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Exodus 31:13, 16-17 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; NKJV

This was a covenant between God and the Jewish people, the descendants of Jacob/Israel. It is not meant for gentiles or non Hebrew peoples. As a Christian I do not observe seventh day Sabbaths.

Lev. 25:2-7, v4 but in the seventh year there shall be a Sabbath of solomn rest for the land, a Sabbath of solomn rest to the Lord. You shall neither sow your field nor prune your vineyard. NKJV

This Sabbath was again for the children of Israel, and it is for breaking this Sabbath that they were sent into bondage in Babylon for 70 years. As a gentile I am not required to stop mowing my grass or trimming my fruit trees during the seventh year.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

This means celebrating Christmas, First Fruits (Easter) Saturday or Sunday. We are not to judge each other about such matters.

Rom. 14:5 One person esteems one day above another, another esteems every day.

Hebrews 4:9-10 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. NKJV

Note that works is plural. It is not good works, works of the flesh or works of the law, it is any works. To me works means the self effort of trying to be good enough or worthy of heaven. When we cease from our own efforts and allow Christ to live in us, we have ceased from our works. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. Gal 2:20 Only Christ will ever be worthy of heaven.

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I will comment on what I see here. Exodus 31:13, 16-17 Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generations as a perpetual covenant. It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever; NKJV

This was a covenant between God and the Jewish people, the descendants of Jacob/Israel. It is not meant for gentiles or non Hebrew peoples. As a Christian I do not observe seventh day Sabbaths.

So you say that the Commandments of God are just for the Jewish people? What about the other people on this earth? Is God only a God for the Jewish nation or is God a God for all the people?

 

Hebrews 4:9-10 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God. For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God did from His. NKJV

So, if the Jewish nation is God's people, where do I fit in this picture. Am I not part of God's family?

 

Read Romans Chapter nine to understand becoming part of God's family.

 

Please explain Rom 9:24-27. Am I right that I can be seen as a child of God if I am not Jewish?

 

Absolutely you are a child of God if you do those things.  When you believe in your heart that the Father raised Jesus from the dead and you confess with your mouth that Jesus is your Lord and actually mean it, he will send the Holy Spirit to dwell within you and you are to be called a son of God for you have been spiritually born into the family of God.

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There are many arguments about which day is the Sabbath day and whether it is still valid or not today. Any opinions? I use the Bible KJV and only texts from the Bible must be provided please to prove your point.

The Sabbath day is from friday evening to saturday evening.   But Jesus is the true Sabbath.   When I got saved, I entered into His rest.  I don't need the sabbath day when I have Jesus.

 

So you also agree that the Sabbath is from Friday evening to Saturday evening. I do not understand how you can say Jesus is the true Sabbath. The Sabbath is God's rest. How can Jesus be God's rest? Jesus is God's son. If we need to rest on the Sabbath like God, then we should rest on the Saturday, right?

 

what you don't seem to understand is that the Sabbath is a picture or foreshadowing of Jesus as our rest.   We rest in Christ for salvation, we rest in Him for all that we need.  Jesus is the epitome of God's rest.  He is what the Sabbath day was pointing to.  When we enter into Jesus, we are entering the rest God has provided for our hearts.

 

First of all, you did not answer my questions but you tell me that I don't seem to understand. I would like answers to my questions Please. Maybe I will understand after you have answered my questions.

 

I understand somewhat. To keep the Sabbath day holy is one of the 10 commandments. It is certainly friday evening to saturday evening. I believe we are under grace but know the law is good. I want to understand God more and there may be something special if you keep it and honor God with it. Keeping it on any day we decide doesn't really make sense to me because God said to keep that day holy, and it was on the 7th day he rested, not one we choose to decide. I haven't found that in scripture to decide our own sabbath. This scripture is true but it is also true that what ever you do you should do by faith and not be doubleminded. That being said, I am free under grace but see the importance in a sabbath.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

 

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I understand somewhat. To keep the Sabbath day holy is one of the 10 commandments. It is certainly friday evening to saturday evening. I believe we are under grace but know the law is good. I want to understand God more and there may be something special if you keep it and honor God with it. Keeping it on any day we decide doesn't really make sense to me because God said to keep that day holy, and it was on the 7th day he rested, not one we choose to decide. I haven't found that in scripture to decide our own sabbath. This scripture is true but it is also true that what ever you do you should do by faith and not be doubleminded. That being said, I am free under grace but see the importance in a sabbath.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

 

 

None of my Christian friends go to church on Sunday as the Sabbath....    Going to church is not a rest, it is a lot of work for a lot of people.   We go there to worship and eat and have fun and enjoy each other's company praising the Lord.....   but a day of rest......   not even close.

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I understand somewhat. To keep the Sabbath day holy is one of the 10 commandments. It is certainly friday evening to saturday evening. I believe we are under grace but know the law is good. I want to understand God more and there may be something special if you keep it and honor God with it. Keeping it on any day we decide doesn't really make sense to me because God said to keep that day holy, and it was on the 7th day he rested, not one we choose to decide. I haven't found that in scripture to decide our own sabbath. This scripture is true but it is also true that what ever you do you should do by faith and not be doubleminded. That being said, I am free under grace but see the importance in a sabbath.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

 

 

None of my Christian friends go to church on Sunday as the Sabbath....    Going to church is not a rest, it is a lot of work for a lot of people.   We go there to worship and eat and have fun and enjoy each other's company praising the Lord.....   but a day of rest......   not even close.

 

I am on duty this Sunday. Putting out chairs and tables, sorting out kids stuff, checking toilets for supplies, doing announcements, taking tithes, etc.

 

Must admit I am happy it only happens every two months or so when we are on the roster. Not much rest, and not much worship on this Sunday. Just work.

 

Someone has to do it...

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"Six days thou shalt do thy work..."

How many folks that preach Christian sabbath observance work a six day week to comply with the commandment, I wonder? I never hear anybody preach the first half of the commandment, only the 7th day part...

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I understand somewhat. To keep the Sabbath day holy is one of the 10 commandments. It is certainly friday evening to saturday evening. I believe we are under grace but know the law is good. I want to understand God more and there may be something special if you keep it and honor God with it. Keeping it on any day we decide doesn't really make sense to me because God said to keep that day holy, and it was on the 7th day he rested, not one we choose to decide. I haven't found that in scripture to decide our own sabbath. This scripture is true but it is also true that what ever you do you should do by faith and not be doubleminded. That being said, I am free under grace but see the importance in a sabbath.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

 

 

None of my Christian friends go to church on Sunday as the Sabbath....    Going to church is not a rest, it is a lot of work for a lot of people.   We go there to worship and eat and have fun and enjoy each other's company praising the Lord.....   but a day of rest......   not even close.

 

You're right. But isn't the Sabbath day a day set aside unto the Lord to worship, fellowship, and learn. Kind of how Sundays are used. They went to the synagogues on the Sabbath right?

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The Pharisees and Sadducee upheld the "law" of the Sabbath and every time Jesus taught them what they believed was not the truth.  Read Matthew 12, which is backed up by Mark 2 and Luke 6.  While you are at it, check out Luke 13 & 14.

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I have a friend who is a Seventh Day Adventist and  told me once  that my salvation could be as risk if I don't worship on Saturday.  I told her I would take my risk.  I also told her that if that was the case then it was about what I had done that saves us instead of what Jesus did for us on the cross.  We never brought up that subject again.  I believe we are to worship all the time not just on one certain day..                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

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I understand somewhat. To keep the Sabbath day holy is one of the 10 commandments. It is certainly friday evening to saturday evening. I believe we are under grace but know the law is good. I want to understand God more and there may be something special if you keep it and honor God with it. Keeping it on any day we decide doesn't really make sense to me because God said to keep that day holy, and it was on the 7th day he rested, not one we choose to decide. I haven't found that in scripture to decide our own sabbath. This scripture is true but it is also true that what ever you do you should do by faith and not be doubleminded. That being said, I am free under grace but see the importance in a sabbath.

Col. 2:16 Let no man judge you in food or drink, or regarding a festaval or a new moon or sabbaths,

 

 

None of my Christian friends go to church on Sunday as the Sabbath....    Going to church is not a rest, it is a lot of work for a lot of people.   We go there to worship and eat and have fun and enjoy each other's company praising the Lord.....   but a day of rest......   not even close.

 

You're right. But isn't the Sabbath day a day set aside unto the Lord to worship, fellowship, and learn. Kind of how Sundays are used. They went to the synagogues on the Sabbath right?

 

Scripturally, the sabbath day was a day of rest not a day set aside for worship.  All days were days of worship. 

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I also believe in worship everyday. By all means!! I do not think we are bound by the law. Is it not one of the 10 commandments. Do we keep 9 of them and disregard this one? Not keep this day holy?

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