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THE SEVEN TRUMPETS,AND THE SEVEN VIALS.

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There are seven trumpets and seven vials,but only seven angels,no more.

This only means that each angel has a trumpet in one hand, and a vial in the other.

Dont get confused.

 

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 

 

When the 7th angel has sounded; all is done.

Babylon is no more, in one day.re 18:8.

The ripen grapes have been put through the wine press.rev14:20.

Blood will flow up to a horse bridles,one thousand six hundred furlongs.

This is armageddon. The dead armies making war with the saints will be buried in the valey

of jehosaphat or also called hinom,or tophet.

 

jesse

 

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They are not the same events.  The trumpets are spoken of in Revelation 8, while the seven bowls are spoken of in Revelation 15.  You seem to the one who should be concerned about being confused.

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They are not the same events.  The trumpets are spoken of in Revelation 8, while the seven bowls are spoken of in Revelation 15.  You seem to the one who should be concerned about being confused.

I agree that they aren't the same event.  I've noticed a correlation though between trumpet 1, vial 1...trumpet 2, vial 2...etc. and based on the symbolism I think its reasonable to assume that the trumpet 1 begins judgment 1 and the pouring out of vial 1 brings it to its completion.  The same for 2, 3, etc.  Trumpets announce or commence something....emptying a vial finished it.  At least IMO.

 

Edit: The seventh trumpet and vial are likely in rapid succession.

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Can you guys please explain this scripture?

 

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

PLease dont ignore scriptures as you go along?

 

jesse.

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Can you guys please explain this scripture?

 

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

PLease dont ignore scriptures as you go along?

 

jesse.

This is how I see it:

 

The seventh trumpet:

Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.”  And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.  And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”  And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

The seventh vial:

Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “It is done.”  And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.  And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.  And huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, *came down from heaven upon men; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague *was extremely severe.

 

A lot of similarity between the seventh trumpet and vial.  Given that similarity, I'd say they are just moments apart.

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Can you guys please explain this scripture?

 

Revelation 10:7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

 

PLease dont ignore scriptures as you go along?

 

jesse.

This is how I see it:

 

The seventh trumpet:

Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever.”  And the twenty-four elders, who sit on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, saying, “We give You thanks, O Lord God, the Almighty, who are and who were, because You have taken Your great power and have begun to reign.  And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth.”  And the temple of God which is in heaven was opened; and the ark of His covenant appeared in His temple, and there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder and an earthquake and a great hailstorm.

The seventh vial:

Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl upon the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple from the throne, saying, “It is done.”  And there were flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder; and there was a great earthquake, such as there had not been since man came to be upon the earth, so great an earthquake was it, and so mighty. The great city was split into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell. Babylon the great was remembered before God, to give her the cup of the wine of His fierce wrath.  And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.  And huge hailstones, about one hundred pounds each, *came down from heaven upon men; and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail, because its plague *was extremely severe.

 

A lot of similarity between the seventh trumpet and vial.  Given that similarity, I'd say they are just moments apart.

 

Last Daze.

 

Compare them one by one.

Like: see first tumpet,then see first vial.

Sees second trumpet,then see second vial etc.

 

jesse,

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Hi Jesse

 

I can see the trumpets and vials corresponding also.

The trumpet sound is just representing an alarm (warning), that the vial will be poured out.

 

So when the first angel blows the first trumpet, a third of the trees and grass will be burn't (fires everywhere, this must be the alarm,(warning)...the sign)

that, coming next, sores on the men who received the mark.

 

and so on until the 7th trumpet.

 

Just because these details are written 8 chapters apart, many think they happen at different times.  It's for us to work out that it's the same event.

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Hi Jesse

 

I can see the trumpets and vials corresponding also.

The trumpet sound is just representing an alarm (warning), that the vial will be poured out.

 

So when the first angel blows the first trumpet, a third of the trees and grass will be burn't (fires everywhere, this must be the alarm,(warning)...the sign)

that, coming next, sores on the men who received the mark.

 

and so on until the 7th trumpet.

 

Just because these details are written 8 chapters apart, many think they happen at different times.  It's for us to work out that it's the same event.

Sister.

 

So do you agree with me that after the 7th angels has sounded; The mystery of God is finished? rev.10:7.

This means that there are no more seven angels to come? Babylon has fallen?

 

jesse.

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They are not the same events.  The trumpets are spoken of in Revelation 8, while the seven bowls are spoken of in Revelation 15.  You seem to the one who should be concerned about being confused.

One light.

 

Please elaborate?

 

jesse.

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Revelation 11:15-19
15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying,

The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
so at this time there are nations that has been converted to Christ

 

16  And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17  Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come;

because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18  And the nations were angry, - those not converted

and thy wrath is come, - to destroy them with the vial later

and the time of the dead, that they should be judged,- a resurrection

and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small

and great; - blessed the saints with rewards

and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.- destroy them who causes troubles and death
19  And the temple of God was opened in heaven,and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament:

and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. - Final Judgment coming on unconverted people.  compare this last verse to the 7th vial statement .

 

something to consider

 

 

 

 

 

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