silviawang Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2005 Status: Offline Share Posted July 26, 2014 Here is the news: American Presbyterian Church to divest from Caterpillar, Hewlett-Packard and Motorola Solutions claiming they profit from the Israeli occupation of Palestine http://www.bignewsnetwork.com/index.php/sid/223121583/scat/b8de8e630faf3631/ht/American-Presbyterian-Church-to-divest-from-Caterpillar-Hewlett-Packard-and-Motorola-Solutions-claiming-they-profit-from-the-Israeli-occupation-of-Palestine ----------I can not understand that Is this GOD’s will that the Jewish people re-establish Israel in the promise land? Is the re- establishment of Israel is the greatest miracle and testimony of Biblical prophesy? What these Churchs/Christians want to do? They hope Israel be destroyed, and the Jewish people lose their homeland again? and the credit of GOD(who promise the re- establishment of Israel and Israel will never be eliminated again)be destroyed before the eyes of whole world? They do not aware it will shaken the very foundation of Christian faith(which is based on GOD keeps his promise and fulfills his prophecy )? And,all in all They never have read the Book of Joshua? I can not understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silviawang Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 128 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.12 Reputation: 153 Days Won: 1 Joined: 02/16/2005 Status: Offline Author Share Posted July 26, 2014 In Bible ,GOD promised that the Israel will be re-establish and the descendant of Abraham will never lose their promise land again ------As Christian,we should obey GOD and working according to Bible,working with GOD to fulfill his plan(which was written in Bible) But what they did are directly contradict to Bible And now they are the obstacle of GOD’s promise and prophecy ,their too abundant “mercy”directly contradict to GOD’s will which was written in Bible,they have not read the story of king saul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OakWood Posted July 26, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 867 Topics Per Day: 0.24 Content Count: 7,331 Content Per Day: 2.00 Reputation: 2,860 Days Won: 31 Joined: 04/09/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 04/28/1964 Share Posted July 26, 2014 In Bible ,GOD promised that the Israel will be re-establish and the descendant of Abraham will never lose their promise land again ------As Christian,we should obey GOD and working according to Bible,working with GOD to fulfill his plan(which was written in Bible) But what they did are directly contradict to Bible And now they are the obstacle of GOD’s promise and prophecy ,their too abundant “mercy”directly contradict to GOD’s will which was written in Bible,they have not read the story of king saul? One excuse that is used by some so-called Christians is that the Jews in Israel are not real Jews. They claim that the Israelis are imposters (which is nonsense.).. One of the reasons for the Black Jesus movement is to claim that the real Jews were Black. Of course, anybody who disputes this can then be labelled racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Posted July 28, 2014 Group: Seeker Followers: 0 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 40 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 11 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2014 They do not understand that as Gentiles who have converted to Christianity and follow the God of the Hebrews, they have been adopted into the house of Israel and have the responsibility to returning the gospel to them. They don't understand that God has covenanted with Israel to gather them in again. They have a world view instead of a gospel view. Sad indeed. What this means is, the mark of the beast - which is false governments and societies, has deceived these Christians into following after the beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salty Posted July 28, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 1 Topic Count: 8 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,665 Content Per Day: 0.46 Reputation: 512 Days Won: 3 Joined: 05/11/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 28, 2014 God is not going to destroy His people that love Him. But will He destroy the false worshippers out of Jerusalem? Yes, and when the Antichrist comes we will find out who those are that prop that false one up in Jerusalem. I can in no way consider those who prop up the Antichrist as being of God's people. So there it is. But when one implies that Christianity and American Churches in general don't support God's people, that is like an insult. Point your insults upon the ones truly guilty, not at all Christians and American Churches!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildstar Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 218 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2014 I have no feelings towards Israel as all people are equal in my eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted July 29, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 186 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,242 Content Per Day: 3.33 Reputation: 16,652 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted July 29, 2014 There is a long held tradition held by the followers of Augustine that the church is now Israel. This is absurd but after Israel was destroyed and Jeruselem was razed in the first century, it seemed logical to the Christians of the early centuries. Augustine was a godly man who helped the church to define many of our beliefs. But his book called the City of God caused many to believe that we are now the true Jews/Israel and inherit all the promised given to the Jewish people. The Catholics, the Calvinist/Presbyterian/Reformed groups and the Lutherans usually taught this. It led to horrible persecution of the Jews over the centuries. Most evangelical churches do not subscribe to this belief and support the state of Israel. We also support her in her right to defend her land from attack. The news media has has for decades shown Israeli troops firing on "defenseless" Palestinians who, only moments before, had been attacking them. I have seen video of this being staged for liberal American news networks. Even now the Israelis warn the people in Gaza that the area will be bombed soon and advise them to flee, but they are advised by their own soldiers to stay, claiming the the Jews are lying. So they allow the massacre of their own people and purposely put their rockets next to schools and hospitals. I have also seen video of these things occurring as they try to make the Jews appear to be criminals. So I pray for the peace of Jerusalem as the Scripture tells us, and I bless the Jews, supporting them in my letters to congress and to friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lek Posted August 9, 2014 Group: Members Followers: 1 Topic Count: 0 Topics Per Day: 0 Content Count: 29 Content Per Day: 0.01 Reputation: 14 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/03/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2014 (edited) I am one who believes that the church is the new Israel spoken of in scripture. The promises to the nation of Israel have been fulfilled in Jesus and salvation is through Jesus Christ for all. Why would he re-establish the the old testament sacrificial system when he has already paid the price for the sins of all men? The nation of Israel was destroyed in 70 AD along with Jewish sacrificial system. The nation of Israel today is very secular and anti-christian and isn't even made up of a majority of practicing Jews. As far as supporting Israel, I feel we should use the same criteria as for any nation--if they are in the right we should support them; if they are in the wrong then we should not. Edited August 9, 2014 by Lek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 9, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,088 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,833 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted August 9, 2014 good luck with those thoughts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 10, 2014 Share Posted August 10, 2014 In Bible ,GOD promised that the Israel will be re-establish and the descendant of Abraham will never lose their promise land again ------As Christian,we should obey GOD and working according to Bible,working with GOD to fulfill his plan(which was written in Bible) But what they did are directly contradict to Bible And now they are the obstacle of GOD’s promise and prophecy ,their too abundant “mercy”directly contradict to GOD’s will which was written in Bible,they have not read the story of king saul? Beloved, Not All Believers For thus saith the LORD of hosts; After the glory hath he sent me unto the nations which spoiled you: for he that toucheth you toucheth the apple of his eye. For, behold, I will shake mine hand upon them, and they shall be a spoil to their servants: and ye shall know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me. Sing and rejoice, O daughter of Zion: for, lo, I come, and I will dwell in the midst of thee, saith the LORD. Zechariah 2:8-10 Believe Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. Psalms 122:6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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