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Russia Considering Passing Nationwide Anti-Gay Law

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MOSCOW (AP) — Kissing his boyfriend during a protest in front of Russia's parliament earned Pavel Samburov 30 hours of detention and the equivalent of a $16 fine on a charge of "hooliganism." But if a bill that comes up for a first vote later this month becomes law, such a public kiss could be defined as illegal "homosexual propaganda" and bring a fine of up to $16,000.

The legislation being pushed by the Kremlin and the Russian Orthodox Church would make it illegal nationwide to provide minors with information that is defined as "propaganda of sodomy, lesbianism, bisexuality and transgenderism." It includes a ban on holding public events that promote gay rights. St. Petersburg and a number of other Russian cities already have similar laws on their books.

http://news.yahoo.com/russia-moves-enact-anti-gay-law-nationwide-125825051.html

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Sounds as if the USA & the UN could take some lessons from Russia!

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When Sodoms doors are just outside mine... shall I not sit in the sorrows of coming destruction-> so

the why of tribulation and the pre-tribulational rapture! Love, Steven

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Hummmm...... is it possible that it's safer to be a Christian in Russia than it is in the USA???

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Nope, they'll get anyone that doesn't conform to state image.

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Sounds as if the USA & the UN could take some lessons from Russia!

Think about that for a minute, joi. Sure homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord but.......would you really want the state making YOUR personal life illegal? Suppose you wanted to become a Christian (I know you already are!) but that was illegal? Or you wanted to join an activist group and that was illegal? I'm not seeing Russia as a bastion of freedom. And their ban on homosexuality is not to preserve Christian values. It's all about the state.

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Sounds as if the USA & the UN could take some lessons from Russia!

Think about that for a minute, joi. Sure homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord but.......would you really want the state making YOUR personal life illegal? Suppose you wanted to become a Christian (I know you already are!) but that was illegal? Or you wanted to join an activist group and that was illegal? I'm not seeing Russia as a bastion of freedom. And their ban on homosexuality is not to preserve Christian values. It's all about the state.

Agreed. What's next, a complete ban on alcohol? That was tried somewhere and didn't work :cool2: .

I agree that it is a sin yes, but just imagine if states started legislating against every sin?

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Sounds as if the USA & the UN could take some lessons from Russia!

So you favour taking away people's freedoms do you. What happens when they move on to take away yours?

Remember Martin Niemoller's words

:First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;

Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;

Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.

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FEZ:

I agree that it is a sin yes, but just imagine if states started legislating against every sin?

We do have laws like theft, and committing Murder. Child Porn laws. Those don't prevent people from committing these crimes but they are laws against sin. Is not prosecuting people caught in this unnatural act not also a sin? Is it any worse than theft? Paul said Flee fornication, so it seems that it's a pretty bad sin, and should have laws to punish those that commit this crime.

So coming out of the closet means your fitted with handcuff's.

Mike.

Except the other examples you states refer to crimes that hurt and restrict the freedom of others. Why should we criminalise activities that have no victims.

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Without having some of you put words in my post (so to speak), I was referring to the USA not making legal gay marriage.

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