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Revelation seems to indicate that the ministry of the Holy Spirit will be absent during the Tribulation. Does this mean that those who become believers during the Tribulation will not be indwelt with the Holy Spirit?

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Revelation seems to indicate that the ministry of the Holy Spirit will be absent during the Tribulation. Does this mean that those who become believers during the Tribulation will not be indwelt with the Holy Spirit?

 

Where does it say that the Holy Spirit will be absent?

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I knew I should've waited to post my question. I am at work without the benefits of Bible tools. Let me search for that passage....or the verses that give that impression.

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Revelation seems to indicate that the ministry of the Holy Spirit will be absent during the Tribulation. Does this mean that those who become believers during the Tribulation will not be indwelt with the Holy Spirit?

I have read that the Holy Spirit will be present during the tribulation.That is a misunderstanding from 2 Thessalonians 2:7 7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He[a] who now restrains will do so until He[b] is taken out of the way.  that the tribulation will be removed.The Holy Spirit is promised to every born-again believer.No where in scripture is that promise taken away.There will be alot of people saved during the tribulation.Without the Holy Spirit that could not happen Revelation 7:9-14.Now is the time to be saved and ask Jesus Christ into your life.You will be Blessed for believing and going to heaven at the Rapture.

 

In Thessalonians 2 8-9 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders we see that restraining power of the Holy Spirit holds back the "lawless one" the antichrist so he is not revealed before God wills it.The passage says the Holy Spirit will not restrain the growth of evil,but that does not mean He will not minister.

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After some reading, I see that I am horribly wrong about the Holy Spirit not being active during the Tribulation; especially during the first half of it. It seems however that during the second half...after the Witnesses are killed and the antichrist kicks into high gear...it might be a time where the Holy Spirit rests (for lack of a better term). Opinions?

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Here is a goodin...

matt 25:7 its about the ten virgins, five were wise, five foolish....

then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

the word trimmed in greek is kosmeo (kos-meh-oh) its where we derive words such as cosmetic. It means to beautify, arrange, decorate, embellish, adorn or put in order. If you study this word it gives an illustration of revival beforw the second coming.

To me this is saying He will be ever present and at work in our lives to sanctify us. Ridding the church of sin.

Dont that just make you hunger? Dont it just make everything in you cry out and say yes Lord please give me that? Glory!!! praise God for His goodness.

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And another ...

acts 2:17 and it shall come to pass in the last days, saithGod, I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. 18) and on my servants and my haindmaidens I will pour out in those days of my spirit and they shall prophesy.

Sounds like to me the Holy Ghost will be quite active.

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After some reading, I see that I am horribly wrong about the Holy Spirit not being active during the Tribulation; especially during the first half of it. It seems however that during the second half...after the Witnesses are killed and the antichrist kicks into high gear...it might be a time where the Holy Spirit rests (for lack of a better term). Opinions?

At some point which God only knows the timing the restraining influence of the Holy Spirit will be removed,the anti-christ will be revealed and the tribulation period will begin.

Another reason why the Holy Spirit will not be removed is because He is omnipresent.

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After some reading, I see that I am horribly wrong about the Holy Spirit not being active during the Tribulation; especially during the first half of it. It seems however that during the second half...after the Witnesses are killed and the antichrist kicks into high gear...it might be a time where the Holy Spirit rests (for lack of a better term). Opinions?

 

I must agree with others, that idea originates from man's theology on 2 Thess.2 with thinking Apostle Paul was speaking of The Holy Spirit being what is 'withheld' (2 Thess.2:6). That's not what that verse is even about. It's about the one who withholds the coming of the Antichrist until it's time for him to appear at the end of this world just prior to our Lord Jesus' coming.

 

If you'll read through our Lord Jesus' Olivet Discourse in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 you'll discover He foretold that some of us will be delivered up to councils and synagogues at the end in order to give a Testimony for Jesus against them by The Holy Spirit. Jesus commanded there to not premeditate what one will say in that hour, but to speak what The Holy Spirit gives to say. In the Luke 21:13-15 example of that, Jesus said what is said in that hour by The Holy Spirit our adversaries won't be able to gainsay against nor resist.

 

I know some Churches are teaching that we won't be here on earth for those events of the latter half of the tribulation, but that's simply not true per God's Word. This Testimony and Witness for Christ Jesus by His elect in the end against Satan's host on earth is going to begin the fall of the evil empire over all the nations in that near-future time. Imagine, the majority of the world thinking the coming Antichrist is God, and worshiping him in place of God because of their being deceived, and then certain of Christ's servants are delivered up as if they were criminals, only to wind up giving a Witness against them by The Holy Spirit that they won't be able to resist! One of the ways we will help win this final battle against Satan and his hosts on earth in that tribulation time will be by The Holy Spirit just prior to our Lord Jesus coming.

 

Truly, our LORD has the Victory, and His faithful are with Him. We should listen to Him, for He already told us these things in His Word of Truth, if only His people would take time to read It.

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If you want to know what it is that is taken away that is withholding right now per 2 Thess.2:6, then look at Daniel chapter 10, which is a Heavenly view of events affecting the earth, and is about the Archangel Michael that does the withholding. That's what Apostle Paul was talking about in the 2 Thess.2:6 Scripture, not The Holy Spirit.

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