JohnD Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2014 Understand, the argument can be made that Christianity (ever since the radical Roman takeover) has been on shaky ground (God saving the Church Organism despite the human tradition--saturated Church organization) and the logical conclusion / outcome (Christianity appears to most from outside and inside to be nothing more than another world religion) and people, nay entire nations (including America) have turned their backs on God... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WIP Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 18 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 545 Content Per Day: 0.11 Reputation: 116 Days Won: 1 Joined: 04/16/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2014 It is the world who has turned from God...scripture tells us that He is not willing that any should perish...No He hasn't turned His back on the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 Dare to take the "how well do I know the God I say I believe in" quiz? I mean, isn't becoming totally familiar with God and knowing his plan for humanity and our own personal calling to ministry according to our spiritual gifts kind of the initial basis for a relationship we claim to have with him? Someone very wise said "if we dated people the way we carry on a relationship with God, we would be all alone." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 21, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 306 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,130 Content Per Day: 4.64 Reputation: 27,806 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2014 Blessings John Very wise indeed,but thank God He never abandons us as people will do very quickly if we put forth no effort to keep a relationship alive,God cannot be compared to a human being,His Mercy endures forever,,,by ignoring the One that loves us beyond measure does nothing to lessen His love for us or to nullify any of His promises from the moment we accepted Jesus as our Lord& Savior,our lives would be unfruitful & we cannot move forward without seeking an intimate relationship with our Father,it is our choice With love,in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 21, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? technically the answer to this question would be no...... all things came from the Father, but Jesus himself did the creating in the form he was in prior to becoming flesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 22, 2014 Share Posted June 22, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? technically the answer to this question would be no...... all things came from the Father, but Jesus himself did the creating in the form he was in prior to becoming flesh. Amen~! And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ: Ephesians 3:9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? technically the answer to this question would be no...... all things came from the Father, but Jesus himself did the creating in the form he was in prior to becoming flesh. Then Isaiah 44:24 is untrue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted June 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted June 23, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? technically the answer to this question would be no...... all things came from the Father, but Jesus himself did the creating in the form he was in prior to becoming flesh. Then Isaiah 44:24 is untrue? Nope, it's very true..... the Lord, or God in the old testament is Jesus when he was in the form of God before he set that aside and became flesh. Jesus is the Old Testament God.... They did not know of the Father before Jesus came here and made it possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD Posted June 23, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 0 Topic Count: 904 Topics Per Day: 0.19 Content Count: 9,642 Content Per Day: 2.03 Reputation: 5,828 Days Won: 9 Joined: 04/07/2011 Status: Offline Author Share Posted June 23, 2014 The Apostles' Creed begins with "I believe in God the Father, Creator of heaven and earth..." Quiz question number 1... Is this true? technically the answer to this question would be no...... all things came from the Father, but Jesus himself did the creating in the form he was in prior to becoming flesh. Then Isaiah 44:24 is untrue? Nope, it's very true..... the Lord, or God in the old testament is Jesus when he was in the form of God before he set that aside and became flesh. Jesus is the Old Testament God.... They did not know of the Father before Jesus came here and made it possible. Okay, I see the problem here. Your interpretation of the deity of Christ is that he "was" God but gave all that up to become a man. Is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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