kwikphilly Posted April 8, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.63 Reputation: 27,807 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2014 Blessings Taken,,,,, God Bless you,you obviously started a good topic that provoked alot of thought from everyone and we all come to reason together & share different views & perspectives........it makes me sad to hear you say you find the forum too"edgy" and are reluvtant to share your opinions,,,,,,,I am sure everyone here would agree to wish to encourage you to go ahead and feel free to voice your opinions,we are all Brothers & Sisters united by our Faith and though we may have different opinions & even interpretations of the Word of God(in non Salvational issues)...this is how we all learn and grow together,there are some things we may never agree on but we will always agree to disagree,love and respect one another..................so please,don't feel as though your opinions are not of value or worth sharing because they are,to all of us With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeinChrist Posted April 8, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 192 Topics Per Day: 0.05 Content Count: 1,393 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 635 Days Won: 4 Joined: 06/29/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 8, 2014 Hello Ted and welcome to Worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donibm Posted April 8, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/09/1974 Share Posted April 8, 2014 Ok, as an intro post I'll ask - where do people get the idea that the fruit from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil was an apple? Genesis 1:29: Then God said, “Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the ]surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you. This verse tells us the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil produced no seeds (which is fitting for something that cannot produce life). Since apples have seeds we know they were not hanging from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil right? I don't know. It's just a saying. Don't take it to heart. I think most ppl know that it wasn't an apple tree. Cause the Tree was singular and unique. Apple trees are not singular and one of a kind. It was a FRUIT. That is all we need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdxp Posted April 19, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 30 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 4 Days Won: 0 Joined: 04/19/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 19, 2014 It was a FRUIT. That is all we need to know. Finally. It's absolutely immaterial what kind of fruit it was. The only thing that matters is the act of disobedience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted April 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted April 19, 2014 It could even have been a fruit that doesn't exist any more. In fact many plants may no longer have existed after the fall of man, and it's possible that many others no longer existed after the flood. With very few exceptions (and even this is debatable), vitamin B12 (cyanocobalamin) is not found in anything other than animal products, yet it is certain that Adam and Eve only ate plant foods. Now their bodies were different anyway but after the fall they became immortal, so it's likely that their bodies and body chemistry changed. It seems likely that everybody after the fall but before the flood is the same sort of human as they are today, but not until after the flood did we eat meat. Maybe antediluvian plants contained B12 and maybe complete balances of amino acids, but since the flood they haven't, which is why God now allows us to eat meat. Remember too, that the fruit of the tree of knowledge was food that we weren't supposed to eat, a type of super-fruit, a fruit that would seem like a completely alien species today, and almost certainly no longer exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 19, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 19, 2014 It could even have been a fruit that doesn't exist any more. The fact that there was only one Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil would eliminate any possibility of it producing itself outside of the Garden of Eden, along with the Tree of Life, once Eden was lost to man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdemoss Posted April 20, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 59 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 4,402 Content Per Day: 0.99 Reputation: 2,154 Days Won: 28 Joined: 02/10/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/26/1971 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I believe there is a case that could be constructed to give circumstantial evidence that would make a solid argument that it was indeed an apple but without a direct statement from God on it it cannot be satisfied to say one way or another for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donibm Posted April 21, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/09/1974 Share Posted April 21, 2014 It was a FRUIT. That is all we need to know. Finally. It's absolutely immaterial what kind of fruit it was. The only thing that matters is the act of disobedience. Indeed. One day, we'll enjoy the fruits of the Trees of Heaven (without having to use the bathroom afterwards. :-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted April 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,047 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,792 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted April 21, 2014 How can you possibly know that. LOL It was a FRUIT. That is all we need to know. Finally. It's absolutely immaterial what kind of fruit it was. The only thing that matters is the act of disobedience. Indeed. One day, we'll enjoy the fruits of the Trees of Heaven (without having to use the bathroom afterwards. :-)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donibm Posted April 21, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 0 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 246 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 44 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/11/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 06/09/1974 Share Posted April 21, 2014 How can you possibly know that. LOL It was a FRUIT. That is all we need to know. Finally. It's absolutely immaterial what kind of fruit it was. The only thing that matters is the act of disobedience. Indeed. One day, we'll enjoy the fruits of the Trees of Heaven (without having to use the bathroom afterwards. :-)) Well, actually, I don't know. It is translated as "fruit", but if you want to be more academically correct, call it "produce". But, that word didn't even exist at the time of this writing ... if you want to get scholarly about it. So, it COULD have been a fruit or vegetable. But, in reality, most fruits grow on a tree or a vine, while many veggies grow on and under the ground. So, chances of it being a fruit is certainly higher. Not really a big deal, but again, if one wants to be absolutely academically safe, call it "produce". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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