allofgrace Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 158 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 26 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/30/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) 1 Tim 3:2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; " v12 Let deacons be the husbands of one wife, ruling their children and their own houses well. Mark 10:4-9 They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce, and to dismiss her.” 5 And Jesus answered and said to them, “Because of the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation, God ‘made them male and female.’ 7 ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, 8 and the two shall become one flesh’; so then they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let not man separate.” Just like the issue of divorce, Jesus said it was not that way from the beginning and quotes from Genesis, and notice the be joined to his wife, not his wives. And the other two references mention the office of the bishop and the deacons and they were to be blameless and the husband of one wife. No church that I know of would consider a preacher or any lay person to be faithful who came in with two wives, one on each arm and allow either to be even members of their church much less leaders. Just like all doctrine, his servant you are to whom you obey. And just like Abraham who was righteous by faith, not by his actions, he obeyed the flesh and Ishmael was of the flesh, but Abraham was thankful that his righteousness was by grace in Christ. We are to do as Paul said, the things you see me do in Christ, these you are to do. Follow the good, reject the deeds of the flesh. Edited January 17, 2013 by allofgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,780 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 17, 2013 This will seem romanticized but try not that direction rather spiritual intent! We were born in a world and body of wrong... it is all we have ever known till the asking of Jesus to save us. We are now instructed to renew our minds and so doing through Spirit and Word ever waring against the body and world influence that we stemmed from! In the beginning in the innocence we cannot know by obvious realities... however God The Holy Spirit can rebuild that heart and we can be reformed to proper thought but not without the letting go of the present wrong. It is in this way I am now speaking of Holiness in marriage: The beautiful intimacy we share with God by His Grace and Mercy teaches us a lot for what marriage is all about... The uniqueness of the individual and limitlessness of the qualities that they can become is truly a worthy of one's self invested into another and surprise of surprises this enrichment returns as (true value) which is greatened by your self which was poured into (mate)... a building of riches that cannot receive rust, moth or end but is living and eternal... so that when you look deeply into her eyes you will see how the Lord has designed the selfless to be the self improving and how the bond of love can actually have newness everyday of increase without effect of this present place of sin and bodies influence toward such... It will be the greatest and most difficult work a man can do but with wisdom and total investment of self (so Christ and His Church) so man and his wife... Eph 5:25-33 25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body, of His flesh and of His bones. 31 "For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh." 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. NKJV Because of lust and stupidity- I destroyed this experience from my life here and because of God's great mercy He has shown me the great cost of sin by allowing me to see this... mercy you say~To see and not have? yes for in my healing He has placed my heart to be of woman to my Lord and the excellencies of this engagement with Him in work here..., in this place, my all that I am growing into in understanding of His endless love for us all! Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Polygamous marriage is not part of that pattern. So which one of us will end up being Jesus' one wife then, since he will only have one? Of a truth the word 'bride' is used in a singular sense when used to apply to the church but that does not negate the very fact that we are many who are all espoused to Christ. That said, it would not be a righteous thing for me personally to have more than one wife. I don't have what it takes. Most times I doubt seriously that I have what it takes to righteously keep one. God bless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same. You need to define them for us then as there is at least one who is called both a concubine and a wife to the same man. She is in judges and ends up dying a vicious death. David was righteous and had multiple wives. Jacob is stated to be a 'plain' man who lived in tents and the word 'plain' there is the same word God used when saying Job was a 'perfect' man who loved God and hated evil. He had 2 wives as well. Lots of interesting fodder back in the OT to meditate on. Guess that is why the scripture says that the righteous man delights in the law of God and meditates in it day and night! Peace to you Ronnie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 17, 2013 I think we should differentiate between wive and concubine, not the same. You need to define them for us then as there is at least one who is called both a concubine and a wife to the same man. She is in judges and ends up dying a vicious death. David was righteous and had multiple wives. Jacob is stated to be a 'plain' man who lived in tents and the word 'plain' there is the same word God used when saying Job was a 'perfect' man who loved God and hated evil. He had 2 wives as well. Lots of interesting fodder back in the OT to meditate on. Guess that is why the scripture says that the righteous man delights in the law of God and meditates in it day and night! Peace to you Ronnie. Peace? Peace? How can I have peace when you rag me out like this. Just kidding. Just making fun! I was expecting a reaction to my statement. It's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Posted January 17, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 115 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 8,281 Content Per Day: 1.13 Reputation: 249 Days Won: 3 Joined: 03/03/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/30/1955 Share Posted January 17, 2013 In Scripture only Christian Bishops are forbidden to have more than one wife. HOWEVER: In every polygamous household in the Bible, we see a lot of dysfunction. I have heard that the Chinese symbol for 'trouble' is a house with two women in it; THAT'S A BIT OF WISDOM SOME FOLKS NEED TO LEARN!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayin jade Posted January 18, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 44 Topic Count: 6,178 Topics Per Day: 0.88 Content Count: 43,784 Content Per Day: 6.23 Reputation: 11,227 Days Won: 58 Joined: 01/03/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife? Abraham Did anything good come from abraham taking a second woman while married to sarah? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 18, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 40,780 Content Per Day: 7.95 Reputation: 21,262 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Who was the first godly and righteous man in the O.T. to have more than one wife? Abraham Did anything good come from abraham taking a second woman while married to sarah? No. I've been wronged.... I was just anwering His question(*)^$^#%@%$#&)(&_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted January 18, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 18, 2013 Polygamy is far less offensive than homosexual marriage. To who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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