~candice~ Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 5 Topic Count: 955 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 11,318 Content Per Day: 1.90 Reputation: 448 Days Won: 33 Joined: 12/16/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 He died, and He rose again. Is this mountain worth dying on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,989 Topics Per Day: 0.49 Content Count: 48,687 Content Per Day: 11.89 Reputation: 30,342 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 25, 2013 This might help http://carm.org/jesus-die-on-cross-or-tree Thank you Candice, that pretty much clears it up. I think I might've gotten my info from a Jehova's witness site by accident, because like Bopeep mentioned that's what they believe. What happened was that someone (in another thread) mentioned that Christ died on a tree or something of that nature. So I quickly researched it online, and that was the first information that popped up. But, it could've been a Jehovah witness site... That is an interesting read but that is not what I read on a very reliable source.How can we know for sure?We were not there.But like Rusty said "Does it matter?". The only thing it would change would be that people would start wearing trees instead of crosses . Although, in a metaphorical way, the image of a tree of life seems appealing to my eyes. The blood of Jesus dripping down its roots to save the world... (I'm kind of an artist so don't mind me lol) Our Christian Faith centers on a Cross.They are everywhere.It does not matter to me.All that matters to me is that Jesus Christ died for me shed His blood and took away my sins.......period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 This might help http://carm.org/jesus-die-on-cross-or-tree Thank you Candice, that pretty much clears it up. I think I might've gotten my info from a Jehova's witness site by accident, because like Bopeep mentioned that's what they believe. What happened was that someone (in another thread) mentioned that Christ died on a tree or something of that nature. So I quickly researched it online, and that was the first information that popped up. But, it could've been a Jehovah witness site... That is an interesting read but that is not what I read on a very reliable source.How can we know for sure?We were not there.But like Rusty said "Does it matter?". The only thing it would change would be that people would start wearing trees instead of crosses . Although, in a metaphorical way, the image of a tree of life seems appealing to my eyes. The blood of Jesus dripping down its roots to save the world... (I'm kind of an artist so don't mind me lol) Our Christian Faith centers on a Cross.They are everywhere.It does not matter to me.All that matters to me is that Jesus Christ died for me shed His blood and took away my sins.......period. Of course and there is no arguing about that, but it wasn't the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 This might help http://carm.org/jesus-die-on-cross-or-tree Thank you Candice, that pretty much clears it up. I think I might've gotten my info from a Jehova's witness site by accident, because like Bopeep mentioned that's what they believe. What happened was that someone (in another thread) mentioned that Christ died on a tree or something of that nature. So I quickly researched it online, and that was the first information that popped up. But, it could've been a Jehovah witness site... That is an interesting read but that is not what I read on a very reliable source.How can we know for sure?We were not there.But like Rusty said "Does it matter?". What did you read if you don't mind me asking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Paul quotes the OT in Gal 3:13 saying "it is written". So if you take it back to the Hebrew from where he is quoting you can see the same word tree (as mine is translated) used also for tree 162 times as well as wood 107 times So do you believe it was a tree or a cross? I just see it as wood, which in the OT (Paul quotes) falls under the same word used for both tree and wood See the numbers are the same for both words? Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood 6086 of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son Duet 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree 6086: His being a cross Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 Paul quotes the OT in Gal 3:13 saying "it is written". So if you take it back to the Hebrew from where he is quoting you can see the same word tree (as mine is translated) used also for tree 162 times as well as wood 107 times So do you believe it was a tree or a cross? I just see it as wood, which in the OT (Paul quotes) falls under the same word used for both tree and wood See the numbers are the same for both words? Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood 6086 of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son Duet 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree 6086: His being a cross Aahh I see what you mean now, thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Paul quotes the OT in Gal 3:13 saying "it is written". So if you take it back to the Hebrew from where he is quoting you can see the same word tree (as mine is translated) used also for tree 162 times as well as wood 107 times So do you believe it was a tree or a cross? I just see it as wood, which in the OT (Paul quotes) falls under the same word used for both tree and wood See the numbers are the same for both words? Gen 22:6 And Abraham took the wood 6086 of the burnt offering, and laid it upon Isaac his son Duet 21:22 And if a man have committed a sin worthy of death, and he be to be put to death , and thou hang him on a tree 6086: His being a cross Aahh I see what you mean now, thank you. Sure bro, no problem. We can call it a cross (more specifically) but wood or a tree works just as well. God bless you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I just looked up the meaning of: xulou / xulon in the Greek Bible which is used instead of "cross" and the translation of this word means "wood". So whoever translated that word in the thread I posted wasn't correct. And Jehovah witness believe He died on a stake and not on a tree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AFlameOfFire Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 (edited) Yeah, the cross is just made of wood or a tree. So being crucified on the cross is still as one (on either) wood or a tree the cross is made from. Edited August 25, 2013 by AFlameOfFire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted August 25, 2013 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 ....................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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