FresnoJoe Posted July 18, 2015 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 208 Topic Count: 60 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 8,651 Content Per Day: 1.17 Reputation: 5,761 Days Won: 4 Joined: 01/31/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/04/1943 Share Posted July 18, 2015 he also has dominion over the kings of the earth and their territories, right now. ~ Beloved, Then they gathered around him and asked him, "Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?" Acts 1:6 (NIV) When Jesus Returns To Jerusalem "Men of Galilee," they said, "why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven." Acts 1:11 (NIV) The Whole World Will Know The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can withstand it?” Revelation 6:14-17 (NIV) He Loves Zion She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.” Matthew 1:21 (NIV) Beloved Daughter Of The KING and in this way all Israel will be saved. As it is written: "The deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. Romans 11:26 (NIV) Love, Your Brother Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 18, 2015 If God is King Eternal...and Jesus is sitting at His right hand ....Jesus is PRINCE of Peace. There CANNOT be two Kings in the same place. Jesus SHALL reign as KING of Kings but not while He is in heaven. Jesus is the Lion of Judah but He is not yet King of Judah or Israel until He sits on David's throne nor is He King of kings. That is why Elizabeth is Queen and Charles and Will etc. are Princes. The title King of the Jews forecast Jesus future position on earth. Jesus is awaiting His Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, This verse (Rev 1:5) is telling us who Christ is, including His sovereignty. But we must take all Scripture into account to understand what He is presently doing and what He will accomplish in the future. Christ is presently seated at the right hand of the Father as the Mediator and Advocate of believers, as well as their Great High Priest. But He has not crushed all His enemies under His feet, neither has He established His literal, physical, and perfect reign on this earth as yet. That will only occur at His Second Coming AFTER He deals with the kings of the earth (Rev 19:15-21): 15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. 17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; 18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great. 19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army. 20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone. 21 And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh. If Christ was already ruling over, and controlling the kings of the earth right now, they could not possibly gather against Him in collusion with the Antichrist (the Beast) and Satan at the battle of Armageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 If God is King Eternal...and Jesus is sitting at His right hand ....Jesus is PRINCE of Peace. There CANNOT be two Kings in the same place. Jesus SHALL reign as KING of Kings but not while He is in heaven. Jesus is the Lion of Judah but He is not yet King of Judah or Israel until He sits on David's throne nor is He King of kings. That is why Elizabeth is Queen and Charles and Will etc. are Princes. The title King of the Jews forecast Jesus future position on earth. Jesus is awaiting His Kingdom. Jesus is God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 If God is King Eternal...and Jesus is sitting at His right hand ....Jesus is PRINCE of Peace. There CANNOT be two Kings in the same place. Jesus SHALL reign as KING of Kings but not while He is in heaven. Jesus is the Lion of Judah but He is not yet King of Judah or Israel until He sits on David's throne nor is He King of kings. That is why Elizabeth is Queen and Charles and Will etc. are Princes. The title King of the Jews forecast Jesus future position on earth. Jesus is awaiting His Kingdom. Jesus is God. Yes. I never said He was not..but, He is Prince of Peace. The Trinity tho' One is still separate. Jesus ascended to heaven and sits at the Right hand of the Father who is King of all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 If God is King Eternal...and Jesus is sitting at His right hand ....Jesus is PRINCE of Peace. There CANNOT be two Kings in the same place. Jesus SHALL reign as KING of Kings but not while He is in heaven. Jesus is the Lion of Judah but He is not yet King of Judah or Israel until He sits on David's throne nor is He King of kings. That is why Elizabeth is Queen and Charles and Will etc. are Princes. The title King of the Jews forecast Jesus future position on earth. Jesus is awaiting His Kingdom. Jesus is God. Yes. I never said He was not..but, He is Prince of Peace. The Trinity tho' One is still separate. Jesus ascended to heaven and sits at the Right hand of the Father who is King of all. He is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. I think you are making distinctions that aren't really there. And the Trinity is not separate. There are not three Gods, but one. There are three Divine Persons, ONE BEING. The best explanation I have seen of the Trinity is by Athansius Now this is the true Christian faith: We worship one God in three persons and three persons in one God, without mixing the persons or dividing the divine being. For each person—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit—is distinct, but the deity of Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is one, equal in glory and coeternal in majesty. What the Father is, so is the Son, and so is the Holy Spirit. The Father is uncreated, the Son uncreated, the Holy Spirit uncreated; the Father is infinite, the Son infinite, the Holy Spirit infinite; the Father is eternal, the Son eternal, the Holy Spirit eternal; yet they are not three who are eternal, but there is one who is eternal, just as they are not three who are uncreated, nor three who are infinite, but there is one who is uncreated and one who is infinite. In the same way the Father is almighty, the Son is almighty, and the Holy Spirit is almighty; yet they are not three who are almighty, but there is one who is almighty. So the Father is God, the Son is God, the Holy Spirit is God; yet they are not three Gods, but one God. So the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, the Holy Spirit is Lord; yet they are not three Lords, but one Lord. For just as Christian truth compels us to confess each person individually to be God and Lord, so the true Christian faith forbids us to speak of three Gods or three Lords. The Father is neither made nor created nor begotten of anyone. The Son is neither made nor created, but is begotten of the Father alone. The Holy Spirit is neither made nor created nor begotten, but proceeds from the Father and the Son. So there is one Father, not three Fathers; one Son, not three Sons; one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. And within this Trinity none comes before or after; none is greater or inferior, but all three persons are coequal and coeternal, so that in every way, as stated before, all three persons are to be worshiped as one God and one God worshiped as three persons. Whoever wishes to be saved must have this conviction of the Trinity. And about Jesus: It is furthermore necessary for eternal salvation truly to believe that our Lord Jesus Christ also took on human flesh. Now this is the true Christian faith: We believe and confess that our Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son, is both God and man. He is God, eternally begotten from the nature of the Father, and he is man, born in time from the nature of his mother, fully God, fully man, with rational soul and human flesh, equal to the Father as to his deity, less than the Father as to his humanity; and though he is both God and Man, Christ is not two persons but one, one, not by changing the deity into flesh, but by taking the humanity into God; one, indeed, not by mixture of the natures, but by unity in one person; for just as the rational soul and flesh are one human being, so God and man are one Christ. He suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose the third day from the dead. He ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of God the Father almighty, and from there he will come to judge the living and the dead. At his coming all people will rise with their own bodies to answer for their personal deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, but those who have done evil will go into eternal fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 19, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2015 The Trinity...God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), God the Holy Spirit...Three separate...yet One. If this were not true the Son Jesus could not be sitting at the Right Hand of God the Father who is on His Throne. The Holy Spirit is everywhere sealing those who accept Jesus to be taken in the rapture. My point is...while Jesus is in heaven with the Father He is Prince of Peace the Father is King. Jesus is not physically King of the Jews untilHe ascends the throne of David and is crowned King of the Jews....until all Jews accept Him as their King which they will do. Yo cannot have two kings reigning over the same territory.God the Father is in heaven as is Jesus. No quarrel with Trinity or names just title and authority over dominion. Those part of the commonwealth of nations should understand there is only one king of queen at a time in one land, country or dominion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted July 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2015 The Trinity...God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), God the Holy Spirit...Three separate...yet One. If this were not true the Son Jesus could not be sitting at the Right Hand of God the Father who is on His Throne. The Holy Spirit is everywhere sealing those who accept Jesus to be taken in the rapture. My point is...while Jesus is in heaven with the Father He is Prince of Peace the Father is King. Jesus is not physically King of the Jews untilHe ascends the throne of David and is crowned King of the Jews....until all Jews accept Him as their King which they will do. Yo cannot have two kings reigning over the same territory.God the Father is in heaven as is Jesus. No quarrel with Trinity or names just title and authority over dominion. Those part of the commonwealth of nations should understand there is only one king of queen at a time in one land, country or dominion. I don't believe the scripture supports that Littlelamb In fact, in Rev 1:5 John clearly states Jesus is reigning over the kings of the earth now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2015 But Jesus was named King of the Jews by Pilot.The Jews now have no King and will not have one until they see Jesus as Messiah and He claims His rightful title as King the Son of David yet his God, sitting on David's throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Littlelambseativy Posted July 20, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 230 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 4,941 Content Per Day: 0.95 Reputation: 2,003 Days Won: 14 Joined: 02/08/2010 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2015 Why do we address Jesus as Lord not King, in prayer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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