AT7iLA Posted February 15, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 17 Content Per Day: 0.00 Reputation: 1 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/21/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted February 15, 2014 Study the bible through prayer then find a bible based church that teach what the bible teach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Francis Drake Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 There are many churches to choose from, so it's a matter of visiting churches until you find one that blesses you. We do need each other for strength, fellowship, and encouragement. We also need to hear the teaching of God's Word. Hebrews 10:24-25 KJV And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the scripture that gets routinely quoted to make those who don't go to church feel guilty. However if you examine the words, you will see that it is a good reason to avoid most churches. Sitting in rows, is hardly an assembling of ourselves together. It is just sitting in a classroom waiting on the beloved leader for his awesome words. How often do you ever witness any provoking one another to love and good works. Again most just listen to the leader whilst he orchestrates everything, trying to get us on board with his "exciting" program. How often do we see anyone exhorting another pew filler? Scripture makes it plain that the ministry of an assembly should be done by all the members as they listen to what the Holy Spirit wants to bring. There is no biblical support for the institute of church as we see it today. That's why I stopped going to church many years ago, and just meet with a small handful who listen to God and want to grow in the Holy Spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adsy86 Posted February 22, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 6 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 49 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) There are many churches to choose from, so it's a matter of visiting churches until you find one that blesses you. We do need each other for strength, fellowship, and encouragement. We also need to hear the teaching of God's Word. Hebrews 10:24-25 KJV And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This is the scripture that gets routinely quoted to make those who don't go to church feel guilty. However if you examine the words, you will see that it is a good reason to avoid most churches. Sitting in rows, is hardly an assembling of ourselves together. It is just sitting in a classroom waiting on the beloved leader for his awesome words. How often do you ever witness any provoking one another to love and good works. Again most just listen to the leader whilst he orchestrates everything, trying to get us on board with his "exciting" program. How often do we see anyone exhorting another pew filler? Scripture makes it plain that the ministry of an assembly should be done by all the members as they listen to what the Holy Spirit wants to bring. There is no biblical support for the institute of church as we see it today. That's why I stopped going to church many years ago, and just meet with a small handful who listen to God and want to grow in the Holy Spirit. Hebrews 10:24-25 (NLT) "Let us think of ways to motivate one another to acts of love and good works. And let us not neglect our meeting together, as some people do, but encourage one another, especially now that the day of his return is drawing near." Sitting in rows has no correlation to assembling together as·sem·ble verb (of people) gather together in one place for a common purpose. If you've never been to a church where there's been encouragement, no gathering, then you must be going to the wrong places. You were quoting the person saying that the verse is an excuse but your response seems like an excuse as well without an actual biblical foundation with context. It doesn't say "you HAVE to go to church" - but the Bible teaches us that we're not mean to do life alone and that there is power where there is gathering under God's name plus teaching His Word. Some people don't like to go to church cuz they don't wanna submit to what leaders (appointed by God) want to implement because it doesn't sit well with them, and that deals more with pride and issues with the heart rather than "this church is no good". Plus saying "meeting with a handful who listen to God" is kinda like saying "we actually hear from God, not from some dumb pastor" and that is taking away God's power through people and what he wants to say. We don't HAVE to do it, but it definitely helps the body as a whole as Jesus always encouraged to encourage each other and build each other. If we were meant to stay together and not have assemblies, the church would had never been created and Jesus would had never said that he'd build it. Again, that is up to the individual, a small gathering as as much power as a big one, but God's Word and power always attacks people one way or the other, and it's better to do life with people who were appointed by God to do life with you than go through it alone, and build His house to welcome other people. Edited February 22, 2014 by Adsy86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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