Hall7 Posted January 10, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 10, 2014 Through the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted January 10, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 Brain is material since it can be produced, seen, felt, dissected etc mind is not material - science dematerialised matter, so in fact brain is just as much  mental as mind is, so communication is possible - we actually and really live in a mental/spiritual world with an illusion of physical/material - there is nothing other than or outside mind - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-seeker Posted January 11, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 589 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/06/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2014 Brain is material since it can be produced, seen, felt, dissected etc mind is not material - science dematerialised matter, so in fact brain is just as much  mental as mind is, so communication is possible - we actually and really live in a mental/spiritual world with an illusion of physical/material - there is nothing other than or outside mind - wincam Hey wincam,  it is an interesting question.  part of the confusion I think is that it is a highly philosophical question, entering into a discussion not with Moses, or Paul or the Bible, but rather with Descartes, or Hobbes, or Kant or Hume.  The question I believe has this as its background: in all our experience matter interacts with matter from billiard balls to cuts on my arm to the even the weather.  When we move from these to the question of how "the will" or "the soul" produces effects on our body (how an act of will can produce "thought" and "reason" via the matter in side of my noggen, or can communicate signals along my nerve fibers which cause my arm to pick up my coffee) we move from the imaginable to the unimaginable.  We can all keep in our heads two picturable things interacting with each other; but we can't imagine one unimaginable thing interacting with another imaginable.  Have I got the basic problem down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningGlory Posted January 11, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1,022 Topics Per Day: 0.16 Content Count: 39,193 Content Per Day: 6.11 Reputation: 9,977 Days Won: 78 Joined: 10/01/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2014 how does brain communicate with mind - especially since materiality and physicality do not exist and their existence is an illusion and a bluff - wincam  You are asking a question from your viewpoint....if materiality and physicality don't exist then 'brain' doesn't exist and, therefore, isn't communicating with anything. There is no question to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted January 11, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 ah ha morning glory - it is exactly the same only different - you are mostly but not completely right - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted January 11, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 yes you are indeed on the right track imho - the answer,however, has troubled and is still troubling the best brains/philosophers in the world - let me tell you then that one of the greatest if not the greatest achievement/s of science was and is the dematerialisation of matter - its existence is an illusion and a bluff - wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-seeker Posted January 12, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 9 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 589 Content Per Day: 0.16 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/06/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted January 12, 2014  how does brain communicate with mind - especially since materiality and physicality do not exist and their existence is an illusion and a bluff - wincam  You are asking a question from your viewpoint....if materiality and physicality don't exist then 'brain' doesn't exist and, therefore, isn't communicating with anything. There is no question to answer.  I agree with morning glory....that is if I understand your position.  Aren't you asking (in reduced terms) how materiality communicates with immateriality if materiality does not actually exist?  The answer is, it doesn't.....it doesn't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wincam Posted January 16, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 24 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 114 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 61 Days Won: 0 Joined: 02/09/2013 Status: Offline Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 (edited) not at all - it does not necessarily follow - try again and don't get anxious for this has troubled the world's best brains over the centuries without an acceptable answer - wincam Edited January 16, 2014 by wincam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hall7 Posted January 25, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 75 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 1,385 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 491 Days Won: 5 Joined: 04/25/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted January 25, 2014 not at all - it does not necessarily follow - try again and don't get anxious for this has troubled the world's best brains over the centuries without an acceptable answer - wincamIf there isn't an acceptable answer and the question has troubled the world's best brains why even ask that question unless you have an answer for us which would make you the best brain in the Universe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted January 29, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,064 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,391 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Online Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Because of our beginning we are! Undoubtedly you will say 'no dah steven your a retard' but limp along with me in this... as the end will bring into the reality of this path that we are in here: The nature of our continuance in knowledge leads us to examination of micro and macro to a degree of intense amounts allowing only for two responses 1. pride or 2. humility (period) but in truth we are no further than when we first began as w(W)ho's holding the scale... pride we hold the scale or humility; humility the scale is held by that outside of self! By the molecular module we learn energy is testified of being neither created or destroyed but that of entropy a passing out of useable form as to life sustainment in such as we are held status quo of the know (poetical don't you think?). Now in this very spot I can safely say that energy is not God but rather the last minute/maximal pointer into the eternal exist That of Spirit a substance of non-reliance upon entity of the formation of energy or any law or boundary or concept but that of Being outside of beginning and end-> that all (that is here) points to but in order to see one must be willing to be nothing so that Everything may realign the conception of hope that is not bound by begin and end but merely is a patience of examination of the 'IS' >a boundless place of non-reliance< (period)... Now for the pride group they have set the demands internally as immediate satisfaction or gratification of sensual perception, of which, we can't be to hard on them they just demand for conclusion (as) that without begin and end is very un-settling to them in this their endeavor as it takes away their very purpose of being that of conclusion! Now for the subject at hand dematerialization "the greatest achievement of mankind" excuse me but it is not hard to understand where this goes that of which standing on the materialized portion pointing and saying (ah ha!) that which is (material) can be undone... however I suggest that death and entropy have done this in a much more eloquent way ... sorry I can't be more optimistic for your enthusiasm of this but being lord over the rocks seems a very small step for anything . I've been doing with them as I will for years- chunking them, piling them, kicking them etc. Now for those who set in the chair of truth witnessing the wonders that come to us everyday in an ever increasing insurgence of fulfilled Word- Dan 12:4 4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased. KJV What a kindness to us whom He Loves we know exactly where we are in regard of His Word! The Word that was before all without begin and formed all that we know written so that we might have the absolute within the eternities of boundless possibilities non bounded by that begin. Wherein we are set free from the tether of reliance upon that corporeal begin and through the vehicle of faith we embrace the realigned hope formed from His Word into His Presence and Good pleasure without the expectation of boundary... Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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