myab Posted October 8, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1984 Share Posted October 8, 2013 In Mathew 7:15-20 it says by their fruits u shall know them.... Does that give anyone in anyway the go ahead to judge others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAServant Posted October 8, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 19 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2013 There is a difference between discerning (you shall know them) and judging. discern = perceive or recognize (something). judge = form an opinion or conclusion about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addai Posted October 8, 2013 Group: Junior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 85 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 20 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/27/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/07/1967 Share Posted October 8, 2013 (edited) In Mathew 7:15-20 it says by their fruits u shall know them.... Does that give anyone in anyway the go ahead to judge others? You need to draw the difference between judging in terms of condemning someone vs. "exercising discernment", prudence etc. Clearly we are not to condemn people. We should not show contempt for them etc. But that doesn't mean we have to accept their actions, associate with them, or agree with them when we have serious doubts about their spiritual condition coming from their actions. God gave us a brain and our senses for such things after all. Edited October 8, 2013 by Addai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebula Posted October 8, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.97 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted October 8, 2013 There's a difference between "judging" and "pointing fingers." We tend to use the two interchangeably. But in actually we all "judge" everything. For instance, I judge that the weather today is cool. The question is what it is you are judging and how you are judging and what you are basing your judgement on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted October 8, 2013 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted October 8, 2013 Blessings Everyone! Nicely put Addai and I am not quite sure if I have welcomed you myab to Worthy ,I am very glad you are here....Yes I agree with Addai that in judging another or their actions if it is in terms of condemning .....it is okay to "use" our judgement by what we observe but definately not to take a position of condemnation.........the best way is to always pray and walk in spirit & in truth...we should ask for discernment from the Holy Spirit and for Wisdom to do all things according to Gods Will & what He would have us to do....this scripture can also tell us alot about teachers & preachers,everyone that we come in contact with With love,in Christ-Kwik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myab Posted October 9, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1984 Author Share Posted October 9, 2013 Thanks everyone its just that I heard the pastor say some time ago band realize that it could not be right....son decided to ask u guys. Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DRS81 Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 In Mathew 7:15-20 it says by their fruits u shall know them.... Does that give anyone in anyway the go ahead to judge others? Not judge, but rather teach them the truth. Then you allow God to work in their hearts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwin Posted October 18, 2013 Group: Junior Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 35 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 147 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 28 Days Won: 0 Joined: 03/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted October 18, 2013 Thank you myab for your topic.You ask,In Mathew 7:15-20 it says by their fruits u shall know them.... Does that give anyone in anyway the go ahead to judge others?This brought to mind the following, which I trust will be of help.Bless you.Edwin.Subject: How to bear the fruit of the Spirit.Have a look at the following,Due 28:4 Blessed shall be the fruit of your womb and the fruit of your ground and the fruit of your cattle, the increase of your herds and the young of your flock.Gal 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,Gal 5:23 gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.Both refer to, "fruit", one is psychical, and the other spiritual. The first refers to babies, and the second to the work of the Holy Spirit.Why do you think Jesus is described as the Bridegroom, and the Church as the bride of Christ ?How things happen in the psychical world, are an indication of how God intends things to happen in the spiritual world.How does a woman who wishes to bear the fruit of her womb, manage this ?By surrendering herself to the man she loves, and allowing him to implant his seed in her.How does a Christian who wishes to bear the fruit of the Spirit, manage this ?By surrendering himself/herself continually to the Man he/she loves, Jesus, and allowing Him to implant His seed (the Holy Spirit) in him/her, Who continually bears fruit.Eph 5:18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit,Note: This verse is written in the present continual tense, and therefore, “be filled with the Spirit”, is better rendered as, “be, being filled with the Spirit”.Now you see how it's done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myab Posted October 19, 2013 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 7 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/05/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/18/1984 Author Share Posted October 19, 2013 Thank you so much Edwin I must say well detailed answer. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted October 19, 2013 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.01 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted October 19, 2013 We need to read more of the verses to see who Jesus was talking about and under what conditions. It is always best when posting scripture for when you are looking for an answer, that you do this. Mat 7:15 "Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves. Mat 7:16 You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Mat 7:17 So, every healthy tree bears good fruit, but the diseased tree bears bad fruit. Mat 7:18 A healthy tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a diseased tree bear good fruit. Mat 7:19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Mat 7:20 Thus you will recognize them by their fruits. Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?' Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.' Are we to judge these false prophets? No, but we are told to beware of them and 7:23 informs us of their fate. But then again, I see nothing wrong in correcting a false prophet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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