Steve_S Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hate to throw cold water on this discussion, but . . . Does "getting high" glorify God in any way, shape or form? No one has addressed that question, yet. Man's laws are what they are - always subject to change. We can choose to obey them, break them, or answer to a "Higher Power." Just sayin' Blessings! -Ed This is a non sequitur as far as I can see it. I haven't seen anyone here advocating the use of marijuana, nor does the law require anyone to use it. As far as the man's law statement in and of itself, this is a representative republic that occasionally has statewide democratic referendums. We are afforded the right to take part in the making of laws through direct and indirect means, in other words. We don't have a king. Man made law in this country is made by representatives of "us" or by "us" directly through referendum. Paul used his right as a roman citizen to appeal to Caesar rather than allowing himself to be executed. My point here is that in this country we don't have a king, an absolute ruler who makes decrees. We have a form of democracy which we are legally allowed to participate in. Participating in and discussing government and the law does not defy Biblical precedent as long as you are legally allowed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavedByGrace1981 Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 104 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,923 Content Per Day: 0.61 Reputation: 462 Days Won: 2 Joined: 04/02/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/22/1953 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Hate to throw cold water on this discussion, but . . . Does "getting high" glorify God in any way, shape or form? No one has addressed that question, yet. Man's laws are what they are - always subject to change. We can choose to obey them, break them, or answer to a "Higher Power." Just sayin' Blessings! -Ed This is a non sequitur as far as I can see it. I haven't seen anyone here advocating the use of marijuana, nor does the law require anyone to use it. As far as the man's law statement in and of itself, this is a representative republic that occasionally has statewide democratic referendums. We are afforded the right to take part in the making of laws through direct and indirect means, in other words. We don't have a king. Man made law in this country is made by representatives of "us" or by "us" directly through referendum. Paul used his right as a roman citizen to appeal to Caesar rather than allowing himself to be executed. My point here is that in this country we don't have a king, an absolute ruler who makes decrees. We have a form of democracy which we are legally allowed to participate in. Participating in and discussing government and the law does not defy Biblical precedent as long as you are legally allowed to do so. For family and personal reasons, I don't have much of a sense of humor when it comes to substances that "get you high" - whether they be drugs, booze, sniffing glue or whatever else the human mind can come up with to obliterate itself. For that reason, I probably should not have commented on this subject. That's all I'm going to say about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I agree that alcohol is worse for the body than marijuana, but I find it interesting how often that non sequitur arguement is used to defend pot. Why does it matter that marijuana is "better" than some other drug, when both are drugs and both are harmful to the body? So is nicotine, yet... Yes, nicotine is another harmful drug. Not sure what your point is about that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) yep...stoned is the right word . Eyes blood shot and wide open . It stones your brain and mobility and time is all in slow motion. Plus if a person drinks alcohol and smokes pot , it intensifies the effect on a person like your body weights a ton.. takes forever to get to where you want to walk to. I don't need drugs or alcohol .... I rather be in my normal straight mind and be on a natural high with life . Thank you Lord ! Absolutely, on every point! And amen!, to being high on life and a big thank you to our Lord for His grace that is sufficient for us, that we don't need anything but Him! Now, another term for getting stoned that was used amongst my peers I grew up with, was, "getting baked", or "getting fried". Very apt descriptions, whether they realized or not, because that's what it does, it fries your brain. It makes you sluggish, everything slows down, all the senses are dulled and distorted. So I think it is sheer nonsense for anyone to seriously say that regular toking up is not harmful, and is even beneficial. I was in hard rock bands for many years before I was saved, amongst the drug culture, so I know first-hand what a pothead is and isn't. I know how they smell, how they look, how they act, how they react, how they perceive, how they think. Things that are idiotic, childish and stupid are hilarious to them when they are stoned, because they cannot think straight. I wouldn't want them operating machinery, driving a car, or firing a gun at the range beside me. Edited December 9, 2012 by Peace Maker Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) I agree that alcohol is worse for the body than marijuana, but I find it interesting how often that non sequitur arguement is used to defend pot. Why does it matter that marijuana is "better" than some other drug, when both are drugs and both are harmful to the body? I have failed to find a real scientific study that has shown marijuana is harmful to the body By "real", I take it you mean someone that is a user of marijuana? There are tons of scientific studies that show that it is harmful, but they are not even necessary. Because everyone who has been a habitual pot smoker, or knows one, knows what a stoner looks and acts like. You can pick them out from a mile away. please show me some double blind scientific studies that show me marijuana is harmful. please think about what you say before you speak. what you said about stoners is completely stereotypical and racist, there are all kinds of people that smoke marijuana responibly and you wouldn't even suspect they smoke. Why are you getting so testy? I thought pot makes you mellow? Regarding thinking about what I say before I speak, perhaps you should take your own advice. To wit, I don't know whether to laugh my head off, or shake my head in disgust at you for calling me RACIST simply because I don't agree with you about marijuana. I mean, really??? And your straw-man argument about there being lots of people that smoke up and we wouldn't know it, is disingenuous at best. There are some people that smoked nicotine cigarettes their whole life and live to 80 years old, so should they be used as an example that smoking cigarettes is okay? Lastly, it is an oxymoron to talk about responsible pot-smoking. Responsible according to who, the pot smoker? And according to what contrived definition of the word? Along that line, let's let the alcoholic tell us he doesn't have a drinking problem as well. Simply put, marijuana is a drug. Drugs addict you. When you are addicted you want and need more of them. Responsible drug-taking is akin to responsible porn-surfing as far as I'm concerned. Edited December 9, 2012 by Peace Maker Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I agree that alcohol is worse for the body than marijuana, but I find it interesting how often that non sequitur arguement is used to defend pot. Why does it matter that marijuana is "better" than some other drug, when both are drugs and both are harmful to the body? So is nicotine, yet... Yes, nicotine is another harmful drug. Not sure what your point is about that, though. There are no arguments about its legality. Okay, thanks for clarifying. So you are saying that because nicotine cigarettes are legal, marijuana should be as well? And you're thinking, why the different standards for the two? Anyway, legality is not the thrust of my opinions on marijuana. Suffice it to say, judgment - among other things - is not impaired when smoking nicotine, as it is with marijuana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_S Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Servant Followers: 25 Topic Count: 275 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 5,208 Content Per Day: 1.00 Reputation: 1,893 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/02/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2012 I agree that alcohol is worse for the body than marijuana, but I find it interesting how often that non sequitur arguement is used to defend pot. Why does it matter that marijuana is "better" than some other drug, when both are drugs and both are harmful to the body? So is nicotine, yet... Yes, nicotine is another harmful drug. Not sure what your point is about that, though. There are no arguments about its legality. Okay, thanks for clarifying. So you are saying that because nicotine cigarettes are legal, marijuana should be as well? And you're thinking, why the different standards for the two? Anyway, legality is not the thrust of my opinions on marijuana. Suffice it to say, judgment - among other things - is not impaired when smoking nicotine, as it is with marijuana. It not being the thrust of your opinion not withstanding, what is your opinion on the legality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVE SONGS Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 131 Topics Per Day: 0.03 Content Count: 2,188 Content Per Day: 0.50 Reputation: 135 Days Won: 8 Joined: 04/10/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted December 9, 2012 Simply put, marijuana is a drug. Drugs addict you. When you are addicted you want and need more of them. Responsible drug-taking is akin to responsible porn-surfing as far as I'm concerned. you dont happen to drink coffee or Pepsi do you? coffee, pepsi, or cigarettes ...has no intoxification on the brain or mobility of the body, as alcohol or drugs do, especially when driving a vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It not being the thrust of your opinion not withstanding, what is your opinion on the legality? That's a tough one, because I had neighbors next to me in my apartment suite that were always smoking marijuana. Every time I opened my window, my door, my patio door, or even walked by their door in the hallway there was a huge waft of the reeking marijuana smoke coming out. And I don't want to smell that. I don't want it sticking to my clothes. I don't want to have to buy air fresheners because of someone else. I don't want pot smoke coming into my suite and lingering there for hours. I don't want it coming in to my vents, etc. I don't want children in my home breathing that junk in. I had to have all my windows closed 24/7, no matter how hot the temperature was outside, because of them, because if I left my windows open and was out for several hours (at work, or wherever), when I came home it would be like I entered the living room of a marijuana smoke-a-thon. What if some of us were asthmatics? This ordeal went on for over a year and we ended up having to move because the situation was so untenable. Repeated complaints to several different parties fell on deaf ears, and it seemed like it was a big joke to the potheads. So how would making it legal help people like me, who don't want to breathe that disgusting smell in, and who don't want the inconvenience of being around inconsiderate stoners? Remember, legal doesn't mean "right", or "good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peace Maker Tony Posted December 9, 2012 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 63 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 16 Days Won: 0 Joined: 11/28/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1969 Share Posted December 9, 2012 you dont happen to drink coffee or Pepsi do you? Nope. I don't drink coffee, and once in a blue moon I will have a non-caffeinated soda with stevia. Other than that, I drink mostly water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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