petula Posted March 11, 2015 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 3 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 1,499 Content Per Day: 0.43 Reputation: 1,665 Days Won: 0 Joined: 10/17/2014 Status: Offline Birthday: 03/31/1955 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I agree with Shiloh ,the bible has to be our answer to all of our questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted March 11, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.24 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted March 11, 2015 Christians, whose body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, cannot be posed by any demonic spirits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyAngeL Posted March 11, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 23 Topic Count: 155 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 7,464 Content Per Day: 1.02 Reputation: 8,810 Days Won: 57 Joined: 03/30/2004 Status: Offline Birthday: 12/12/1952 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Christians, whose body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, cannot be posed by any demonic spirits. Quick just spoke the truth. Christians cannot be possessed by an evil spirit, not with the Holy Spirit living in that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevenseas Posted March 11, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 30 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 3,373 Content Per Day: 0.76 Reputation: 683 Days Won: 22 Joined: 02/28/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted March 11, 2015 While I do believe that Christians cannot be possessed, it should not be thought that the devil leaves them alone either. Sometimes, the tendency is to act as though the devil cannot challenge a believer...I don't mean the devil personally of course...but demonic spirits This is not something to fear as we know we have the victory already won by our Savior. Unfortuneatly, Christian bookstores harbor an inordinate amount of books by authors who propose far more about the devil then the Bible allows. The Bible does not ignore the devil or his interaction with believers, but the focus is on Christ's victory over the devil and our victory in turn if we are in Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted March 11, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 596 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,043 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,785 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted March 11, 2015 I agree with Shiloh in that a Christian can't be possessed, however if we do still have some sin in our lives, it leaves a door open to be bothered by or harassed by demons. And if you are leading a really good Christian life, they will mess with you in any number of ways. But Possess where you have no control over things........ no I don't believe they can do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuelf324 Posted October 21, 2015 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 2 Topic Count: 4 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 210 Content Per Day: 0.07 Reputation: 160 Days Won: 0 Joined: 09/28/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted October 21, 2015 Believers cannot be demon possesed due to the Holy Ghost inside of the them. Light and dark cannot coexist their contrary to each other. You can be demon oppressed because our flesh thrives on sin which invites demon involvement in our lives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7thseal Posted October 30, 2015 Group: Senior Member Followers: 2 Topic Count: 14 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 825 Content Per Day: 0.13 Reputation: 186 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/13/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted October 30, 2015 Jesus said that people who have had demons cast out of them are "empty" vessels right before the demons are able to return. How can a Christian who has the Holy Spirit be "empty" so that a demon might possess them?Jesus is the Word made flesh. Holy Spirit will always point to Jesus... the Word. If a person should choose not to apply the Word after being cleansed, are they empty? The demons fear God... if His Word isn't found in the house after its been cleansed then what's stopping them from returning and bringing more who are more wicked than they? A house led by the Lord will obey... the Word.... Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reinitin Posted January 11, 2016 Group: Diamond Member Followers: 13 Topic Count: 51 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 2,366 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,150 Days Won: 9 Joined: 01/10/2016 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 3/10/2015 at 0:55 PM, Seeking1 said: I am testing the doctrine of whether or not Christians can have demons. I have some questions about this for both sides of the issue. 1.) Question for those who say Christians CANNOT have demons: Why would the apostles cast demons out of people AT ALL if belief of the gospel alone would ALWAYS cause them to be removed immediately for SOLE habitation by the Holy Spirit? Remember, this is POST not PRE Pentecost. This isn't OT stuff or before Christ died on the cross for our sins. As many on both sides assert, it is pointless to try and remove demons from someone who refuses to believe the gospel or even misunderstands it somehow, as the demons will not only return later but also in greater numbers the second time around, making the last state worse than the first. Since this is at least generally true, why would the apostles participate in and even promote such a thing? This would definitely lead to confusion, and God is not supposed to be the author of confusion. Why didn't the apostles simply share the gospel and leave the demons inside the unsaved? It could definitely lead to the idea of Christians being able to have them by doing such a thing rather than sharing the gospel alone. Exorcisms should be considered un-biblical in general then and even a hindrance to delivering the untainted gospel if ONLY the unsaved can have them. 2.) Question for those who say Christians CAN have demons: Jesus said that people who have had demons cast out of them are "empty" vessels right before the demons are able to return. How can a Christian who has the Holy Spirit be "empty" so that a demon might possess them? This argument is often used as an apologetic against those who say Christians can have demons. I think alot of people confuse "the flesh" being corrupt and full of evil desires with demons. I also think some people do not walk in "the Spirit" but the could. Ephesians is a pretty good read for understanding the flesh, spirit, demon, position in christ, made new, sealed, moved from kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of his son, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted January 11, 2016 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted January 11, 2016 On 3/10/2015 at 10:55 AM, Seeking1 said: I am testing the doctrine of whether or not Christians can have demons. I have some questions about this for both sides of the issue. 1.) Question for those who say Christians CANNOT have demons: Why would the apostles cast demons out of people AT ALL if belief of the gospel alone would ALWAYS cause them to be removed immediately for SOLE habitation by the Holy Spirit? Remember, this is POST not PRE Pentecost. This isn't OT stuff or before Christ died on the cross for our sins. As many on both sides assert, it is pointless to try and remove demons from someone who refuses to believe the gospel or even misunderstands it somehow, as the demons will not only return later but also in greater numbers the second time around, making the last state worse than the first. Since this is at least generally true, why would the apostles participate in and even promote such a thing? This would definitely lead to confusion, and God is not supposed to be the author of confusion. Why didn't the apostles simply share the gospel and leave the demons inside the unsaved? It could definitely lead to the idea of Christians being able to have them by doing such a thing rather than sharing the gospel alone. Exorcisms should be considered un-biblical in general then and even a hindrance to delivering the untainted gospel if ONLY the unsaved can have them. 2.) Question for those who say Christians CAN have demons: Jesus said that people who have had demons cast out of them are "empty" vessels right before the demons are able to return. How can a Christian who has the Holy Spirit be "empty" so that a demon might possess them? This argument is often used as an apologetic against those who say Christians can have demons. The word you are using "empty" actually refers to being clean. There have been instances of christians being demon possessed. If one opens themselves to the demonic, one can be possessed, but only if God permits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
de1929 Posted January 19, 2016 Group: Removed from Forums for Breaking Terms of Service Followers: 1 Topic Count: 1 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 71 Content Per Day: 0.02 Reputation: 10 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/19/2016 Status: Offline Birthday: 11/19/1975 Share Posted January 19, 2016 (edited) - Edited January 19, 2016 by de1929 first time, i don't know how to quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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