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I had a topic posted "Children and Religion" in which I wanted to explore the rationale behind indoctrinating children with religious beliefs, whether or not treating them as sickly and in danger of eternal damnation is helpful or harmful to their psychological well-being, and whether or not doubt and information that disagrees with Christian orthodoxy ought to be discouraged or studied and understood. I remained polite and honest but critical and objective in my questioning, as anyone with a sincere approach to any topic should do, and it appears to have been deleted. I take that as basically confirming my biggest concern about Christianity, as with all cults and religions--the word is to be taken at face value, and anything that challenges that common wisdom is to be oppressed and destroyed. I looked around to see where I could ask a mod about this but did not find a specific forum to do so. Why was the thread deleted? Understandably, one of the "Christian" members who responded (claiming to speak for all the others) appeared upset that I pressed them on some of their unjustified claims, noted by their arrogant and disrespectful tone towards me (assuming I "just can't get it" unless I drink the kool-aid first--which, by the way, I have, and ultimately found its contents distasteful), but I can't see that as reasonable cause to delete the thread. Not to mention, it's an important discussion that believers and unbelievers should be having among themselves and one another. Is there a general criteria by which threads get deleted? Or is it simply if a so-called "Christian" doesn't like having their views challenged, they can request that the questions simply "go away"?

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I want you to look at the first words of your paragraph. You use words like indoctrinating them and treating them as "sickly" these words and the way you use them suggest that you are not interested in an honest discussion at all but that your mind is made up and you just want to pick a fight. In which case yes it was deleted. If that was not your goal then perhaps think through your choice of words next time so people don't get the wrong impression

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I had a topic posted "Children and Religion" in which I wanted to explore the rationale behind indoctrinating children with religious beliefs, whether or not treating them as sickly and in danger of eternal damnation is helpful or harmful to their psychological well-being, and whether or not doubt and information that disagrees with Christian orthodoxy ought to be discouraged or studied and understood. I remained polite and honest but critical and objective in my questioning, as anyone with a sincere approach to any topic should do, and it appears to have been deleted. I take that as basically confirming my biggest concern about Christianity, as with all cults and religions--the word is to be taken at face value, and anything that challenges that common wisdom is to be oppressed and destroyed. I looked around to see where I could ask a mod about this but did not find a specific forum to do so. Why was the thread deleted? Understandably, one of the "Christian" members who responded (claiming to speak for all the others) appeared upset that I pressed them on some of their unjustified claims, noted by their arrogant and disrespectful tone towards me (assuming I "just can't get it" unless I drink the kool-aid first--which, by the way, I have, and ultimately found its contents distasteful), but I can't see that as reasonable cause to delete the thread. Not to mention, it's an important discussion that believers and unbelievers should be having among themselves and one another. Is there a general criteria by which threads get deleted? Or is it simply if a so-called "Christian" doesn't like having their views challenged, they can request that the questions simply "go away"?

Someday we all will stand before the Lord,what would you say when you stand before a Holy God when He will ask you what you did with Jesus,what will you say?

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Patriot, you object to me using the word sickly but do you object to your fellow Christians asserting that children need a doctor for their souls? What does someone who needs doctor imply? It implies someone is sick. And what's wrong with the word "indoctrination"?

"Indoctrination often refers to religious ideas, when you're talking about a religious environment that doesn't let you question or criticize those beliefs. The Latin word for "teach," doctrina is the root of indoctrinate, and originally that's just what it meant."

Please tell me what is objectionable about that terminology. It seems like you're purposely being obscurantist and nit-picky to avoid a closer examination of the ideas and practices you fine perfectly acceptable. Maybe you're right. Maybe you're not. That's the point of discussion, to figure out who has the more rational, humane point of view.

Angel,

I would tell God, "I've heard a lot of conflicting ideas about you. Nice to finally meet face to face. My name is Sean. What's yours?"

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Why would you like us to lie to our kids? are you some sort of heathan? Would you want us to damn our kids to hell???????????????????????????????

 

Ok that was extreme. But do you get my point? Im not saying you want us to lie to our kids or damn them to hell, Im saying the way you worded was poor. It came across as you are just picking a fight-just like the above statement. Worthy, while we love free discussion-don't want our discussions turned into fights. Im not saying you can't-or shouldnt express your viewpoint. Im suggesting that you find a better way to word it. Just like my above statement would just pick a fight-your wording also is worded to pick a fight. You know what they say in real life-its not what you say, its how you say it. Well online-its both. Since we cant hear your voice we cant pick up the syntax, we can't see your body language, so how you word something, is very very important. I am offering you advice here my friend-you are welcome to take it or leave it.

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I take your point but I'm honestly not sure how you would have worded my questions differently. And in that last thread, it's pretty clear "LadyC" was being needlessly antagonist simply because he/she did not appreciate my line of questioning, which I still think has thus far been fair and respectful and more importantly, crucial for all to ask themselves, especially those who portray a certitude about cosmic matters generally considered controversial or unknowable.

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Simple-heres how you say it.

 

"Should parents teach their kids about heaven and hell from a young age, or teach them about other religions as well" worded this way is neutral, non attacking, yet asks the same question. See what Im saying? it conveys the same question-in a non-antagonistic way.

 

And if you have a problem with a certain person, I suggest you take it up with them in private-or with the mods in private. 

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You say to-may-to, I say to-mah-to. I'll try to mold my style of writing to your liking but I'm still confused as to how that justified the deletion of the thread and not a simple instruction as the one you have kindly given me.

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my friend, please understand this is a global forum for many different people to communicate. There are those, especially among whom register as nonbelievers, who come here only to provoke with no real interest to discuss. The history of Worthy speaks for that. Some even disguise themselves as Christians to promote their agenda under cover, believe or not.

 

Hence the low tress-hold for strict actions against any suspected motifs. Imagine yourself running a site like this. It's hard work, even without any sabotage which occurs as well. Don't take it personally. It's basically because of these reasons.

 

We do well, trying to see each other's view points. You say you've been into believing of some sort, but left that behind. Similarly many of us have been on other paths before coming to Christ. So understanding is there, let us exercise it too :) with respect, which is what I try to remind myself about often.

 

Otherwise, nice to have you here. Hope you will come to find the discussion with different people with different beliefs as fruitful as I have found them to be.

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Threads often get closed here when they get out of control, that usually happens when things start to heat up between posters. Whether it be a discussion between unbelievers and believers or believers and believers, so it's not just you. We try to keep calm and composed here, even when someone begins to get on our nerves. And when that happens it's best to not post anything at all, no need to fuel the fire especially when we are Christians.

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