GoldenEagle Posted August 4, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted August 4, 2014 Can particioation in a local church be contrary to the Christian faith? If we are the Body of Christ how can a thumb survive on his own? How does the kidney function without the liver, heart, lungs, etc? Can a Believer be an island and effectively serve God? What does Scripture say? This is something that came up God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncn Posted August 4, 2014 Group: Graduated to Heaven Followers: 6 Topic Count: 406 Topics Per Day: 0.09 Content Count: 5,248 Content Per Day: 1.14 Reputation: 1,337 Days Won: 67 Joined: 08/07/2011 Status: Offline Share Posted August 4, 2014 No man is an island in the Kingdom of God. You need other believers to build you up and sharpen you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted August 4, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 4, 2014 No man is an island in the Kingdom of God. You need other believers to build you up and sharpen you. Amen brother! Song: to listen) NO MAN IS AN ISLAND I won’t run, I will stay I’m not leaving you I know there’s friction here The struggle makes us new I wish you never thought you had to go Wish you never thought you had to leave Together we can lift each other up We can build a shelter for the weak No man is an island, we can be found No man is an island, let your guard down You don’t have to fight me, I am for you We’re not meant to live this life alone I see fear in your eyes There’s no safety here Oh, my friend, let me in I will share your tears I wish you never thought you had to go I wish you never thought you had to leave We can always lift each other up We can build a shelter for the weak, come on No man is an island, we can be found No man is an island, let your guard down Please don’t try to fight me, I am for you We’re not meant to live this life alone Through trouble, rain, or fire Let’s reach out to something higher Ain’t no life outside each other We are not alone Through trouble, rain, or fire Let’s reach out to something higher Eyes open to one another We are not alone No man is alone Why you try to fight me We don’t have to do it alone We don’t have to do it alone We don’t have to do it alone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmbld Posted August 4, 2014 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 48 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 2,491 Content Per Day: 0.55 Reputation: 1,457 Days Won: 1 Joined: 10/23/2011 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/02/1971 Share Posted August 4, 2014 If I can't have my way I'm leaving. Or If I feel offended I'm leaving. Or I wouldn't pick these worship songs so I'm leaving. Is it part of American culture to leave, or do all cultures find this many reasons to give up on each other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted August 4, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,868 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,618 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Online Share Posted August 4, 2014 Phil 2:9-12 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. KJV no I do not believe it is necessary to belong to a Church Group, however I also do not believe that it is contrary to the Faith if one does so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qnts2 Posted August 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 20 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 2,875 Content Per Day: 0.71 Reputation: 1,336 Days Won: 9 Joined: 03/13/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2014 Phil 2:9-12 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. 12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. KJV no I do not believe it is necessary to belong to a Church Group, however I also do not believe that it is contrary to the Faith if one does so. I would tend to agree. For some reason, along the way, assembling together came to be viewed as a formal Sunday service with an ordained pastor etc. Assembling together does not mean church as we know it today. That did not exist when Philipians 2 was written. At the same time, todays churches can be a way to assemble. Maybe not as effective as a group of Christians gathering together to eat together, and automatically, Christian, and scriptural topics are discussed, but church services are still a time of a form of gathering/assembling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildstar Posted August 5, 2014 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 11 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 218 Content Per Day: 0.06 Reputation: 34 Days Won: 0 Joined: 07/07/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted August 5, 2014 (edited) Can particioation in a local church be contrary to the Christian faith? If we are the Body of Christ how can a thumb survive on his own? How does the kidney function without the liver, heart, lungs, etc? Can a Believer be an island and effectively serve God? What does Scripture say? This is something that came up God bless, GE I simply dont go to church because my beliefs are different. Its like you can believe what you believe, but me and you have completely different views about Jesus. So I reject them and I expect them to reject me. Now on the other hand I dont mind gathering with like minded people who believe in God. I am against gathering with people of a different faith. Not that they don't believe in Jesus, but Catholics, Mormons and JWs believe in Jesus too but its obvious they believe in a different version. I haven't been to church since I was 'born again' on my 21st birthday. I have spiritually improved a great deal since then. Edited August 5, 2014 by Wildstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fez Posted August 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 683 Topics Per Day: 0.12 Content Count: 11,128 Content Per Day: 2.01 Reputation: 1,352 Days Won: 54 Joined: 02/03/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/07/1952 Share Posted August 5, 2014 I guess I have a different perception to many as to what church is. Sunday services are a part of church, but they are not all of church. We meet on a regular basis, just as friends might, some planned, many not. It's like family, centered around a love of Jesus. For instance this week: today a spontaneous get together of some of the women for my wife's birthday, tonight a prayer meeting, tomorrow night a leaders meeting and a meal, Thursday night a barbecue that we arranged at church last Sunday, just because we want to hang out together. Saturday, someone may phone and say let's have coffee. Like I said, church is so much more than a Sunday service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted August 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 If I can't have my way I'm leaving. Or If I feel offended I'm leaving. Or I wouldn't pick these worship songs so I'm leaving. Is it part of American culture to leave, or do all cultures find this many reasons to give up on each other? Perhaps it is beceause of the focus of the American culture on "indivualism" ( A) the belief that the needs of each person are more important than the needs of the whole society or group or B) the actions or attitudes of a person who does things without being concerned about what other people will think) instead of "collectivism" (emphasis on collective rather than individual action or identity) which has been the norm in many cultures and still is in many cultures today. Think about it. People farm out the care of their children and parents in order to have dual income families. This boils over into "Jesus came to die for me" mentality instead of "Jesus came to die for us". There's a song Above All which basically states that Jesus thought of "me" above all at the cross. What about God's glory? What about all other sinners out there? Food for thought. God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldenEagle Posted August 5, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 4 Topic Count: 764 Topics Per Day: 0.18 Content Count: 7,626 Content Per Day: 1.82 Reputation: 1,559 Days Won: 44 Joined: 10/03/2012 Status: Offline Author Share Posted August 5, 2014 I simply dont go to church because my beliefs are different. Its like you can believe what you believe, but me and you have completely different views about Jesus. So I reject them and I expect them to reject me. Now on the other hand I dont mind gathering with like minded people who believe in God. I am against gathering with people of a different faith. Not that they don't believe in Jesus, but Catholics, Mormons and JWs believe in Jesus too but its obvious they believe in a different version. I haven't been to church since I was 'born again' on my 21st birthday. I have spiritually improved a great deal since then. How do we have different views of Jesus? Is Jesus not the Son of God? Did he not die on a cross and rise again on the 3rd day? Curious how do you know my views? What is the difference between gathering with like minded people who believe in God and going to a local church? God bless, GE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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