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Every one of you witnesses this every day i suppose: a christian trying to convince an atheist and an atheist trying to convince a christian. But why? Why does one group always tries to prove the other one wrong? Why can't we just life near each other with other faith and believes? Why is everyone wants the others to have the same believe? The world would be a much more peacefull place if everybody would just let other people believe what they want.

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If the body of Christ just sat back and did not speak the truth, many would never hear the good news. The great commision commands us to go and preach. To all the world. God desires that not one should perish. And when even one sheep strays and returns heaven rejoices. Besides there will never be peace between Gods camp and the enemys camp. This is a war.

Personally I do not recommend trying to presuade an athiest if you dont have the leading of The Holy Spirit to do so.

I do however desire that the christian verses an athiest debate should stop. On television. A while back they had one with that bill nye guy. The bible tells us the Holy Spirit draws people. Not a debate.

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So if the holy spirit draws people, christians don't have to? besides it remindes me of the holy war of the muslim. they have a holy war too.

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We ought to be the temple for the Holy Spirit. But many times, the temple appears to be under reconstruction, by God. That means, that we are on our way to become more Christ-like, when we choose to follow and listen to Him. Outside, the sight is not always pretty, if we miss the guidance and follow the Moses-formula; do the same thing which may have worked before, but fail to notice God is proposing something new.

 

Having been an atheist, I understand that way of thinking. Being a child of the Heavenly Father in Christ, I wish they could only experience the amount and quality of love God has for us. But then again, it can only be possible most of the time if I try to let that love show. It's not about falsely pretending to care, but to let that inner feeling shine through.

 

That's the best way of convincing I know of. In addition, as long as we communicate with words, and do not think exactly the same way, we may have to keep up with the debate. I guess most of the atheists and such come here for that; to see if our thinking holds any water. And I tell you the truth; I do my best for my thinking not to hold that water, but that my thoughts could be vehicle for the living water to spring forth. Unfortunately, there are probably a leak or two somewhere along the way in my pipeline system. The only perfect man ever walking on this Earth is the one I am trying to follow.

 

I leave the biggest part of convincing to Him. But in order for Him to be successful, He asks for me to let Him be known. And He as the Spirit can never be captured in a test tube and measured, because God does not give His Spirit in measures. It's about taking it or leaving it.

 

Manage I to leave the religious mambojambo out of the conversation and speak the plain Spirit of God, I might do some beneficial convincing for Him to finish with.

 

The debate will go on, tis' a Christian forum welcoming anyone with a sincere heart to understand, and we all will learn. Just remember the respect. For according to my understanding, each human being has been created in God's image. Now hold that thought. It's just about to get exciting over here ;) Or what did you think? We all came here for nothing, but why then, do even the simplest life forms try to defend their existence if it's for no meaning at all? Sorry, here's me convincing again.

 

Don't take my word for it, let God show you. Outside of anyone's opinions. Deep within your being.

 

And excuse my convincing. Better convinced than convicted :D

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The Bible tells Christ's followers to present the Gospel.  When you think about it, the urgency to convince hinges on one thing:  Is there an afterlife and where do we spend it if it exists?  When you put it into perspective, it is probably the most urgent question we must ask in this life.  The agony and pleasures of this life pale with the vision of eternity.  I don't think the convincing is going to stop.  I think judging others and religiosity should stop, but not heartfelt concern for others.

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Find a video of Pen Jillette get gift of bible, or something like that, it is all over youtube. I am sure you can find a text of it as well, but I think hearing him say what he says, gets his point across best.

 

For those who do not recognize the name, he is the speaking one of the Penn and Teller magic team, and an obviously bright man, who is famous for being outspoken on atheism and Libertarian-ism.

 

I think he explains, as well as anyone can, why believers have to proselytize or they are just immoral and uncaring.

 

It is not directed at Christians by any means, but I think every Christian should see it, and consider what he says, and every non-believer should see it as well, if they want to understand why believers just cannot drop the subject.

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Every one of you witnesses this every day i suppose: a christian trying to convince an atheist and an atheist trying to convince a christian. But why? Why does one group always tries to prove the other one wrong? Why can't we just life near each other with other faith and believes? Why is everyone wants the others to have the same believe? The world would be a much more peacefull place if everybody would just let other people believe what they want.

Are you trying to convince us to stop trying to convince each other?

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The world would be a much more peaceful place if everybody would just let other people believe what they want.

 

~

 

Without Jesus

 

He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36

 

There Is No Hope,

 

Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6

 

No Peace,

 

Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. John 14:27

 

No Life

 

For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. Matthew 24:21-22

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So if the holy spirit draws people, christians don't have to? besides it remindes me of the holy war of the muslim. they have a holy war too.

Phil 2:10-13

10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth,

and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord,

to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in

my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and

trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

KJV

The war is lost to the atheist and every mouth shall confess it... we are just obedient to God

to tell them to come to Jesus while salvation is offered! Love, Steven

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Every one of you witnesses this every day i suppose: a christian trying to convince an atheist and an atheist trying to convince a christian. But why? Why does one group always tries to prove the other one wrong? Why can't we just life near each other with other faith and believes? Why is everyone wants the others to have the same believe? The world would be a much more peacefull place if everybody would just let other people believe what they want.

 

Mark 16:15-16 (NKJV)

And He said to them, "Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned.

 

I believe that it is our responsibility to preach the gospel and teach others about Christ, but that does not mean we should involve ourselves in heated debates with those who do not believe. It is not our job to "convert" others, but to just let others know about Christ and let them make their choice. Whatever choice they make they shall be judged upon when Christ returns. So, your job is to spread the gospel, and if anyone refuses to believe do not waste your time and energy arguing with them when you could be using that time to win more souls. 

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