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Was the man Jacob wrestled with actually Jesus?


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Another puzzle is why Jacob wrestled with the angel.

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It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings

but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit 

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Another puzzle is why Jacob wrestled with the angel.

I wasn't going to bring that up.....   but it is a good question

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It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings

but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit 

I don't see that the Bible says that the Holy Spirit helped him.....

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It was an angel this was done to shew us that we can overcome spiritual beings

but the question is how was Jacob able to wrestle with an angel only by the power of the Holy Spirit 

I don't see that the Bible says that the Holy Spirit helped him.....

 

 

I don't think we can overcome angels - Daniel was faint in the presence of the angel who showed him a particular vision/revelation without even touching him!  And why would he call an angel God?

 

God is clear in HIs Word however, that He has given us authority to resist the devil, and he WILL flee.

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I think it has to do with the form they show up in....    It's my understanding that they can simply look like you and I, or they can look awesome in our sight.    While I have not experienced it, I am friends with some that have seen one or more of the fallen ones in their full light being form and that's very humbling from what they tell me.   Carolyn Hamlett was introduced to Lucifer himself at one time in her life among the dark side.....    but I'd have to let her tell you about all that.

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Jacob was about to go meet his brother and seemed to be really down.....   so maybe God just wanted to brighten up his attitude and build up his self esteem a bit...  one can speculate all over the place.

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I have "wrestled" with Jesus over many things over the years......

 

I have never won any of these matches, but I have on occasion run away, or come out of them a little wiser......... 

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I have "wrestled" with Jesus over many things over the years......

 

I have never won any of these matches, but I have on occasion run away, or come out of them a little wiser......... 

I do fully understand that.....    I haven't physically wrestled with him that I know of though...  I would say that he has let me win more than one argument .....   disasters as those were..  I did come out of it wiser....    but unlike you I had a long way to go and so I wouldn't express it as a "little" wiser....  LoL

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I think it has to do with the form they show up in....    It's my understanding that they can simply look like you and I, or they can look awesome in our sight.    While I have not experienced it, I am friends with some that have seen one or more of the fallen ones in their full light being form and that's very humbling from what they tell me.   Carolyn Hamlett was introduced to Lucifer himself at one time in her life among the dark side.....    but I'd have to let her tell you about all that.

 

As has been asked before: why would he call an angel God?

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