Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,194 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,494 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Share Posted July 17, 2014 We know that on the temple Mount that the first temple by Solomon was built. Then later after that had been torn down the second temple was built by Nehemiah & others. Now from scripture (Ezekiel) we are told that there will be a third temple built on this very spot, the Temple Mount. Now every reference to all three temples on this site was a translation of the Greek word `Hieron.` Any temple erected elsewhere was invariably from the Greek word `Naos.` This word is frequently rendered `meeting place,` `dwelling` or `Synagogue.` Now people believe that this temple on Mount Moriah has to be built before the Lord returns because of the `abomination` in the Holy Place that the Lord & the Apostle Paul spoke of in Matt. 24: 15 & 2 Thess. 2: 4. But that is incorrect & has caused much confusion. it is the word `Naos,` (temple elsewhere) that is used for the temple that the Anti-Christ will set up the abomination. And this temple has already been built. On August 1982 in the presence of the prime Minister, Menachem Begin, Members of Cabinet & other notables, the Jerusalem great Synagogue was dedicated. it is situated in King George Street, & is constructed from the same local stone as was Solomon`s Temple. The central feature is a high tower containing five magnificent stain-glass windows, topped by two tablets of stone, bearing the ten Commandments. In the interior, marble has been used extensively, especially for the Ark situated beneath the stained-glass windows. This, I believe is the Holy Place which will be desecrated by the `Abomination` referred to by Jesus. The Temple referred to by the Apostle Paul is Built! Solomon`s Temple, sacred Place is referred to as `Hieron,` as in John 10: 23 - Jesus was walking in the temple (hieron) in the portico of Solomon.` Whereas the Apostle Paul uses the Greek word `Naos,` when referring to the abomination set up in the temple at Jerusalem but not at the Mount Moriah site. `(the anti - Christ) who opposes & exalts himself above every so called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple (Naos) of God, displaying himself as being God.` (2 Thess 2: 4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,064 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,815 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 I hope it's ok to ponder on that for a while.... it's much too important not to think it through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,194 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,494 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi other one, That is a very good response to something that is important to our understanding of God`s word regarding Israel today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 We know that on the temple Mount that the first temple by Solomon was built. Then later after that had been torn down the second temple was built by Nehemiah & others. Now from scripture (Ezekiel) we are told that there will be a third temple built on this very spot, the Temple Mount. Now every reference to all three temples on this site was a translation of the Greek word `Hieron.` Any temple erected elsewhere was invariably from the Greek word `Naos.` This word is frequently rendered `meeting place,` `dwelling` or `Synagogue.` Now people believe that this temple on Mount Moriah has to be built before the Lord returns because of the `abomination` in the Holy Place that the Lord & the Apostle Paul spoke of in Matt. 24: 15 & 2 Thess. 2: 4. But that is incorrect & has caused much confusion. it is the word `Naos,` (temple elsewhere) that is used for the temple that the Anti-Christ will set up the abomination. And this temple has already been built. On August 1982 in the presence of the prime Minister, Menachem Begin, Members of Cabinet & other notables, the Jerusalem great Synagogue was dedicated. it is situated in King George Street, & is constructed from the same local stone as was Solomon`s Temple. The central feature is a high tower containing five magnificent stain-glass windows, topped by two tablets of stone, bearing the ten Commandments. In the interior, marble has been used extensively, especially for the Ark situated beneath the stained-glass windows. This, I believe is the Holy Place which will be desecrated by the `Abomination` referred to by Jesus. The Temple referred to by the Apostle Paul is Built! Solomon`s Temple, sacred Place is referred to as `Hieron,` as in John 10: 23 - Jesus was walking in the temple (hieron) in the portico of Solomon.` Whereas the Apostle Paul uses the Greek word `Naos,` when referring to the abomination set up in the temple at Jerusalem but not at the Mount Moriah site. `(the anti - Christ) who opposes & exalts himself above every so called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple (Naos) of God, displaying himself as being God.` (2 Thess 2: 4) That is a bit of a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 Never a dull moment with you Marilyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,194 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,494 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Spock, Thought you`d like that one. Well I do have a few more up my sleave. Have to keep us on our toes, ay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 We can start here..... http://biblehub.com/greek/3485.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,194 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,494 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi Spock, Thank you for that referral. However we need to remember how the Lord uses those words & the Apostle Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shiloh357 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 We know that on the temple Mount that the first temple by Solomon was built. Then later after that had been torn down the second temple was built by Nehemiah & others. Now from scripture (Ezekiel) we are told that there will be a third temple built on this very spot, the Temple Mount. Now every reference to all three temples on this site was a translation of the Greek word `Hieron.` Any temple erected elsewhere was invariably from the Greek word `Naos.` This word is frequently rendered `meeting place,` `dwelling` or `Synagogue.` Actually the words Naos and Hieron are both used to refer to the temple on Moriah. I don't know where you are getting your information, but they are mistaken. Solomon`s Temple, sacred Place is referred to as `Hieron,` as in John 10: 23 - Jesus was walking in the temple (hieron) in the portico of Solomon.` Whereas the Apostle Paul uses the Greek word `Naos,` when referring to the abomination set up in the temple at Jerusalem but not at the Mount Moriah site. The word Hieron refers to the inner sanctuary where the priests ministered. When referring to the temple structure as a whole, the word naos is used. It is not referencing two different temples in different locations. They are talking about two different aspects of the same temple and it is the one on Moriah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spock Posted July 17, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 29 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,239 Content Per Day: 0.86 Reputation: 1,686 Days Won: 6 Joined: 12/26/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted July 17, 2014 Ouch! I thought my link was bad enough. This is worse. Good luck rebutting that Matey. Spock watching with popcorn in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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