Could the Dome of the Rock sit where the tree of Evil was?

[OakWood]

 

 

 

 

Gen 2:10 - A river watering the garden flowed from Eden, from there it was separated into four headwaters. v 11 - The first Pishon, the second Gihon (it winds through the entire land of Cush (Ethiopia), the third is the Tigris, the fourth is the Euphrates.

 

Not necessarily. The river near where I live flows from the Umfolozi Game reserve, hence it's name Umfolozi, but it's source is in Vryheid (Freedom in Afrikaans), which is many miles away.

 

We need to allow for poetic licence in some scriptures, there is nothing wrong with that, and could just be the authors interpretation (instead of saying through Eden, especially if he had never been to the other side of Eden. To him it would then make sense to write "from")

 

 

Fez

 

I see geography here, not poetic license.  Geographical landmarks.  Did Abraham really come from Ur of the Chaldeans, or is this poetic license.  The first river is Pishon, it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold.  I don't see any license here to go left or right, I only see absolute fact.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

 

Either way, am I right in saying that it is still a plausible theory that the Tree of Life could be located on the same site as Jerusalem and more specifically the Temple Mount?

 

 

WW

 

You are absolutely correct.  It is very, very pause able.  It seems that everything began there, the former tree of life and all will end there, the new tree of life.  Gen 14:18 - Then Melchizedek king of Salem (Jerusalem) brought out bread and wine.  He was priest of God Most High, and he blessed Abram saying, "Blessed be Abram by God Most High, Creator of heaven and earth, and blessed be God Most High, who delivered your enemies into your hand".  Then Abram gave him a tenth of everything.  Jerusalem but more so The Temple Mount is probably the most sacred site on earth.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

 

My thoughts about the Dome of the Rock came about after reading Ellis Skolfield's book - Islam and the End Times. He believes that the Muslim failure to build their mosque on top of the Jewish temple remains was a deliberate act by God to keep his holy spot from desecration, which of course is extremely plausible, but after thinking about the tree of knowledge, I couldn't help feeling that it was Satan's very own tree (the counterfeit to the tree of Life) and we all know that Satan tries to copy God and he will always have his own little alternative version of everything that God does. If he was unable to build a temple on God's spot then he would build it elsewhere - but why so close? Why only a few yards away? That's what made me wonder if the Dome of the Rock stood on the site of Satan's tree.

It's interesting that God told Adam and Eve that the Tree of Knowledge leads to death, and sure enough, Islam does, whereas the Temple Mount leads to life, firstly as it's source of redemption for the Jewish people and eventually as the site of Christ's throne when he finally rules the Earth. God must have built some sort of portal there and Satan in his attempt to match him built his own false portal next to it.

Satan now has his own shrine whilst God's lies demolished, but it is only a matter of time before the reverse will come true.

[Fez]

 

 

Gen 2:10 - A river watering the garden flowed from Eden, from there it was separated into four headwaters. v 11 - The first Pishon, the second Gihon (it winds through the entire land of Cush (Ethiopia), the third is the Tigris, the fourth is the Euphrates.

 

Not necessarily. The river near where I live flows from the Umfolozi Game reserve, hence it's name Umfolozi, but it's source is in Vryheid (Freedom in Afrikaans), which is many miles away.

 

We need to allow for poetic licence in some scriptures, there is nothing wrong with that, and could just be the authors interpretation (instead of saying through Eden, especially if he had never been to the other side of Eden. To him it would then make sense to write "from")

 

 

Fez

 

I see geography here, not poetic license.  Geographical landmarks.  Did Abraham really come from Ur of the Chaldeans, or is this poetic license.  The first river is Pishon, it winds through the entire land of Havilah, where there is gold.  I don't see any license here to go left or right, I only see absolute fact.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

That's what is amazing about scripture, it can talk to us in different ways. Not talking about Abraham here, talking about poetic licence. 

[Montana Marv]

Islam and the Hebrew nation cannot coexist together on a equal basis.  One needs to see what the Koran says; example; The Jews are nothing but dogs and pigs, only to be killed.  For Muslims to follow an Islamic A/C, this A/C must follow what is written in the Koran, and that is to kill all Jews.

 

In Biblical Scripture we see the opposite, the A/C makes or confirms an agreement with many (nations) for one week (one seven).  In the middle of this week he suspends all sacrifice and offerings, and sets up an A/D in the holy place (to the Jew).  There must be a Jewish Temple there for this to happen, again very anti Muslim.

 

All I can do is but refer to King Neby's statue and what history has revealed.  Babylon, the head of Gold;  Meads and Persians, the chest and arms of Silver; Greece,Bronze thighs; Rome, legs of iron, and its feet partly of of iron and partly of baked clay.  Dan 2:35c - But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

 

This is my view, for I do not see a Muslim influence after the war of Ezk 38 and 39.  Israel buries the bodies of those who attacked Israel for 7 months and burns their weapons of war for 7 years.  This war can only happen before the 70th week.  Most of the Islamic world is in on this attack.  5/6ths of them die.  With this happening, how can they be a dominant force.  Those who live go home with their tails between their legs.  Total humiliation.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

[OakWood]

Islam and the Hebrew nation cannot coexist together on a equal basis.  One needs to see what the Koran says; example; The Jews are nothing but dogs and pigs, only to be killed.  For Muslims to follow an Islamic A/C, this A/C must follow what is written in the Koran, and that is to kill all Jews.

 

In Biblical Scripture we see the opposite, the A/C makes or confirms an agreement with many (nations) for one week (one seven).  In the middle of this week he suspends all sacrifice and offerings, and sets up an A/D in the holy place (to the Jew).  There must be a Jewish Temple there for this to happen, again very anti Muslim.

 

All I can do is but refer to King Neby's statue and what history has revealed.  Babylon, the head of Gold;  Meads and Persians, the chest and arms of Silver; Greece,Bronze thighs; Rome, legs of iron, and its feet partly of of iron and partly of baked clay.  Dan 2:35c - But the rock that struck the statue became a huge mountain and filled the whole earth.

 

This is my view, for I do not see a Muslim influence after the war of Ezk 38 and 39.  Israel buries the bodies of those who attacked Israel for 7 months and burns their weapons of war for 7 years.  This war can only happen before the 70th week.  Most of the Islamic world is in on this attack.  5/6ths of them die.  With this happening, how can they be a dominant force.  Those who live go home with their tails between their legs.  Total humiliation.

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

I agree with this. My original thoughts were that Islam was the religion of the Beast, but the Ezekiel Gog Magog suggests the complete destruction of Islam (or near enough destroyed to have no significant power).

However, the Dome of the Rock does not have to play a role in the End Times, nor does anything Muslim. Satan's spot (the tree of knowledge) may do though (although it may not). The Dome is merely the place that marks the spot at this moment. What marks the same spot in the future may be something else if we assume that the mosque gets destroyed before then.

Of course, another possible theory is that the Kaaba in Mecca lies on the spot where the tree of knowledge was, but that's too far away for both trees to have been in the centre of the garden, so I'll give that theory a miss as it seems rather unlikely.

[Montana Marv]

WW

 

The Dome on the Rock

 

There are variables here:

 

The Dome can stay and a Jewish Temple to be built next to it.  Thus making Jerusalem an international city and controlled by the UN or another agency of the Beast.

 

The Dome collapses on its own and this ignites the war of Ezk 38 and 39.  Then the Jewish Temple can be built anywhere on the mount.  There must be direct access to the Temple from the East Gate.  The gate which Christ must go through to fulfill prophecy (Ezk 44)

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

[OakWood]

WW

 

The Dome on the Rock

 

There are variables here:

 

The Dome can stay and a Jewish Temple to be built next to it.  Thus making Jerusalem an international city and controlled by the UN or another agency of the Beast.

 

The Dome collapses on its own and this ignites the war of Ezk 38 and 39.  Then the Jewish Temple can be built anywhere on the mount.  There must be direct access to the Temple from the East Gate.  The gate which Christ must go through to fulfill prophecy (Ezk 44)

 

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

Once again, I agree. Lots of outcomes are possible, but my theory that the Dome is built on the site of the tree of knowledge is not an absolute, nor is it meant to be part of End Times prophecy, it's just an observation. I just wondered if anybody thought that it was plausible.

[ayin jade]

One part of what you posted originally referred to a tree of evil, or satan's tree. The devil had no tree in the garden. Everything made there was called good by God. Not evil. Satan held nothing.

[OakWood]

One part of what you posted originally referred to a tree of evil, or satan's tree. The devil had no tree in the garden. Everything made there was called good by God. Not evil. Satan held nothing.

 

Are you sure about that? Even if it wasn't the Devil's tree, it was the tree that he (Satan) really wanted Adam and Eve to eat from. It was the tree that Satan was hoping that man would steal the fruit from, and therefore you could class it as the Devil's tree. Even if Satan did not create it, nor even think of creating it, it was his tree purely because of what it symbolised and because it would help his cause towards beating God. I'm not wrong to call it the tree of Evil. Once Eve took a bite from the fruit that grew on it, that was one point to Satan and zero points to God.

At that point Satan owned that tree and I would be free to say that he has owned it ever since!

[other one]

 

One part of what you posted originally referred to a tree of evil, or satan's tree. The devil had no tree in the garden. Everything made there was called good by God. Not evil. Satan held nothing.

 

Are you sure about that? Even if it wasn't the Devil's tree, it was the tree that he (Satan) really wanted Adam and Eve to eat from. It was the tree that Satan was hoping that man would steal the fruit from, and therefore you could class it as the Devil's tree. Even if Satan did not create it, nor even think of creating it, it was his tree purely because of what it symbolised and because it would help his cause towards beating God. I'm not wrong to call it the tree of Evil. Once Eve took a bite from the fruit that grew on it, that was one point to Satan and zero points to God.

At that point Satan owned that tree and I would be free to say that he has owned it ever since!

 

Paul asked a group of people who were having a problem taking each other to court a very important question.   

 

"Do you not know that we will judge the Angels?"           I would say that God put the tree in the garden to give mankind the ability to judge the Angels, and while it's a bit of poetic justice that it's the old devil himself that talked Eve into giving the fruit to Adam, It served Gods overall purpose.

 

So I would disagree about the points.....  I think it is really God one and the devil maybe even less than 0.  In terms of chess one might call "Check"  and throughout history every time Lucifer makes a move I hear that same word......  "Check"

 

Soon we will hear,  Check Mate......    what a day that will be

[Guest man]

 

One part of what you posted originally referred to a tree of evil, or satan's tree. The devil had no tree in the garden. Everything made there was called good by God. Not evil. Satan held nothing.

 

Are you sure about that? Even if it wasn't the Devil's tree, it was the tree that he (Satan) really wanted Adam and Eve to eat from. It was the tree that Satan was hoping that man would steal the fruit from, and therefore you could class it as the Devil's tree. Even if Satan did not create it, nor even think of creating it, it was his tree purely because of what it symbolised and because it would help his cause towards beating God. I'm not wrong to call it the tree of Evil. Once Eve took a bite from the fruit that grew on it, that was one point to Satan and zero points to God.

At that point Satan owned that tree and I would be free to say that he has owned it ever since!

 

 

 

Actually you are.

 

Genesis 2

9And out of the ground the Lord God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

 

 

 

There's a big difference between a Tree of Knowledge and a Tree of Evil.