Our Body is our Soul and our Soul is our Body.

[eriphos]

32 minutes ago, other one said:

but it is not always in the flesh and blood body....   and when it leaves the body when we die there is no longer a soul.       When Hydrogen and Oxygen combine we have water....   if they are not combined we have no water.   Same with a soul.   We are a living soul because we have our spirit within the physical body.

Scripture means something and revelation of the spiritual Word should change our understanding of in what God's Word is trying to say.  Yes we have a natural body but there is also a spiritual body and our natural body is a dust body and has only connection to our spirtual body on this realm of earth we cherish so much. 

1 Corinthians 15: 

44 It is sown a soulish body; it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a soulish body, there is also a spiritual body. 
45 Thus it is written, “The first man Adam became a living soul”; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 
46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the soulish, and then the spiritual. 

47The first man was from the earth, a man of dust; the second man is from heaven. 
48 As was the man of dust, so also are those who are of the dust, and as is the man of heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 
49 Just as we have borne the image of the man of dust, we shall also bear the image of the man of heaven. 

[other one]

15 minutes ago, Abdicate said:

Ok, then what do you call that which is "to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord"? The soul. You can take out the spirit or the body, but the soul remains.

Psalms 16:10 (KJV)
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

What was Jesus (can't say "God") when He was in hell for us?

Matthew 10:28 (KJV)
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Revelation 6:9 (KJV)
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:

Revelation 20:4 (KJV)
And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Souls are very much alive after death of the body/removal of the spirit. The combination of dirt and God's breath created a living soul. After sin, we're the walking dead soul, but still in existence. 

Revelation 20:12-15 (KJV)
And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Define what are these dead standing? Spirits? No, it returned back to God. Bodies? No, it returned back to the earth. The soul, the "thing" that makes us who we are.

word translated soul

 

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NT:5590

NT:5590
<START GREEK>yuxh/
<END GREEK> psuche (psoo-khay'); from NT:5594; breath, i.e. (by implication) spirit, abstractly or concretely (the animal sentient principle only;
(Biblesoft's New Exhaustive Strong's Numbers and Concordance with Expanded Greek-Hebrew Dictionary. Copyright © 1994, 2003, 2006 Biblesoft, Inc. and International Bible Translators, Inc.)

 

it is my understanding that we are still dealing with the spirit side of things.

[other one]

2 hours ago, Abdicate said:

Yes, the soul is spiritual, but not the spirit which is returned to God, Ecc 12:7. The soul is not mentioned here in Ecclesiastes because its destination is unknown to the writer. Some go to heaven and others go to hell. But the body and the spirit are dealt with. 

I just don't see it that way.

[IvyRose]

On 11/26/2017 at 5:52 AM, other one said:

but it is not always in the flesh and blood body....   and when it leaves the body when we die there is no longer a soul.       When Hydrogen and Oxygen combine we have water....   if they are not combined we have no water.   Same with a soul.   We are a living soul because we have our spirit within the physical body.

This is interesting...I never really thought about it much. I think I've just always assumed the spirit and the soul were the same thing, but your post makes a really good point.  

[Hobie_]

On 8/23/2013 at 11:14 AM, Sculelos said:

Biblical support. 

 

Genesis 2:

7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

 

2 Corinthians 5:

1For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. 2For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: 3If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked. 4For we that are in this tabernacle do groan, being burdened: not for that we would be unclothed, but clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. 5Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.

6Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: 7(For we walk by faith, not by sight:) 8We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord. 9Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

Amen.....

[Alan Hales]

On ‎25‎/‎11‎/‎2017 at 4:22 AM, eriphos said:

I see the body and soul interconnected for was Adam was formed from the dust of the earth he became a living soul.  Where the spirit is that part of God within us and was created not formed.  Notice that there is a separation in Genesis of the created and the formed.  

Gen 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

27So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

 28And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

Then we get to the next chapter and who how short or long this period is:

Seventh Day:

Genesis 2:  1Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.

 2And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

Notice this is a totally new day, seventh day.

Gen. 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

One translation says Adam became a talking SPIRIT, God created mankind, Spirit soul and Body. 1 Thess 5: 23. The Greek word for, "Spirit", Is "Pneuma". The Greek word for, "Soul", Is "Pscuche" and the Greek word for "Body", Is "Soma". Three different Greek words, Three different parts of mankind.

[eriphos]

23 hours ago, Alan Hales said:

One translation says Adam became a talking SPIRIT, God created mankind, Spirit soul and Body. 1 Thess 5: 23. The Greek word for, "Spirit", Is "Pneuma". The Greek word for, "Soul", Is "Pscuche" and the Greek word for "Body", Is "Soma". Three different Greek words, Three different parts of mankind.

I like that

[DJ7]

We are spirit and body.

When the spirit enters the body the soul is created. The soul is the joining of the two which produces our will, mind, emotions, the seat of our personality, the "who we are" 

This joining of soul and spirit from then on can never be separated. We become a living soul through the spirit. 

This can never be undone from then until eternity. ONLY GOD can destroy both body and soul in hell, which shows you have body of flesh but it's a spiritual flesh body.

So the three part isn't really a three part because the soul is the joining of spirit and body and isn't actually a part as body and spirit but is personality, emotions, will etc. These are not another part but a combination of the two. 

As an example, you make a cake by mixing ingredients and the result is a cake.

By mixing a spirit with a body the result is the soul.

 

[The Anointed]

On ‎3‎/‎31‎/‎2018 at 9:36 AM, DJ7 said:

We are spirit and body.

When the spirit enters the body the soul is created. The soul is the joining of the two which produces our will, mind, emotions, the seat of our personality, the "who we are" 

This joining of soul and spirit from then on can never be separated. We become a living soul through the spirit. 

This can never be undone from then until eternity. ONLY GOD can destroy both body and soul in hell, which shows you have body of flesh but it's a spiritual flesh body.

So the three part isn't really a three part because the soul is the joining of spirit and body and isn't actually a part as body and spirit but is personality, emotions, will etc. These are not another part but a combination of the two. 

As an example, you make a cake by mixing ingredients and the result is a cake.

By mixing a spirit with a body the result is the soul.

 

You are body, soul and spirit. Your body is created from the universal elements, and it is activated by the universal soul, which is the divine animating principle that pervades the entire universal body, activating everything within the universe, from the wave particles to the subatomic particles that make up the atoms which are the building blocks of the molecules from which the universal body is created. It is to the universal soul=LIFE-FORCE, that all information = SPIRIT is gathered.

“YOU,” as a human being, are Body, Soul and Spirit, but “YOU” the invisible mind, are spirit. The body in which you, [The mind] are developing as the supreme head and controller of that body, is made up of the universal elements, which is activated by the soul [Animating life force] to which all the spirit [gathered information] of all your ancestors, human and pre-human has been gathered in its evolution to become who you are, and that parental spirit dwells behind the veil of the flesh to the inner most sanctuary of its temporary earthly tabernacle=tent, which is your physical body, as it awaits the creation of its glorious temple of incorruptible Light. [THE SON OF MAN]

If that body in which your parental spirit dwells, were born without the sense of sight, hearing, smell, taste, touch, etc, then no information whatsoever could be taken into the brain, and “YOU” who are spirit [Gathered information] could never have begun to develop and the living body, in which the parental spirit dwells, would soon die, never having developed a personality = “CONTROLLING GODHEAD” to that body, which godhead should be an obedient servant to “WHO YOU ARE.” 

When the body in which YOU [The Mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body, "Skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter, etc" has returned to the elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather a facsimile of YOU=The Mind=Spirit that has been imprinted onto the universal life-force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity. Unless of course the information=Spirit that is YOU, is then divided from the universal life force, which is the second death. For the spirit can be divided from the universal soul, Hebrews 4: 12...…. "For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and Spirit." 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 30, 2018 by The Anointed
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[DJ7]

16 minutes ago, The Anointed said:

When the body in which YOU [The Mind] are being formed, dies, [This is the first death] and your body, "Skin, flesh, muscle, blood, bone, brain matter, etc" has returned to the elements from which it was created, all that remains, is a shadow or rather a facsimile of YOU=The Mind=Spirit that has been imprinted onto the universal life-force=soul, from which it will be resurrected in the next cycle of universal activity. Unless of course the information=Spirit that is YOU, is then divided from the universal life force, which is the second death. For the spirit can be divided from the universal soul, Hebrews 4: 12...…. "For the word of God is alive and active, sharper than any two edged sword. It cuts all the way through to the division of the soul and Spirit." 

Actually no.

We are spirit and the mind is not the spirit part but the soul part.

The mind will emotions etc - the seat of who we are is the soul part of who we are.

When the verse says to the dividing of soul and spirit, it doesn't mean they can be separated in the way your saying, only that the word of God can divide between that which is soulical and that which is of spirit.

The soul area is the working realm of Satan. If you think the soul is some universal life force you are very mistaken. The devil works in the soul area.

The anti christ will be a superman who's power will operate from the soul of him. 

So the anti christ will deceive the world through the working of his soul power, or as you call it, universal life force.

If you read 2nd Corinthians you will see that the devil works in the area of his power, which is the soul.

When our flesh dies what is left is the REAL us which is the spirit. This flesh is just a casing so we can interact with the world we live in. The spirit can never die. That is the real part of who we are. Our spirit is not some shadow of our former body. 

Universal soul/life force is new age philosophy which is of the devil.