GoldenEagle Posted June 16, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 4. “God helps those who help themselves” This phrase is not in the Bible. The earliest recording of this saying is actually from Aesop's fable "Hercules and the Waggoner." A man's wagon got stuck in a muddy road, and he prayed for Hercules to help. Hercules appeared and said, "Get up and put your shoulder to the wheel." The moral given was "The gods help them that help themselves." Aesop was a Greek writer who lived from 620 to 564 BC, but obviously was not an author of the Bible. The saying was also made famous by Benjamin Franklin in 1776. Regarding salvation Jesus Christ is the only way and we cannot help ourselves or save ourselves. So we certainly cannot help ourselves there. In fact, the Bible teaches the exact opposite in many instances. Jesus said it is better to give than to receive for example in Acts 20:35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maui Ice Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 133 Content Per Day: 0.04 Reputation: 24 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/30/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/04/1986 Share Posted June 17, 2014 I know a lot of saying that people accredit to God's Word or Biblical sayings have been tweeked a bit here and there and still said to be found in Scriptures. I think that is something taht we need to be careful of because even a small change here and there to a phrase can change the whole meaning of the sentence. For example, like firestormx said, it's the "love of money", not "money is the root of all evil". a few word changes here and there and people are attributing verses to a place they aren't originated from. The Bible is the best resource for these kind of things by far! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 5. “And this too shall pass” This phrase is not in the Bible. Abraham Lincoln once used this phrase in a speech. This possibly is a misinterpretation of a line from "The Lament of Doer," an Old English poem. The main character, Doer, has been replaced as his lord's poet, and calls to mind several other Germanic mythological figures who went through troubled times. Of note each refrain ends with, "that passed away, so may this." Another possibility is that this saying has its roots in the works of Persian Sufi poets. Attar of Nishapur records one fable of a powerful king who asks assembled wise men to create a ring that will make him happy when he is sad, and vice versa. After debating, the sages hand him a simple ring with the words “This too will pass” etched on it, which has the desired effect. There are passages in the Bible including Matt. 24:5 that tell us that our lives, heaven, and earth will pass away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 #3 is from the Talmud Please expand on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 Proverbs 4:23 Which number is this in reference to please Cletus? Or is this a new observation?Prov. 4:23Keep your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 6. “To thine own self be true” This Phrase comes from Hamlet Act 1 Scene 3 written by the famous William Shakespeare. Scripture says that our ways are like a filth rags and that we need God's instruction as well as guidance into liberty and righteousness. See for example Psalm 23:3, Isaiah 64:6, and Isaiah 59:10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.81 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 They are Biblical but rephrased. Please see explanations in previous posts. I did a little research and found that a lot of them were not in the Bible after all. God bless sister! In Christ, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 #3 is from the Talmud Please expand on this? The phrase cleanliness is next to godliness is attributed to Rabbi Phineas ben Yair and is found in tractate Avodah Zarah 20b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamnot Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 15 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 221 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 64 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/23/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/21/1945 Share Posted June 17, 2014 1. Moderation in all things. From the book of Ecclesiastes chapter 7: "Do not be over-righteous, nor be over-wise - Why destroy yourself? do not be over-wicked, and do not be a fool - Why die before your time? It is good to grasp the one and not let go of the other. the man of God will avoid all extremes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted June 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,653 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Online Share Posted June 17, 2014 Prov. 16:18 Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. 1 Cor. 10:13-14 No temptation has overtaken you except is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it. Luke 6:31 NKJV And just as you want men to do to you, you also do to them likewise. And others have mentioned "for the love of money is the root of all evil." These are the only ones I know of that have their roots in scripture. Blessings, Willa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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