BlessedByTheBest Posted October 25, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 631 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 now that i have duped you into looking... this is fun! http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/ :happyhappy:I I found it led me to a point where I could not concede. It needed some 3rd options. like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray wolf Posted October 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,046 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 194 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/30/1960 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Well it set you up to think of God as a truth you believe or not. Many people are not convinced that that is the truth, nor are they able to state with assurance that it is not the truth. There is little room for wiggling in the questionnaire it would be helpful to provide some guidance for the ambivalent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedByTheBest Posted October 25, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 631 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 25, 2013 Well it set you up to think of God as a truth you believe or not. Many people are not convinced that that is the truth, nor are they able to state with assurance that it is not the truth. There is little room for wiggling in the questionnaire it would be helpful to provide some guidance for the ambivalent. its premise is the existence of absolute truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray wolf Posted October 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,046 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 194 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/30/1960 Share Posted October 25, 2013 Which I do not dispute, if we have knowledge that something is the truth. But here faith is called for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedByTheBest Posted October 26, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 631 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 26, 2013 Which I do not dispute, if we have knowledge that something is the truth. But here faith is called for. thanks for responding gray wolf. i agree. faith is indeed called for because, even when we think something to be true, there exists the possibility that it is false. http://www.proofthatgodexists.org/why-is-god-necessary.php Why is God Necessary For: Knowledge: Unless one knows everything, or has revelation from someone (God) who does, something we don't know could contradict what we think we know. so an absolute truth must logically exist, with or without my knowledge of it. considering my finite viewpoint, who am i to define it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray wolf Posted October 26, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,046 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 194 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/30/1960 Share Posted October 26, 2013 Yes, a truth is stand alone even though everyone may deny it. I was thinking of it in terms of knowing a truth. Sorry for the confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlessedByTheBest Posted October 27, 2013 Group: Senior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 62 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 631 Content Per Day: 0.15 Reputation: 119 Days Won: 2 Joined: 10/24/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yes, a truth is stand alone even though everyone may deny it. I was thinking of it in terms of knowing a truth. Sorry for the confusion. i understand. there is a difference in knowing, and knowing experientially. May God bless you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lylow Posted October 27, 2013 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 22 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/27/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2013 If there is proof that a God exists why are religions still called FAITHS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gray wolf Posted October 27, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 28 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,046 Content Per Day: 0.27 Reputation: 194 Days Won: 2 Joined: 09/25/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 09/30/1960 Share Posted October 27, 2013 (edited) If you have a proof or evidence, I would love to see it. As far as I know, faith is the only way to reach Ultimate Reality. After all, the Bible says without faith, it is impossible to please God. Edited October 27, 2013 by gray wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaparticle Posted October 27, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,363 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 403 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/01/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 27, 2013 I did not find this link helpful, In fact it runs an argument which I think has major issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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