Tinky Posted March 19, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Share Posted March 19, 2013 If you’ve ever read the story of Job in the Bible, you are probably aware of the fact that Job was extremely wealthy and had a great family. But, tragedy struck and he lost his wealth, his children and his wife. To make matters worse, Job was reduced to excruciating pain, and was eventually covered with sores from head to toe. All this was too much for Job, and he eventually accused the Lord of being unjust. God didn’t answer Job’s accusation directly. Instead, He began to ask Job a series of questions and one of these questions demonstrates perhaps the most amazing scientific truth in all of scripture: Job 38:31-32 Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazzaroth in his season? or canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons? Now God makes a statement about three stellar constellations, and as we examine these, we’ll see that science has only recently confirmed something that God told us a long time ago. First let’s take a look at what God says about Orion: ‘Canst thou . . . loose the bands of Orion?’ God is talking specifically about the three stars that form the belt on the Orion constellation. These three stars appeared to be fixed on our sky, rigidly aligned to form a relatively straight line. Yet God asks Job, “Hey do you think YOU can loosen this band?” It’s as if He is saying, “Well, I can buddy!” It may seem as though the band of stars is fixed, but Garrett P. Serviss, the noted astronomer, wrote about the bands of Orion in his book “Curiosities of the Sky”. Today, this band consists of an almost perfectly straight line of second-magnitude stars that are equally spaced and very beautiful. In the course of time, however, the two right-hand stars, Mintaka and Alnilam, will approach each other and form a naked-eye double; but the third, Alnitak, will drift away eastward so that the band will no longer exist. In other words, one star is traveling in a certain direction at a certain speed, a second one is traveling in a different direction at a second speed, and the third one is going in a third direction and at a still different speed. As a matter of fact, every star in Orion is traveling its own course, independent of all the others. As time passes, this band of stars will indeed be loosened, just as God told Job. But now let’s take a look at the Pleiades Constellation. Look at what God says: ‘Canst thou bind the sweet influence of the Pleiades . . . ?’ God seems to be challenging Job in exactly the opposite manner from what he said about Orion! It’s as if He is saying, “Hey Job, you think you can keep Pleiades together? Well, I can!” As it turns out, the seven stars of the Pleiades are in reality a grouping of 250 suns. And photographs now reveal, that 250 blazing suns in this group are all traveling together in one common direction. Isabel Lewis of the United States Naval Observatory (quoted in Phillip L. Knox’, “Wonder Worlds”) tells us that astronomers have identified 250 stars as actual members of this group, all sharing a common motion and drifting through space in the same direction. Lewis says they are ‘journeying onward together through the immensity of space.’ Dr. Robert J. Trumpler (quoted in the same book) says that over 25,000 individual measures of the Pleiades stars are now available, And these measurements confirm that the whole cluster is moving in a southeasterly direction. The Pleiades stars are kind of like a swarm of birds, flying together to a distant goal. Sounds a lot like what God described in the Book of Job! “Hey Job, can you bind Pleiades together? I did!” Finally, let’s take a look at Arcturus. Remember what God said about this constellation: ‘Canst thou guide Arcturus with his sons?’ Once again, God seems to be challenging Job here. “Hey Job, you think you can direct Arcturus anywhere you want? Well, I can!” Arcturus may look like it is fixed in the sky, but Garrett P. Serviss wrote that Arcturus is one of the greatest suns in the universe, and it is a runaway star whose speed of flight is about 257 miles per second. Arcturus, according to astronomers, is thousands of times more massive than our sun, which is traveling only 12 ½ miles a second! Charles Burckhalter, of the Chabot Observatory, (again quoted in “Wonder Worlds”) says that Arcturus’ high velocity places it that very small class of stars that apparently are a law unto themselves. Arcturus is a runaway. The combined attraction of all the stars we know cannot stop him or even turn him in his path. When Mr. Burckhalter was directed to the Book of Job, he studied it in the light of modern discovery and made a statement that has attracted worldwide attention: “The study of the Book of Job and its comparison with the latest scientific discoveries has brought me to the matured conviction that the Bible is an inspired book and was written by the One who made the stars.” These scientific facts recorded in the book of Job concerning the Pleiades, Orion and Arcturus constellations anticipated scientific discovery by nearly 3,000 years. Scientists only discovered these startling facts in the Twentieth Century, yet they were recorded in the book of Job nearly 3000 years ago. Twentieth Century science has proven God’s Word, the Bible, is true. http://pleaseconvinc...ic-discoveries/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayyycuuup Posted March 19, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 68 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,384 Content Per Day: 0.37 Reputation: 155 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/20/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/22/1996 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Very Interesting!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joi Posted March 19, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 506 Topics Per Day: 0.11 Content Count: 1,922 Content Per Day: 0.41 Reputation: 173 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/12/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 19, 2013 Great read. Job is said to be the oldest book in our Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted March 19, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nice post Tinky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTC Posted March 19, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 18 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 2,795 Content Per Day: 0.65 Reputation: 1,502 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/25/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/26/1952 Share Posted March 19, 2013 I confess I only skimmed through the article Tinky gave the link to. Alas, I have always been a slow reader and getting older hasn't made me faster. But I read some of it. What I found interesting is how the author of that article was so quick to believe ancient man had superior knowledge of the universe. (of course he only had it because God gave it to him) But why should we, 21 century man, believe anything written by ancient man about the universe, considering ancient man thought the Earth was akin to a flat table? I don't know, but apparently some writers/thinkers/philosophers, do think ancient man knew something we don't because the Bible says it. So, therefore my point is, why do so many of you think it's wrong to believe space is the Heavens, and more specifically, Space is Heaven. Some where, out there, too far for even our best telescopes to see, is an area of space called Heaven. That's where Jesus and the angels live when they aren't needed else where. This is why Jesus went up into the sky when He left Earth. This is also why Jesus looked up when he broke bread and gave thanks. He was both God and man and He knew where the Father and Heaven is. Up there, or out there, some where, in what we call space. The Bible implies space is God's Heaven, and I believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted March 20, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I confess I only skimmed through the article Tinky gave the link to. Alas, I have always been a slow reader and getting older hasn't made me faster. But I read some of it. What I found interesting is how the author of that article was so quick to believe ancient man had superior knowledge of the universe. (of course he only had it because God gave it to him) But why should we, 21 century man, believe anything written by ancient man about the universe, considering ancient man thought the Earth was akin to a flat table? I don't know, but apparently some writers/thinkers/philosophers, do think ancient man knew something we don't because the Bible says it. So, therefore my point is, why do so many of you think it's wrong to believe space is the Heavens, and more specifically, Space is Heaven. Some where, out there, too far for even our best telescopes to see, is an area of space called Heaven. That's where Jesus and the angels live when they aren't needed else where. This is why Jesus went up into the sky when He left Earth. This is also why Jesus looked up when he broke bread and gave thanks. He was both God and man and He knew where the Father and Heaven is. Up there, or out there, some where, in what we call space. The Bible implies space is God's Heaven, and I believe that. We don't know where heaven actually is, or what it will be like, because the bible only gives us a very small glimpse of it. I have my ideas on why God did this but they are only opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ears Posted March 20, 2013 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 348 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 39 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/05/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2013 I feel that this article is telling us that this writer was writing of truths that was unknown at that time ,hence totally God inspired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted March 20, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 I don't know, but apparently some writers/thinkers/philosophers, do think ancient man knew something we don't because the Bible says it. I think we're getting dumber. The only reason we seem smarter is because we have such unprecedented access to pooled knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted March 20, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted March 20, 2013 ...he lost his wealth, his children and his wife. Verse that says Job lost his wife, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinky Posted March 20, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 200 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 1,602 Content Per Day: 0.30 Reputation: 291 Days Won: 8 Joined: 10/24/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 01/01/1986 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 ...he lost his wealth, his children and his wife. Verse that says Job lost his wife, please. It could mean he lost the support of his wife, and became estranged from her. After all, she's not mentioned at the end of the story when Job's fortunes, and family, are restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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