Unarmed FL gunowner pulled over in MD and harrassed

[nebula]

Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland

By Tom Jackson | Tribune Staff

Published: January 12, 2014   |   Updated: January 14, 2014 at 06:11 PM

 

HUDSON – John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

 

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Ten minutes later he's back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

 

“At home in my safe,” John answers.

 

“Don't move,” says the officer.

 

Now he's at the passenger's window. “Your husband owns a gun,” he says. “Where is it?”

 

Full story here

 

 

[nebula]

Problem 1 - If the man was speeding, why did the cop not inform the man at the start that this was the reason he was pulled over?

 

Problem 2 - A legal concealed carriers is treated like a dangerous criminal.

 

Problem 3 - Concealed carriers have their records on file for access like this.

 

Problem 4 - Do the police check records like this before pulling someone over?

 

Problem 5 - You decide.

[The_Patriot21]

im glad wyoming is a constitional carry state-as in, all residents that can legally own a gun, can legally carry it concealed wherever allowed, WITHOUT a permit. I do have mine, mainly because I travel out of state occasionally and it helps when purchasing guns (CCW holders dont have to wait for the background check to purchase a firearm). Its also nice that in wyoming, if Im carrying I don't have to declare it to an officer if pulled over unless asked directly.

 

this is an example of an extreme abuse of power. The guy was following all laws-he had a legal permit, wasnt breaking any gun laws even if he WAS carrying which he wasnt. This is why people hate cops.

[alien224]

Seems like most law enforcement is out to help criminals and make law abiding people out to be hardened criminals.Most policemen are on a power trip. Exactly patriot.

[rjp34652]

The Law Enforcement Officer is under no obligation to protect a citizen. 

In Warren v. District of Columbia [1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981),

the federal court stated that a LEO has no duty to protect a citizen. 

 

In most cases of crime today, police officers show up to document what has already happened, not to prevent or stop crime. 

 

In a growing number of cases, however, unlawful police harassment has been documented.  The liberal progressive agenda is to disarm all law abiding citizens.  It doesn't matter that FBI files indicate more people were murdered in the US from hands, elbows, knees and feet than died from gunfire.  It isn't always about guns, either.

 

Several years ago in the city of Largo, Florida the city police department was accused of soliciting young women during a pull-over.  Ladies on their way to work or on an errand were regularly pulled over and approached by the officer for sex.  At nearly the same time, in that same department, the FBI arrested several cops who were receiving money for trafficking in stolen gasoline transported across state lines.

 

Even the repurchase of guns by police is a bad idea.   In most communities there are programs sponsored by the police to purchase firearms with no questions asked.  TV news shows law abiding citizens standing in line with their rusty old guns.   They smile for the camera and receive fifty dollars or so for their good citizenship.   What is NOT shown is the opportunity for burglars and petty thieves, who've come into possession of stolen guns, to get free payment from the police.   The police thus become a fence for stolen property.

 

In a local community college, a certified police instructor was caught with child porn on the college's computer loaned to him for academic work.  When the college attempted to terminate his employment, the sheriff responded by withdrawing all his people from training programs.  The college had invested heavily in infrastructure to support the special needs of the police students (gun range, labs, vehicle training areas, etc.)  In the end the police walked and the college had to eat both the loss of revenue and the money spent on campus 'improvements'. (A gun range is an improvement?  The neighbors were happy, though.  They didn't have to listen to police gunfire on the range any more.)   

 

In a perfect world, the police would stick to their mandate - to protect and to serve the community.   Far too often, however, the only ones they protect and serve is the blue wall of fellow officers.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

[OakWood]

im glad wyoming is a constitional carry state-as in, all residents that can legally own a gun, can legally carry it concealed wherever allowed, WITHOUT a permit. I do have mine, mainly because I travel out of state occasionally and it helps when purchasing guns (CCW holders dont have to wait for the background check to purchase a firearm). Its also nice that in wyoming, if Im carrying I don't have to declare it to an officer if pulled over unless asked directly.

 

this is an example of an extreme abuse of power. The guy was following all laws-he had a legal permit, wasnt breaking any gun laws even if he WAS carrying which he wasnt. This is why people hate cops.

 

If I lived in the States, I would prefer to live somewhere like Wyoming or maybe Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Idaho or Alaska. I think it would be a mistake to live in a messed-up state like California or New York.

But then again, what do I know? I don't live there.

I do know that I wouldn't care about the climate. Freedom is more important.

[ayin jade]

I should try and find the story, but a few years ago, obama came to az. One citizen showed up with a rifle of some sort. He was permitted to remain with his gun. It is legal to carry it the way he did to public events. Folks (read democrats and obama supporters) were outraged. But he was allowed to remain. He came there to make a point. 

 

Here is one article about it.

 

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/17/obama.protest.rifle/

[Quantrill]

oakwood

 

Indeed, freedom is more important. 

 

Isn't it ironic that Obama/U.S.  doesn't recognize the vote of the Crimean people for seccession from Ukraine and unity with Russia.  Yet years ago that is what Ukraine did to secede from Russia.  And the U.S was extremely forceful in their approval.

 

What a bunch of hypocrits the U. S. has become.

 

Quantrill

Edited March 7, 2014 by Quantrill

[EnochBethany]

 

The Law Enforcement Officer is under no obligation to protect a citizen. 

In Warren v. District of Columbia [1] (444 A.2d. 1, D.C. Ct. of Ap. 1981),

the federal court stated that a LEO has no duty to protect a citizen. 

 

In most cases of crime today, police officers show up to document what has already happened, not to prevent or stop crime. 

 

In a growing number of cases, however, unlawful police harassment has been documented.  The liberal progressive agenda is to disarm all law abiding citizens.  It doesn't matter that FBI files indicate more people were murdered in the US from hands, elbows, knees and feet than died from gunfire.  It isn't always about guns, either.

 

Several years ago in the city of Largo, Florida the city police department was accused of soliciting young women during a pull-over.  Ladies on their way to work or on an errand were regularly pulled over and approached by the officer for sex.  At nearly the same time, in that same department, the FBI arrested several cops who were receiving money for trafficking in stolen gasoline transported across state lines.

 

Even the repurchase of guns by police is a bad idea.   In most communities there are programs sponsored by the police to purchase firearms with no questions asked.  TV news shows law abiding citizens standing in line with their rusty old guns.   They smile for the camera and receive fifty dollars or so for their good citizenship.   What is NOT shown is the opportunity for burglars and petty thieves, who've come into possession of stolen guns, to get free payment from the police.   The police thus become a fence for stolen property.

 

In a local community college, a certified police instructor was caught with child porn on the college's computer loaned to him for academic work.  When the college attempted to terminate his employment, the sheriff responded by withdrawing all his people from training programs.  The college had invested heavily in infrastructure to support the special needs of the police students (gun range, labs, vehicle training areas, etc.)  In the end the police walked and the college had to eat both the loss of revenue and the money spent on campus 'improvements'. (A gun range is an improvement?  The neighbors were happy, though.  They didn't have to listen to police gunfire on the range any more.)   

 

In a perfect world, the police would stick to their mandate - to protect and to serve the community.   Far too often, however, the only ones they protect and serve is the blue wall of fellow officers.

 

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft...

 

I recall seeing a news item where there was like this police gun by-back program.  But someone parked across the street & would pay more for the guns than the cops would!

[EnochBethany]

Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland

By Tom Jackson | Tribune Staff

Published: January 12, 2014   |   Updated: January 14, 2014 at 06:11 PM

 

HUDSON – John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

 

<snip>

 

Ten minutes later he's back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

 

“At home in my safe,” John answers.

 

“Don't move,” says the officer.

 

Now he's at the passenger's window. “Your husband owns a gun,” he says. “Where is it?”

 

Full story here

Unfortunately there is a lot of injustice in the world.  In USA people can be put in jail for quite a while before trial.  So even if they get off, they spent jail time & may well be out of pocket big bucks for their defense.  On the other hand, criminals may get off.

 

Now you would think that cops would behave what with everything being recorded nowadays.  Smile; you're on candid camera.