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The Golden Cup of `Oneness.`

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As Christians we partake of the Lord`s communion cup where we remember His sacrifice for us. Through Him we are made into ONE body - the Body of Christ.

 

The world also has a cup, a golden cup offering `golden opportunities,` of wealth, fame & power to those who drink. And this wine is intoxicating, for it makes the `inhabitants of the earth drunk.` They lose all moral sense, becoming corrupt.

 

So what is this wine offered to the world. It is the belief that `humanity, nature & God are interdependent.` We are ONE. This Global Religion is through the UN & it permeates & effects every area of our society. (education, health, business, civil org, church orgs....etc) It is courted by politicians everywhere as it is the motivator & controller of the masses.

 

Now we use words to explain our beliefs (Christian) & the world`s religion also uses words for their beliefs. These seem good but craftily they have been given new meanings.

 

For example, Character qualities - God tells us -

 

`diligence, faith, virtue, knowledge, self-control, perseverance, godliness, kindness, & love.`  (2 Peter 1: 2 - 8)

 

The UN however promotes their religious beliefs with these values -

 

`respect, responsibility, justice, trustworthiness, civic virtue, citizenship.`

 

 

Respect - respect like tolerance means appreciation for people & lifestyles that fit the globalist plan. Respect for paganism & promiscuous lifestyles.

 

Responsibility - for citizens to guard the fundamental rights of all citizens & carry out the obligations of citizenship by working towards a common vision of the common good.

 

Civic Virtue & Citizenship (& responsibility) - are all open ended. Compliant citizens must be ready to conform to changing rules & evolving duties. All three imply obedience to a new `civic framework of rights, responsibilities & respect.`

 

(etc....etc...)

 

Finally this Global Religion requires that everyone must embrace the right values, demonstrate the right character & become the right kind of citizen - or lose the social benefits only awarded those who comply.

 

 

Has anyone experienced these Global Religious beliefs from the UN,...... at work, school, church org......etc?

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Are you in danger of being reported to the authorities for expressing your `politically incorrect` thoughts & behaviours while in the safety of your home, & in the privacy of family conversations? Reporter, C. Chumley thinks so. She feels that a remark made by Michelle Obama reflects a growing trend in America to attack individuals for committing `thought crime.`

 

Michelle Obama`s recent remarks made headlines when she reportedly exhorted graduating high schoolers in a commencement address to monitor their families for politically incorrect thoughts & behaviours. Chumley described this as an intrusion of family privacy by government that belongs `in a George Orwell novel, not the White House.`

 

Some online political forums suggest the Michelle was simply urging young people not to let bigotry & prejudice go unchallenged, thus helping the youth be a part of the solution against racist & bigoted views & attitudes, irrespective of their individual racial backgrounds.

 

 

Sounds `good,` but `bigoted views,` incorporates not agreeing with Gay, Lesbian,....etc lifestyles, pagan practises etc. There is more in these words than what we think they mean at first glance. This Global religion with its all inclusive values has the young firmly in its sights.

 

 

I will speak more on this & what the UN`s next bold step is. 

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I am following the power of the UN over time to see if it is as I believe the `mother of prostitutes.` Now we realise that the `prostitutes` are the false religions of the world. But who is their `mother,` the over riding power of them all. Time will tell.

 

Recently the UN released a report on the Rights of the Child. It conveyed the panel`s displeasure with the way the Vatican has responded to the sexual abuse of minors by priests. There is much more to the report than first meets the eye, because the true goal of the UN panel is to require the Catholic Church to change Canon Law in order to adopt the UN Convention`s precedence over international laws & regulations.

 

Is the UN unnecessarily forcing its hand on the Catholic Church in an effort to control its actions world wide? And if the Church adheres to conforming with the UN`s moral standards, what impact will it ultimately have on how other Religious groups are permitted to operate.

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On 6/17/2014 at 3:54 AM, Marilyn C said:

Has anyone experienced these Global Religious beliefs from the UN,...... at work, school, church org......etc?

Hi Marylin,

 

Grace and peace of our Lord Jesus Christ.

 

Ø  “And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:” (Rev 17.5).

 

The first question is: what have in this golden cup?

 

Ø  “For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.” (Rev 18.3).

 

What does wine symbolize?

 

Ø  “And the vine said unto them, Should I leave my wine, which cheereth God and man, and go to be promoted over the trees?” (Judges 9.13).

Ø  “And wine [ that ] maketh glad the heart of man, [ and ] oil to make [ his ] face to shine, and bread [ which ] strengtheneth man's heart.” (Psalms 104.15).

 

The wine represents the carnal joy.

And what is the wine made of?

 

Ø  “With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.” (Rev 17.2).

Ø  “And upon her forehead [ was ] a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.” (Rev 17.5).

Ø  “And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.” (Rev 18.23).

 

You perceive that the wine is made of fornication, abominations and sorceries.

However, don’t you think that such things are heinous crimes. They brought richness and prosperity:

 

Ø  “For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.” (Rev 18.3).

Ø  “And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing, saying, Alas, alas, that great city, wherein were made rich all that had ships in the sea by reason of her costliness! for in one hour is she made desolate.” (Rev 18.19).

Ø  “Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; but the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed [ them ] all. Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.” (Luke 17.28-30).

 

In the days of Sodom and Gomorrah there was much prosperity:

 

Ø  “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.” (Eze 16.49).

 

In other words, fornication, abominations and sorceries are not crimes, but apparently normal things. See:

 

Ø  “And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man. They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until he day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all. Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;” (Luke 17.26-28).

 

However, what does the mark of the beast consist in?

 

Ø  “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.” (Rev 13.16,17).

 

Worse than doing the wrong thing, is doing the right thing with bad motivation. Worse than worshipping other gods is worshipping Jesus as the people worship other gods:

 

Ø  “Thou shalt have none other gods before me.” (Deut 5.7).

Ø  “Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.” (Deut 12.30,31).

 

A pagan costume doesn’t become sanctified only because we say that this is been done for glory of Jesus’ name. For the contrary: like the Eternal cares for His name (Deut 5.11; Isaiah 48.9; Ezekiel 20.9,14,22,44; 36.22) He will spue such adoration:

 

Ø  “I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.” (Rev 3.15,16).

 

In the end, what more worry the Eternal is the people worshipping or serving Him in a wrong way (see 2Sam 6.6,7). So much so that the woman was drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus:

 

Ø  “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” (Rev 17.6).

 

It is true that this has to do with the dead saints in the Old Testament and those who were martyred in the New Testament in Jesus' name. Nevertheless, it is much more deep. Note that the merchants enrich for the blood of them. Furthermore, if in the golden cup was the “fornication, abominations and sorceries”, and the woman was drunken with “blood of the just ones”, therefore there is a link between the two.

Hence the great admiration of John:

 

Ø  “And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.” (Rev 17.6).

 

If the woman was a satanic religion or some worldly entity, John would not be admired.

But, after all, what is:

 

·         Fornication: vain or evil relationships (that is, with other gods – Judges 2.17; 1Chr 5.25.). The commandment is clear: “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” (Exo 20.3). We can’t seek the Eternal so that He renders the other gods favorable to us.

Fornication have to do with unions seeking some material or physic profit. This agreement promises peace and prosperity, but it is totally lacking in truth. As example, we have the policy, religious or commercial unions (see Ez 16.26,28; Rev 17.2; 18.3,9). These unions bear in mind the best form to take advantage of each other (see Dan 11.27).

Including, note that, when man and woman marry, they constitute one flesh (Gen 2.24), whereas who join yourself to a harlot is one body with her (1Cor 6.16). Note that, while the marriage is union only physic or emotional, the fornication is union also in the spirit. To be more exact: in life of those who fornicate, bad spirits tend to keep them united in evil against the neighbor while bind evil within them.

·         Abominations: everything that sows discord among brethren (Prov 6.19). Many of these things are apparently good. For example: to go into a professional career, to dispute a competition, etc. That which is highly esteemed among men is abomination in the sight of God (Luke 16.15). Whatever the thing that separate us one another is abomination.

·         Sorceries: whatever the form of trying to force the Eternal or the others to do what we desire.

o   “And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries.” (Acts 8:11).

o   “And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.” (Rev 18.23).

Note that sorcery have to do with to deceive and bewitch somebody. For example: when a boyfriend, trying to enthrall his girlfriend, shows to her what he knows that it is going to joy her. This is charm (sorcery).

When somebody prays or worships Jesus thinking in convince Him to leave the heaven to perform his will, this is sorcery.

 

Finally, what is the cup?

Cup is symbol of judgment (see, for example: Psalms 75.8; Isa 51.22; Luke 22.42; Rev 14.10; 16.19; 18.6).

 

Ø  “With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.” (Rev 17.2).

 

The golden cup is the judgment of the Eternal on apostasy that is in the Church:

 

Ø  “For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [ will let ], until he be taken out of the way. And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: [ Even him ], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, and with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.” (2Tes 2.7-12).

 

Even as the ten virgins slumbered and slept, thus the apostasy is going to cool the faith of him that believe in Jesus, worshipping their idols in their heart (Eze 14.3-11), namely, looking for Christ only in the things of this life (1Cor 15.19).

In other words, to whom takes pleasure in wickedness, the Eternal permits the Great Babylon deceives them, so that they live conform the theology of prosperity, which say that they can bind themselves to Jesus without knowing the truth inside them (fornication). It is enough to obey the rituals of the Babylonian System (sorcery) so that God puts us over the neighbor (abomination).

And, to worsen the things, they defile all where they went by (that is to say, they are filthiness – Deut 28.16,19).

May Jesus bless you.

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Hi Leonardo Von,

Interesting thoughts you have there. And thank you for responding to the topic. You said -

`The golden cup is the judgment of the Eternal on apostasy that is in the Church....`

I would say that it is the cause of God`s judgment upon the apostate church. I have been thinking about posting a thread on the apostate church, & I hope you will respond there.

regards Marilyn.

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On 6/17/2014 at 0:54 AM, Marilyn C said:

So what is this wine offered to the world. It is the belief that `humanity, nature & God are interdependent.` We are ONE.

According to Rev 18:4, the wine that is offered is "abominations and filthiness of her fornication".  So it would be a lot worse than the belief stated above (which is relatively mild).  Pantheism and Panentheism have been around for a long time, but under the Antichrist, the focus will be on the worship of Satan, the Beast and his image.

So what we see here is rampant and universal idolatry (abominations) and every imaginable sexual filthiness and perversion classified as "fornication". I believe the LGBTQ agenda as well as all the evil atrocities of Radical Islamists fit into this mold and will grow worse.

Radical Hinduism and its idolatry can also be included, along with Maryolatry. Paganism and its filthy rituals are also a part of this "wine".  So, in fact there are many aspects to Mystery Babylon, which is a worldwide phenomenon claiming to be spiritual, but in fact is against God and against Christ and Christianity. This woman is a blasphemous woman, so blasphemy cannot be excluded.

We should bear in mind that Satan and all his evil angels will be literally present on earth to ensure that the nations of the world come under the umbrella of Mystery Babylon. The Church and the Holy Spirit will not be present to restrain this unbridled evil.

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7 minutes ago, Ezra said:

According to Rev 18:4, the wine that is offered is "abominations and filthiness of her fornication".  So it would be a lot worse than the belief stated above (which is relatively mild).  Pantheism and Panentheism have been around for a long time, but under the Antichrist, the focus will be on the worship of Satan, the Beast and his image.

So what we see here is rampant and universal idolatry (abominations) and every imaginable sexual filthiness and perversion classified as "fornication". I believe the LGBTQ agenda as well as all the evil atrocities of Radical Islamists fit into this mold and will grow worse.

Radical Hinduism and its idolatry can also be included, along with Maryolatry. Paganism and its filthy rituals are also a part of this "wine".  So, in fact there are many aspects to Mystery Babylon, which is a worldwide phenomenon claiming to be spiritual, but in fact is against God and against Christ and Christianity. This woman is a blasphemous woman, so blasphemy cannot be excluded.

We should bear in mind that Satan and all his evil angels will be literally present on earth to ensure that the nations of the world come under the umbrella of Mystery Babylon. The Church and the Holy Spirit will not be present to restrain this unbridled evil.

Hi Ezra,

I quite agree with you & thank you for elaborating. I was just giving the bottom line, but it really needed a fuller explanation. So, great you have done that bro.

I said - 

`So what is this wine offered to the world. It is the belief that `humanity, nature & God are interdependent.` We are ONE. `

This belief that the whole world will accept `legalises` all those behaviours you mentioned. That is the difference than just `Pantheism` as a mild belief.

regards, Marilyn.

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Hi Marilyn,

please to meet you here.  Just like your topics,  the way you outline and present your answers.  I thoroughly enjoy reading your stuff as i can see you do your homework and may the lord continue to grant you the wisdom to write and convey your messages.

Great, great topic and some very revealing replies.  Ah, yes the cup and the wine that is offered to the world. What exactly is in that cup. ?

Well lets start by asking what are seducing spirits. ?

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4 hours ago, warrior12 said:

Hi Marilyn,

please to meet you here.  Just like your topics,  the way you outline and present your answers.  I thoroughly enjoy reading your stuff as i can see you do your homework and may the lord continue to grant you the wisdom to write and convey your messages.

Great, great topic and some very revealing replies.  Ah, yes the cup and the wine that is offered to the world. What exactly is in that cup. ?

Well lets start by asking what are seducing spirits. ?

Hi warrior12,

Pleased to meet you also & thank you for your encouragement. Often I feel I `fly against the wind,` in some topics, but I am pleased to hear that some are receiving & willing to look at the now & not just the long past & distant future.

OK, so.....`seducing spirits.` Interesting that you have brought this up as I have been looking into `the Kundalini spirit,` so called by those in the Hindu religion. Andrew Strom, prophet from NZ has done some videos, (on utube) & they expose how the enemy has infiltrated believers with this spirit. You can also watch other videos by unbelievers who tell how this spirit is awakening them to become their enlightened self - like Budda or Jesus, they say.  

I`m putting together the steps of possession this spirit (s) take on a person. Believers do not realise they are influenced, but the signs are obvious to someone who knows what to look for. Will speak on this some more as we need to be informed.

So, to me that is one type of seducing spirit that some believers have received, thinking it is the Holy Spirit.

regards, Marilyn. 

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