nebula Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 10 Topic Count: 5,823 Topics Per Day: 0.76 Content Count: 45,870 Content Per Day: 5.95 Reputation: 1,897 Days Won: 83 Joined: 03/22/2003 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1970 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Another puzzle is why Jacob wrestled with the angel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzel Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 12 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 514 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 62 Days Won: 1 Joined: 01/01/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1989 Share Posted February 6, 2014 It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted February 6, 2014 Another puzzle is why Jacob wrestled with the angel. I wasn't going to bring that up..... but it is a good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted February 6, 2014 It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit I don't see that the Bible says that the Holy Spirit helped him..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit I don't see that the Bible says that the Holy Spirit helped him..... I don't think we can overcome angels - Daniel was faint in the presence of the angel who showed him a particular vision/revelation without even touching him! And why would he call an angel God? God is clear in HIs Word however, that He has given us authority to resist the devil, and he WILL flee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think it has to do with the form they show up in.... It's my understanding that they can simply look like you and I, or they can look awesome in our sight. While I have not experienced it, I am friends with some that have seen one or more of the fallen ones in their full light being form and that's very humbling from what they tell me. Carolyn Hamlett was introduced to Lucifer himself at one time in her life among the dark side..... but I'd have to let her tell you about all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted February 6, 2014 Jacob was about to go meet his brother and seemed to be really down..... so maybe God just wanted to brighten up his attitude and build up his self esteem a bit... one can speculate all over the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I have "wrestled" with Jesus over many things over the years...... I have never won any of these matches, but I have on occasion run away, or come out of them a little wiser......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,816 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted February 6, 2014 I have "wrestled" with Jesus over many things over the years...... I have never won any of these matches, but I have on occasion run away, or come out of them a little wiser......... I do fully understand that..... I haven't physically wrestled with him that I know of though... I would say that he has let me win more than one argument ..... disasters as those were.. I did come out of it wiser.... but unlike you I had a long way to go and so I wouldn't express it as a "little" wiser.... LoL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted February 6, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think it has to do with the form they show up in.... It's my understanding that they can simply look like you and I, or they can look awesome in our sight. While I have not experienced it, I am friends with some that have seen one or more of the fallen ones in their full light being form and that's very humbling from what they tell me. Carolyn Hamlett was introduced to Lucifer himself at one time in her life among the dark side..... but I'd have to let her tell you about all that. As has been asked before: why would he call an angel God? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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