nebula Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted November 26, 2012 What do you do when are placed in a situation where you either: a. Trust in God and step out in faith or b. Please/honor/respect your parent by playing it safe and not doing anything until surrounding situations are lined up before making any plans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,696 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,515 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 26, 2012 I would say discernment is key, every situation is different. What is the situation? is it something you feel God is commanding you to do, or something you know God would approve of? what do you have to gain by stepping up now, and what do have to lose? and likewise, what do you have to gain by waiting for a more opportune time, and what to lose? for example, if you want to go to church and you know your parents arnt really friendly, do you just up and go without asking them? or do you ask them first chance they get, even if the happen to be drunk at the time? or do you wait till a time where theyre sober and more opt to listen to your request? If its an actual command from God-I would say its always option A. but God doesnt always speak like that anymore-I would say a lot depends on the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted November 26, 2012 For clarity, the child is an adult no longer living at home. And the issue isn't just about following God but about supporting this one's betrothed husband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladypeartree Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 37 Topic Count: 537 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 32,625 Content Per Day: 5.01 Reputation: 23,226 Days Won: 217 Joined: 06/21/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/23/1953 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Pray, pray,pray and pray again ...then go talk to someone who you trust that is NOT involved either emotionaly or by ties of affection to anyone concerned in the situation. It is easy to just say " take option A " BUT sometimes we hear what we want to hear and God sends a warning through others. Without knowing the situation it is dangerous to offer advice in what sounds like a very impotrant decision ....praying for you sis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Patriot21 Posted November 26, 2012 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 28 Topic Count: 338 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 15,696 Content Per Day: 2.46 Reputation: 8,515 Days Won: 39 Joined: 10/25/2006 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/27/1985 Share Posted November 26, 2012 out of the home, and supporting ones husband, then the duty is to her husband, not her parents. And, I should note, you can honor ones parents without having to actually obey them, but when a women leaves her parents to get married, she is now under her husbands authority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted November 28, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted November 28, 2012 What do you do when are placed in a situation where you either: a. Trust in God and step out in faith or b. Please/honor/respect your parent by playing it safe and not doing anything until surrounding situations are lined up before making any plans? Probably need more information. I would tend to agree with Patriot depends on the circumstances. We should always trust God over trusting our parents. But I agree with Patriot. When someone is married their first loyalty is to God then their spouse. Parents come third I would think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted December 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.96 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Actually, it's betrothed, so not married yet. And the parent believes honor = obedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted December 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2012 The Bible does say children are to honor/obey their parents. Actually, it's betrothed, so not married yet. And the parent believes honor = obedience. Nebula well if it is a fiancé situation then that complicates matters a bit. What is it that the child is disagreeing on? How old is the child? “…the parent believes honor = obedience…” This is true. There is no question that a young person living at home should honor their parents’ wishes. Ex. 20:12 Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long in the land that the Lord your God is giving you. Eph 6:1-3 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right. “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted December 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nebula, However, there is the flip side to this as well. We are called as parents not to provoke our children to anger but point them to the Lord. We’re also not to provoke children to the point they become discouraged. Would you agree? Eph. 6:4 Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. Col. 3:21 Fathers, do not provoke your children, lest they become discouraged. Another question would be does God speak directly to individuals and at what point in time do we as parents have to let our children make their own choices with God’s guidance? When do they become responsible for their own lives and actions? When do parents go from being authorities to being mentors? Is it at 18? Is it when a child marries? Is it at 21? Is it when they graduate from university/college? I wonder... This takes great wisdom. What do you think? God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted December 4, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 4, 2012 Nebula, Regarding wisdom I often turn to the Proverbs. Prov. 13:1 A wise son hears his father's instruction, but a scoffer does not listen to rebuke. Prov. 15:5 A fool despises his father's instruction, but whoever heeds reproof is prudent. Prov. 23:13 Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you strike him with a rod, he will not die. Prov. 23:22 Listen to your father who gave you life, and do not despise your mother when she is old. Prov. 29:15 The rod and reproof give wisdom, but a child left to himself brings shame to his mother. I don’t have the answer to the situation. I’m not sure there’s an easy answer. I can tell you what my Father in Law (FiL) did. When we were dating/courting he and my wife’s mother were the authorities over my wife's life. When we got engaged I shared the authority over my wife’s life with them. When we were married they passed on that authority to me as her husband, brother in Christ, lover, protector, and friend. I am to be her servant leader and point her to Christ. Those are my thoughts. I hope it helps. Praying for the situation. God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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