digitalinchrist Posted July 19, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 0 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 55 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 7 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/18/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 19, 2014 Faith in science VS Faith in god As I sit here today....I loved Jurassic park movies and dinosaurs, but I can't prove to myself dinosaurs were alive in the flesh. And that the Earth and sun are billions of years old. I can freeze water at 32 degrees. I can burn objects with fire, but I cannot honestly prove to myself that there is anything beyond the sphere of this Earth. The playpen as I call it. I look up and see all this stuff, I don't really really know its there. You could say, well just get a telescope, again, I can't fly so I don't know whats up there. An atheist could say the same thing about the bible. There is no physical proof. Yet we experience miracles all the time. And we quickly forget like Israel following Moses after leaving Egypt. Or the disciples that forgot how Jesus fed them with a miracle earlier. To those with Faith no proof is necessary, to those who dont believe no proof is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman7 Posted July 20, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/24/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/01/1965 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Even the big bang requires faith You are so right! So does the theory of evolution. I'm thinking of writing a book on that one. To many "one in a million" chances that would need to happen. I have a better chance of winning the lottery's big prize 10 times in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinitron Posted July 20, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 6 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 140 Content Per Day: 0.03 Reputation: 42 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 20, 2014 I know that secular history has the Sumerians inventing glue 1,000 years before Adam and Eve were created. As far as a big bang goes, there is faith involved. Where did the dynamite come from? Magic I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigman7 Posted July 20, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 40 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 166 Content Per Day: 0.05 Reputation: 19 Days Won: 1 Joined: 06/24/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/01/1965 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I know that secular history has the Sumerians inventing glue 1,000 years before Adam and Eve were created. As far as a big bang goes, there is faith involved. Where did the dynamite come from? Magic I guess. Hummm, magic before humans. Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alphaparticle Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 1,363 Content Per Day: 0.35 Reputation: 403 Days Won: 5 Joined: 08/01/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2014 I frankly don't find it relevant at all whether or not the Big Bang occurred to God's existence. The Big Bang model is fairly well established empirically and therefore I accept it. My current faith in God would not be shaken if tomorrow major findings somehow controverted it. Likewise, my belief that God created everything in existence would not be threatened if somehow it were empirically established there are multiverses. Taking the discussion to that place doesn't seem like a particularly fruitful direction as far as I can tell. I don't think it fundamentally think it takes faith to accept the Big Bang, unless you also think it takes faith to accept the existence of electrons or the existence of the electromagnetic force. Faith, though, doesn't seem to be believing in stuff despite lacking evidence. It seems to come about as a response to an interaction with God. I don't have that sort of faith in anything else except God and His works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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