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Catholicism, the Pope, Islam, and Chrislam?

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As many of you know I live in 1 of the disaster areas created by the super storm Sandy. We were hit hard, and for about 8 weeks I couldn't get online often, and when I could I was limited to how long I could stay online. Things have gotten better now. But during that time, I seem to remember a post saying the Pope is in favor of a 1 world government. Moreover, I think it said the Pope is also calling for a 1 world religion. The name suggested was Chrislam, which sounds like Christianity and Islam. Am I remembering this correctly, or is my mind playing tricks on me? If I am remembering correctly, what became of this idea?

Before the storm I was working in a place where there was a white Egyptian who was Muslim. Me and him were having some very good conversations comparing Islam to Christianity. I was surprised when he told me Muslims accept that Jesus was born to a virgin. In other words they accept that Jesus didn't have a human Father. I didn't know that, and I thought it might not be so hard to get this man to accept Jesus as the Son of God. Although when I asked my co-worker about this, his reply was God is a spiritual being who doesn't have sons, daughters, sisters or brothers. And then the boss sent him on a job, and I haven't seen him since. Thanks to Sandy I lost that job so I may never see this man again.

Granted there is approximately 20% of the Islam religion who are fanatical killers of anyone who isn't Islam. But the large majority of them are peaceful. I was also discussing this here with The Other. So Sandy hit and eventually I got online, and I thought I read what I said. If the Muslim people really believe Jesus didn't have a human father, maybe it would be possible to get them to realize Jesus was part of God before He became human, and that now He's still part of God but He has a glorified immortal body. Maybe this is what the Pope is thinking. I know I want to see peace on Earth from all religions. I would think the pope does too.

So does anyone know anything more about this?

John

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A one world religion would never contain the truth as found in the Bible. Jesus is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. Nobody comes to the Father except through Him.

John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

The Bible is alive and is a two-edged sword. There is no other truth apart from Jesus Christ.

Heb. 4:11-13

11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and powerful, and sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing even to the division of soul and spirit, and of joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 13 And there is no creature hidden from His sight, but all things are naked and open to the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.

A Muslim will never admit that Jesus Christ is God the Son on their own. This truth takes the Holy Spirit to open their eyes to. The “holy” Muslim teachings only allow for Allah to be god and Mohammad is his greatest prophet. Both are false as we know. Allah is not Jehovah God and Mohammad was a false prophet.

Do not be decieved. The only way that there will be one religion in the world is when Jesus Christ returns as predicted in God’s Word.

God bless,

GE

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Hi John,

this is true. there are photos of the pope even kissing the Koran.

this is nothing more than the propagation of the agenda of the ecumenical movement.

there can be no true peace on earth between all religions. it will be a false peace.

a true Christian will refuse to accept that other religions praise the same God, even in accepting that Jesus Christ is the son of God.

and dare i say, a true Muslim will state that you are an infidel if you refuse to acknowledge Allah or Mohammed as a prophet of God.

as Scripture states, we must be wary of conforming to this world. even if the terms of peace seem uncompromising to our convictions, the underlying motive is to indoctrinate the world religions into a false global unity. it is written.

as an aside, remember who we are dealing with here.

a cursory glance at Roman Catholicism fruits speaks volumes.

the blind leading the blind.

the deceived dealing in deception.

the harlot church is not to be emulated or trusted.

i wish you could have spoken more with your ex-coworker and perhaps gotten down to the nitty gritty of his beliefs, like exactly who Jesus Christ was to him as a Muslim.

love to you.

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I was surprised when he told me Muslims accept that Jesus was born to a virgin. In other words they accept that Jesus didn't have a human Father.

Hmmmm....not so fast....he is only telling you what you want to hear

In the Qur'an and other Islamic sources, there is no mention of Joseph the carpenter, nor any recollection of the inn and manger legend. On the contrary, the Qur'an describes that Mary retreated from her people (outside the city), and gave birth to Jesus underneath a remote date palm tree. The tree miraculously provided nourishment for her during labor and birth. (See Chapter 19 of the Qur'an for the entire story. The chapter has aptly been named "The Chapter of Mary.")

However, the Qur'an repeatedly reminds us that Adam, the first human being, was born with neither a human mother nor a human father. Therefore, Jesus' miraculous birth affords him no higher standing or presumed partnership with God. When God ordains a matter, He merely says, "Be" and it is so. "The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be!" And he was" (3:59). In Islam, Jesus is regarded as a human prophet and messenger of God, not part of God Himself.

Muslims do not believe in Jesus the Christ as the Son of God as Christians do.

As for the pope and ecumenical movements, those are not of God. The peace this would inspire, would not engender

any type of freedom, but rather, that each individual had to believe one way...their way....and you can guess the rest

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Might I add to the discussion.

If you read "The Keys of this Blood" a book written by Father Malachi Martin, one can easily understand that John Paul II wanted a one world government and he wanted the Catholic church a big part of that. I don't remember of a forced one world religion, but control.

As for kissing the Koran, it is the custom of the Pope to kiss any gift he receives whether he even likes it or not. It's protocol just to be nice.

As for the peaceful Muslims, many are peaceful because not all are required to participate in any given Jihad. It is was also discovered in the HLN court case that the Muslim Brotherhood forbade any violence in the US until they get strong enough to make sure they could have victory. They know that they can't defeat the American People now, so they are carrying out a non violent jihad that is using our own system to bring down our government...... If they can manage to do that, then they will attempt a voilent Jihad to put the American people under Sharia Law (which is their driven agenda demanded by the Koran and Hadiths).

So, you are correct in seeing that right now there are a lot of Muslims that are seeming to be peaceful. They are also taught to lie to your face while they hate your guts when it comes to things mandated in the Koran.

I would suggest you read the Koran in the chronological order it was written (not the length of chapter) and understand that by its own teaching if there are discrepancies (and there are many) that the one written last abrogates the others. Read that and download and skim through "Reliance of the Traveller" which is the accepted English translation of Sharia Law.

This way you can read for yourself the dangers of a theocracy that is not compatible with the Constitution.

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What you are speaking of is called Chrislam and is a false faith, part of the Emergent Church with New Age beliefs that rid scripture of all that one side or the other does not agree with. We are warned that in the last days there will be this kind of teaching. It is one thing to have peace with others, and another to disregard scripture for peace's sake. Beware!

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:thumbsup:

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

And Amen~!

Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. 2 John 2:22-23

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Before the storm I was working in a place where there was a white Egyptian who was Muslim. Me and him were having some very good conversations comparing Islam to Christianity. I was surprised when he told me Muslims accept that Jesus was born to a virgin. In other words they accept that Jesus didn't have a human Father. I didn't know that, and I thought it might not be so hard to get this man to accept Jesus as the Son of God. Although when I asked my co-worker about this, his reply was God is a spiritual being who doesn't have sons, daughters, sisters or brothers. And then the boss sent him on a job, and I haven't seen him since. Thanks to Sandy I lost that job so I may never see this man again.

The quran states that Jesus was born an illegitmate son of Mary. Born of a human father whom muslims think was a roman soldier. His view is not the standard islamic view.

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I honestly don't know how interested I am in reading the Qur'an. Before the storm I was trying to find an English version of the Qur'an online, and I couldn't. So if someone knows where one is, I'd like to look at it. I still don't know what is meant by Chrislam. If I google Chrislam would that help? I just want to know what this stuff is. I have no desire to become Islamic. I just want to be better educated on it because I don't think it's going to go away. As for me, I am Christian. I've always know Jesus is the Son of God.

Now here's another curiosity that some of you may know. In the past 2 months I watched the old movie, "The 10 Commandments". The one with Charston Heston playing Moses. In the movie once Moses finds out he's a Hebrew, he's banished from Egypt and sets out to cross a desert. He finally comes upon some people he stays with. In the movie the man who's tent Moses is staying in says he's a descendent of Ishmael. In the movie Moses marries one of the man's daughters. She tells Moses that God dwells on the nearby mountain. That's the mountain Moses climbs and he finds the burning bush which God speaks to him through. It's been a really long time since I read the account of Moses in the Bible. I do remember it was much different than the movie. So I'm wondering if the Bible says Moses was taken in by people who were descendants of Ishmael ? These are just curiosities for me. Does anyone know? If not it's no big deal to me.

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Look at my post above and click on the word Chrislam, which is underlined and a link to their website. The Qur'an can be found here ... http://www.wright-ho...slam/Quran.html

Hollywood is Hollywood. I did not find any such statement in scripture. Perhaps you can show me where he claims to be of the tribe of Ismael.

Exodus 2:11-25

Now it came to pass in those days, when Moses was grown, that he went out to his brethren and looked at their burdens. And he saw an Egyptian beating a Hebrew, one of his brethren. So he looked this way and that way, and when he saw no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. And when he went out the second day, behold, two Hebrew men were fighting, and he said to the one who did the wrong, “Why are you striking your companion?”

Then he said, “Who made you a prince and a judge over us? Do you intend to kill me as you killed the Egyptian?”

So Moses feared and said, “Surely this thing is known!” When Pharaoh heard of this matter, he sought to kill Moses. But Moses fled from the face of Pharaoh and dwelt in the land of Midian; and he sat down by a well.

Now the priest of Midian had seven daughters. And they came and drew water, and they filled the troughs to water their father’s flock. Then the shepherds came and drove them away; but Moses stood up and helped them, and watered their flock.

When they came to Reuel their father, he said, “How is it that you have come so soon today?”

And they said, “An Egyptian delivered us from the hand of the shepherds, and he also drew enough water for us and watered the flock.”

So he said to his daughters, “And where is he? Why is it that you have left the man? Call him, that he may eat bread.”

Then Moses was content to live with the man, and he gave Zipporah his daughter to Moses. And she bore him a son. He called his name Gershom, for he said, “I have been a stranger in a foreign land.”

Now it happened in the process of time that the king of Egypt died. Then the children of Israel groaned because of the bondage, and they cried out; and their cry came up to God because of the bondage. So God heard their groaning, and God remembered His covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob. And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God acknowledged them.

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