Persuaded Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 0 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 249 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 107 Days Won: 2 Joined: 06/29/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 [Gen 14:14 KJV] And when Abram heard that his brother was taken captive, he armed his trained [servants], born in his own house, three hundred and eighteen, and pursued [them] unto Dan. Some things, God expected Abram to leave to Him. He was told to stay in Canaan, but he went to Egypt when food was scarce and got himself into a bunch of trouble. But in the passage above, we see him taking the responsibility and working to ensure his family's safety. It isn't a trivial thing to train and arm 300-odd men. It's an interesting theological dilemma, figuring out where trust in God ends and personal responsibility begins... (and I don't own a gun, and haven't since my Daisy bb gun burst its air pump) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 1 Timothy 5:8 ESV / 41 helpful votes But if anyone does not provide for his relatives, and especially for members of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LadyC Posted September 2, 2014 Share Posted September 2, 2014 ...when the walls of jerusalem were being rebuilt, it was with sword in hand to defend those who would tear it down, or who would bring harm to the jews. (nehemiah chapter 4). That's pretty good obscure Biblical knowledge, LadyC. ;-) well, i've read the bible three times in the last four years, so i've learned a lot. blogged my way through one of those times, and REALLY gained a much deeper understanding of some subjects! sadly though, i forget more than i remember these days. Alright then you won't mind if I test you a little. I know what you mean about forgetting as days go by, my 'hey day' of knowledge was late 80s - first half of the 90s. ;-) LOL, you can test me, but i can't promise i'll pass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Psalm 82:4 Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Exodus 22:2-3 2 "If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Esther 8:11-12 11 By these letters the king permitted the Jews who were in every city to gather together and protect their lives -- to destroy, kill, and annihilate all the forces of any people or province that would assault them, both little children and women, and to plunder their possessions.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Luke 22:35-39 And He said to them, "When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?" So they said, "Nothing." 36 Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 “Blessed be the LORD my strength which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight,” David writes in Psalms 144:1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
He giveth more grace Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Royal Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 123 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,049 Content Per Day: 0.32 Reputation: 267 Days Won: 9 Joined: 10/22/2006 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Esther 8:11-12 11 By these letters the king permitted the Jews who were in every city to gather together and protect their lives -- to destroy, kill, and annihilate all the forces of any people or province that would assault them, both little children and women, and to plunder their possessions..Excellent, both post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted September 2, 2014 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 593 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 55,875 Content Per Day: 7.55 Reputation: 27,624 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted September 2, 2014 Our pastor does not carry as far as I know, but when I asked his opinion he told me that if I wanted it was OK with him and if some crazy breakes into the church he'll duck and we can deal with the person..... I thought that was more of a joke a couple of years ago when we were talking about it but with ISIS just across the border from El Paso, it's starting to not be so humorous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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