Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 In the Greek translation all the words that say cross in the Bible in English are translated to tree in Greek. (Or so I think from what I've read) The God of our fathers raised Jesus from the dead -- whom you had killed by hanging him on a CROSS/TREE (Acts 5:30, NIV). The God of our fathers raised up Jesus, whom ye slew and hanged on a CROSS/TREE (Acts 5:30, KJV). It was the God of our ancestors who raised up Jesus, but it was you who had him executed by hanging on a CROSS/TREE (Acts 5:30, Jerusalem Bible). We are witnesses of everything he did in the country of the Jews and in Jerusalem. They killed him by hanging him on a CROSS/TREE...(Acts 10:39, NIV). And we are witnesses of all things which he did both in the land of the Jews, and in Jerusalem; whom they slew and hanged on a CROSS/TREE (Acts 10:39, KJV). Now I, and those with me, can witness to everything he did throughout the countryside of Judaea and in Jerusalem itself: and also to the fact that they killed him by hanging him on a CROSS/TREE (Acts 10:39, Jerusalem Bible). When they had carried out all that was written about him, they took him down from the CROSS/TREE and laid him in a tomb (Acts 13:29, NIV). When they had carried out everything that scripture foretells about him they took him down from the CROSS/TREE and buried him in a tomb (Acts 13:29, Jerusalem Bible). And when they had fulfilled all that was written of him, they took him down from the CROSS/TREE, and laid him in a sepulchre (Acts 13:29, KJV). Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a CROSS/TREE” (Galatians 3:13, NIV). Christ redeemed us from the curse of the Law by being cursed for our sake, since scripture says: Cursed be everyone who is hanged on a CROSS/TREE (Galatians 3:13, Jerusalem Bible). Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a CROSS/TREE (Galatians 3:13, KJV). He himself bore our sins in his body on the CROSS/TREE...(1 Peter 2:24, NIV). Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the CROSS/TREE...(1 Peter 2:24, KJV). The Greek word xulou (or xulon) is translated “tree” in each of the above passages. This Greek word refers to a LIVING TREE -- not a Roman cross... Thoughts anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,991 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,689 Content Per Day: 11.82 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 The Romans used crosses,poles and stakes.I do not think we can verify that Jesus actually died on a cross.The Jehovah Witnesses do not believe that Jesus died on a Cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 The Romans used crosses,poles and stakes.I do not think we can verify that Jesus actually died on a cross.The Jehovah Witnesses do not believe that Jesus died on a Cross. I didn't know that about the Jehovahs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted August 25, 2013 But in other scriptures it talks about the cross of Jesus Christ. Paul said He gloried in the Cross of Jesus. I believe it was a literal cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 But in other scriptures it talks about the cross of Jesus Christ. Paul said He gloried in the Cross of Jesus. I believe it was a literal cross. It's what I always believed as well, but now this Greek translation of a cross confuses me a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 But in other scriptures it talks about the cross of Jesus Christ. Paul said He gloried in the Cross of Jesus. I believe it was a literal cross. It's what I always believed as well, but now these verses confuse me a bit. Do you think they mean a metaphorical tree? Or was a cross also called a tree back then? Hey Rustyangel (I just love that name lol) Well you have Abraham laying the wood on Isaac (Son of promise), Moses putting the serpent on a pole (lifted up) being the ensign signifying what death Christ would die (he who knew no sin was made sin for us). Christ on a tree. Which is the same word for "staves" and also defined as wood. You can see them all signifying the same thing, Christ crucified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Note: In the English translated Bible it says "Cross" but in the Greek translation the Greek word xulou (or xulon) (Which is translated to cross in English) is translated to “tree” in each of the above passages. This Greek word refers to a living tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I believe it to be a cross. But to me it doesn't matter, He suffered , died for my sins and rose again and because of His grace I'm saved and want to be His light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I cant tell who I was quoting, I thought it was Rustyangel, so forgive me if I couldn't discern that rightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~candice~ Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.89 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 This might help http://carm.org/jesus-die-on-cross-or-tree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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