Spock Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2014 Very confusing thread. I do not feel the topic of the antichrist has been developed very well. At least salty stated his opinion that he believes satan is the antichrist. I know some believe satan takes over after the abomination of desolation, so I will leave that alone for now. I do not believe the antichrist shall we say before the A of D is satan, but rather a real person like you and I. The bible says he is "an Assyrian." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2014 I think people should decide who/what in Revelation is actually the entity that we would call "the Antichrist" If it's that beast that comes up out of the Bottomless Pit (Abyss) then I personally think that it is a fallen angel. Could be or not Satan. I do have ideas, but they are not out of the Bible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,200 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi Spock, Interesting thoughts you had on the Assyrian. Here is a bit more detail. The Assyrian which will fall by a sword not of man, is the Anti-Christ whom the Lord will destroy when He comes to wage war on Mount Zion. `the Lord of hosts will come down to wage war on Mount Zion ....the Lord of hosts will protect Jerusalem....He will protect & deliver it........& the Assyrian will fall be a sword not of man,.....` (Isa. 31: 4 - 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi Marilyn, I added more details on the rev 13 thread pertaining to the first beast (antichrist). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi Marilyn, I added more details on the rev 13 thread pertaining to the first beast (antichrist). Where's that, because the first 'beast' of Rev.13:1-2 is the kingdom beast. Jesus explained what the waters are that John saw in Rev.17:15. The 2nd beast is the Antichrist, of Rev.13:11 forward... Rev 13:11-12 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.(KJV) If you look closely in that chapter, you'll find that it's the first beast (kingdom) that has the "seven heads", and one of those seven heads suffers the deadly wound that Antichrist comes to heal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 8, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 8, 2014 Hi Marilyn, I added more details on the rev 13 thread pertaining to the first beast (antichrist). Where's that, because the first 'beast' of Rev.13:1-2 is the kingdom beast. Jesus explained what the waters are that John saw in Rev.17:15. The 2nd beast is the Antichrist, of Rev.13:11 forward... Rev 13:11-12 11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon. 12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.(KJV) If you look closely in that chapter, you'll find that it's the first beast (kingdom) that has the "seven heads", and one of those seven heads suffers the deadly wound that Antichrist comes to heal. Interesting thought there salty. Let me read and reread that again. I've always thought that was a PERSON and not a KINGDOM, but let me go back over and ponder it. Thanks. Spock out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted July 12, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2014 The second post in this thread basically puts up the facts about the AC that we all agree on. When, what, who and how the AC is manifested, has many different points of view. Is it possible to identify the AC from those few texts alone? I think it would be fair for any of us to do that, since we all agree and understand those points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted July 12, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2014 From the book of John alone, we can safely conclude that the AC is a spirit which may infect more than one individual, even every spirit which does not confess Christ. And also that it is an individual to the future of the time of John. Verse 23, The AC denies the Father and Son but especially Christ the Son. Verse 19, says that the AC's are apostates, they were once of the believing church but went out, so the AC has a Christian origin gone wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinitron Posted July 12, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 140 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2014 The CIA's World Factbook gives the population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%). So everyone else is Antichrist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradox Posted July 12, 2014 Group: Junior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 75 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 13 Days Won: 0 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 12, 2014 The CIA's World Factbook gives the population as 7,021,836,029 (July 2012 est.) and the distribution of religions as Christian 33.39% (of which Roman Catholic 16.85%, Protestant 6.15%, Orthodox 3.96%, Anglican 1.26%). So everyone else is Antichrist. According to John, the AC has a Christian origin, otherwise it would not be deceptive. "Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof." This agrees with what others have posted about its inception through peaceful means. To a Christian there is nothing deceptive about open demon worship, atheism, hedonism, Islam, Buddhism, Shintoism, etc and anything outside of the name of Christianity. But an impressive and popular religion that upholds the cross and claims to be Christian may be a snare. The AC also permits sin on some level. Not on an obvious level, but subtle. I John 3:4. No one disagrees that the AC is of the devil. I john 3:8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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