeking permission for their states to peacefully secede from the union have now been filed for all 50 states on the White House website.

Texas is in the lead as of now with 99,000.

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What does DC do? Its all by itself now?

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Scripture does tell us that a house divided will not stand. This is the most divisive election I have seen in my life. Our nation is so divided, a calm wind could easily blow it over, which is what is happening.

We are in the last days and many of us have blown the trumpet trying to get the attention of others. Politics is how the country runs. We are what holds the country together. If we allow our political differences to continue to cause a wider divide, we are no longer "We the People" but "We the Political Party".

It is time to accept that there has been a victor and move on trying to resolve the issues that divide instead of acting like school kids, taking sides and facing each other off in a fight. If this fight continues, nobody who is a citizen of the US will win.

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Don't know what will happen with this. We just have to wait for Obamas' response.

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Considering the number of signatures compared to the number of citizens in each state.....it miniscule. It's time Americans grow up and move on instead of sulking and acting like children. It gets worse with each election. Don't like the results of an election? Then work to change the reasons the GOP can't win any more.

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Personally, I am tired of just two major parties dominating the political agenda. Yet, the others are so far off what is considered as "normal thinking" they don't' have a chance. I don't think there will ever be a white knight for our government before Christ returns, but it would be nice to drop the political affiliations when it comes to voting and vote for what the person will do or try to do without the us and them attitude.

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Personally, I am tired of just two major parties dominating the political agenda. Yet, the others are so far off what is considered as "normal thinking" they don't' have a chance. I don't think there will ever be a white knight for our government before Christ returns, but it would be nice to drop the political affiliations when it comes to voting and vote for what the person will do or try to do without the us and them attitude.

Political parties - That would be a good topic for it's own thread, maybe.

I think the reason they form is the human desire to create alliances - in any legislative body, there is an "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" mentality. That seems to morph into general alliances, and those alliances become political parties.

One question I have (which I have my own thoughts on, but I'd like to hear others' opinions) - why does the US seem to be unique in the world in that it has only 2 viable political parties - whereas other countries have multiple parties?

Personally, I don't believe parties in and of themselves are "bad" - at worst, they are probably a necessary evil.

What is negative however, IMHO, is the partisan attitudes we see exhibited by some here in the US (I can only speak to the attitudes I see here - I don't know to what extent it exists in other countries).

I've seen cases where partisanship seems to replace thought. With some, political party becomes their religion.

That is sad.

Blessings!

-Ed

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Personally, I am tired of just two major parties dominating the political agenda. Yet, the others are so far off what is considered as "normal thinking" they don't' have a chance. I don't think there will ever be a white knight for our government before Christ returns, but it would be nice to drop the political affiliations when it comes to voting and vote for what the person will do or try to do without the us and them attitude.

Political parties - That would be a good topic for it's own thread, maybe.

I think the reason they form is the human desire to create alliances - in any legislative body, there is an "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" mentality. That seems to morph into general alliances, and those alliances become political parties.

One question I have (which I have my own thoughts on, but I'd like to hear others' opinions) - why does the US seem to be unique in the world in that it has only 2 viable political parties - whereas other countries have multiple parties?

Personally, I don't believe parties in and of themselves are "bad" - at worst, they are probably a necessary evil.

What is negative however, IMHO, is the partisan attitudes we see exhibited by some here in the US (I can only speak to the attitudes I see here - I don't know to what extent it exists in other countries).

I've seen cases where partisanship seems to replace thought. With some, political party becomes their religion.

That is sad.

Blessings!

-Ed

I have seen that very thing myself, someone insists that HIS/HER party is founded on Christian values and someone else believes theirs to be. Both are wrong; there is NO Christian party in our country, in fact the two parties we are stuck with are so vile that to call them Christian ANYTHING is flat out disgusting.

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Personally, I am tired of just two major parties dominating the political agenda. Yet, the others are so far off what is considered as "normal thinking" they don't' have a chance. I don't think there will ever be a white knight for our government before Christ returns, but it would be nice to drop the political affiliations when it comes to voting and vote for what the person will do or try to do without the us and them attitude.

Political parties - That would be a good topic for it's own thread, maybe.

I think the reason they form is the human desire to create alliances - in any legislative body, there is an "I'll scratch your back if you scratch mine" mentality. That seems to morph into general alliances, and those alliances become political parties.

One question I have (which I have my own thoughts on, but I'd like to hear others' opinions) - why does the US seem to be unique in the world in that it has only 2 viable political parties - whereas other countries have multiple parties?

Personally, I don't believe parties in and of themselves are "bad" - at worst, they are probably a necessary evil.

What is negative however, IMHO, is the partisan attitudes we see exhibited by some here in the US (I can only speak to the attitudes I see here - I don't know to what extent it exists in other countries).

I've seen cases where partisanship seems to replace thought. With some, political party becomes their religion.

That is sad.

Blessings!

-Ed

Parties are necessary, what we need is a real, viable 3rd party.

with the current two party system we have two parties that talk a really good game but when given the power to do things they are pretty much the same. There is no way to hold them accountable because even if we vote them out of office in a year or two we will vote them back in.

add to this that there are a certain percent of people that would not vote for a Dem or a Repub no matter what, for these people they have lost all power and they are just "yes" men for the parties they support. This is why both parties seek to divided us as much a possible, the more the country is divided, the more power the parties have.

Many have become slaves to the parties. Just think about how many people on here would not vote for Dem no matter what or who was running agaisnt said Dem.

I agree that the petitions won't likely do any good, but I did sign the one for North Carolina anyway. We have the required 25,000 signatures to be considered. I have been thinking about this third party idea, and perhaps I was wrong? I think we have come to the place where we need a third party, and it should be called, The Secessionist Party. The main purpose of this party is to push for secession from the union, and the formation of a new government, where the main power lies with the states. As I said, I don't believe the petitions will do any good, but that doesn't mean we can't succeed in leaving the union. I believe this needs to be done at the country level first, where it has the best chance of success.

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Considering the number of signatures compared to the number of citizens in each state.....it miniscule. It's time Americans grow up and move on instead of sulking and acting like children. It gets worse with each election. Don't like the results of an election? Then work to change the reasons the GOP can't win any more.

This is about more than the loss of an election. This is about having a man in power who has as his stated goal, the fundamental transformation of America. He is working overtime to destroy this country, and is doing things outside of the law. In the past, I have had people suggest that secession was our only hope, and I have not gone along with it, holding out hope that things could get better? I no longer believe that is the case. The damage Obama is doing is beyond repair, and we have come to the place where a state by state pull out from the union is our only hope. Nationally syndicated talk show host, Mike Church, has been promoting this for sometime. He is located in Louisiana, and they were the first state to submit a petition.

This petition is a waste of time, except to show our disatisfaction with what is taking place. It is like the petition to impeach Obama, that goes to Obama. A lot of good that will do! If we really want to pull out of the union, the government officials at the local level will have to support the idea. We need a political party that promotes seccession, and whose candidates are running for that purpose. It is a long shot, but not impossible.

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