Marilyn C Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,200 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Hi Salty, God`s word says - `You know that the Rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them (the people) & those who are great exercise authority over them.` (Matt. 20: 25) As I said at the beginning of this topic that God Himself has shown us the two layers. Now we can talk all day about those who are exercising authority, but can we say who are the Rulers of the Gentiles, now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn C Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 30 Topic Count: 266 Topics Per Day: 0.07 Content Count: 13,200 Content Per Day: 3.49 Reputation: 8,497 Days Won: 12 Joined: 12/21/2013 Status: Offline Birthday: 10/06/1947 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 There is a point here that I need to clarify - `The Rulers of the Gentiles.` God made positions of authority (as we know) & has given them to the Gentiles for a period of time. When God says `obey the King, (ruler)` that is obviously only when it is not against God`s law. It is not so much the king but the position of authority that we are looking at. Yes, kings, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Emirs etc come & go but it is how they rule with that authority that will be judged. So if we desire to know who God is judging in the Final Gentile Global Government, then we need to look at these authority positions that God has put in place. The rulers represent the legal authority in a place over a group of people. Many obviously set up their authority by force but they all exercise a law over others. What we need to see is which authorities / rulers are the main ones who through legal, military & economic means are controlling the other rulers. Who are these great powers in positions of authority controlling our world today? These are the ones who are forming the Global Government leading up to the Final one. Can anyone say who they are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2014 As I said at the beginning of this topic that God Himself has shown us the two layers. Now we can talk all day about those who are exercising authority, but can we say who are the Rulers of the Gentiles, now? Well, no, actually we cannot. It is a politically incorrect subject, because the real rulers operate behind the scenes, like those secret societies I mentioned, and everytime that kind of idea is mentioned the majority start saying 'conspiracy theory' and such, as if there were no world conspiracy, because they have been programmed to react that way. That actually reveals God's hand in hiding the real heads of the one world government movement, because if the world easily knew who they were, it wouldn't be beyond stopping. Yet God has ordained it to occur per His will, and it will occur as written. When our Lord Jesus returns, then we will know. Per Isaiah 14 we will even look over at the pit where they will say to their king Satan, "Art though also become weak as we?" When all is said and done, the real movers will always wind up linking back to these -- Jude 1:4 4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. So when Apostle Paul spoke of the matter he only gave us clues like, "the mystery of iniquity", and about the powers of darkness over this world. He didn't go in greater detail because we are to understand how God has preordained certain men on this earth to fulfill the negative side of His Salvation Plan. Our Lord Jesus did give us one greater detail, with His parable of the tares of the field in Matthew 13. Understand who those tares point to and you'll begin to understand what specific people on earth are the drivers of the one world government movement, and actually worship and follow Lucifer as their god, which then of course points directly to the secret socieites founded from the old pagan 'mystery schools' of mystical initiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I noticed you omitted 'world Communism' from your list of globalist players. Maybe you think Communism is dead like many western minds seem to think, which is a great mistake. You might be interested in reading Golitsyn's New Lies For Old. And one you may not be familiar with, if you can find a copy, is John Robison's 17th work Proofs Of A Conspiracy containing documentation from the papers of the Bavarian Illuminati formed by Adam Weishaupt with the aim to destroy Christianity and overthrow the monarchs and governments of Europe and America. You should do some research on who funded and made Communism possible for the Russians..... and when China's revolution was said and done, it was David Rockefeller and those of the CFR that had made it possible for Mao to receive all our no longer needed war materials and refused to give them to Chang Ki Check who was a Christian. It was the United States that is responsible for China being communist. In 1972 David Rockefeller wrote an OpEd in the New York times bragging about how good it was that Mao had taken over as the dominant power in China...... called it an experiment. Communism is simply the antithesis of what the globalists want to have as a global government..... they need two opposing forces to play with the minds of the general population and build up forces to protect each other so as to blend them into a thesis of what they want in the first place..... and rob of us all of our wealth in the process. Russia has never really been an enemy of the US...... just a tool for the global bankers.... BTW the same general group of Bankers also funded the Nazi party. Yes if the world perceives two equal global powers, then the world is in fear. A fearful population is more likely to give up their sovereignity in favour of international protection, and so the one world government grows. At the moment the west has no military match at all, and so its the perceived threat of Islam that creates western fear, even though there is no threat. However in the form of Russian/Chinese/Islamic co-operation we do have a potential for two equal powers to keep the world in fear, and I believe these 3 powers will eventually surprise the Western Capitalists who are currently pulling all the strings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 21, 2014 However in the form of Russian/Chinese/Islamic co-operation we do have a potential for two equal powers to keep the world in fear, and I believe these 3 powers will eventually surprise the Western Capitalists who are currently pulling all the strings. Yep, and that would be the Soviet 'scissors strategy' which Golitsyn (ex-KGB colonel who defected to the U.S. in the 1960's) spoke of in his 1984 book New Lies For Old. The 1958 Soviet long-range strategy against the West was to play Russia and Red China against each to make it appear they were not united, so while one used war, the other played the 'friend' side with western diplomats in order to keep western economic aid flowing to them. Golitsyn showed how Communist Russia and Red China have always been allied in the same Communist strategy against the West. And when it is time for the final third phase of the long-range strategy, which he suggested they might allow the Berlin Wall to come down if ready, they would in final be like scissors, closing together upon the West like a final blow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 21, 2014 However in the form of Russian/Chinese/Islamic co-operation we do have a potential for two equal powers to keep the world in fear, and I believe these 3 powers will eventually surprise the Western Capitalists who are currently pulling all the strings. Yep, and that would be the Soviet 'scissors strategy' which Golitsyn (ex-KGB colonel who defected to the U.S. in the 1960's) spoke of in his 1984 book New Lies For Old. The 1958 Soviet long-range strategy against the West was to play Russia and Red China against each to make it appear they were not united, so while one used war, the other played the 'friend' side with western diplomats in order to keep western economic aid flowing to them. Golitsyn showed how Communist Russia and Red China have always been allied in the same Communist strategy against the West. And when it is time for the final third phase of the long-range strategy, which he suggested they might allow the Berlin Wall to come down if ready, they would in final be like scissors, closing together upon the West like a final blow. Yes this is exactly what I believe. So as per the general consensus in this thread, Western Bankers are controlling the world. I believe Islam and Russia and China will appear to toe the line and will give the west a "Messiah" and an enlarged Israel and in this way they will create world peace and pacify the west into passivity. When the west is at peace and unsuspecting, with their antichrist ruling the world, suddenly Russia, China and Islam will attack the west at Armageddon. Layers upon layers of deception. Satan's final attempt to destroy the Jews after their 3.5 years of protection will fail, because they will repent and Jesus himself will intervene on behalf of Israel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,098 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 21, 2014 Armageddon is not a war between the east and west, it's the whole world against Jesus.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,098 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 21, 2014 There is a point here that I need to clarify - `The Rulers of the Gentiles.` God made positions of authority (as we know) & has given them to the Gentiles for a period of time. When God says `obey the King, (ruler)` that is obviously only when it is not against God`s law. It is not so much the king but the position of authority that we are looking at. Yes, kings, Prime Ministers, Presidents, Emirs etc come & go but it is how they rule with that authority that will be judged. So if we desire to know who God is judging in the Final Gentile Global Government, then we need to look at these authority positions that God has put in place. The rulers represent the legal authority in a place over a group of people. Many obviously set up their authority by force but they all exercise a law over others. What we need to see is which authorities / rulers are the main ones who through legal, military & economic means are controlling the other rulers. Who are these great powers in positions of authority controlling our world today? These are the ones who are forming the Global Government leading up to the Final one. Can anyone say who they are? you can see them in the Grove meetings such as the Bohemian Grove in California and the Builderburg meetings. Just look for the people who are always there year after year. If/when you see Islam taking over these organizations, you should be afraid...... v e r y afraid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGOSY Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 10 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,695 Content Per Day: 0.45 Reputation: 583 Days Won: 2 Joined: 01/03/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/11/1968 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Armageddon is not a war between the east and west, it's the whole world against Jesus.... Thats what people think, there is a verse that says that. But even when the Romans destroyed Jerusalem, both sides of that war were ungodly and antichrist. The Romans persecuted Christians and so did the Jewish authorities hate Christians, both fought against Christ. In Daniel 11, the antichrist is alarmed by reports to the north and the east, and this causes him to go into a great rage, and then he dies. This doesn't sound like a war against Jesus (Jesus does not surprise the antichrist from the north and the east, then who does?). Please tell me what is going on regarding those reports in Daniel 11? I have an explanation, Armageddon is a war between east and west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted July 21, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,098 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted July 21, 2014 or maybe Abageddon is not the same war as you are looking at..... It's different from Ezekiel 38 and you may be confusing it with that war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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