Willa Posted April 16, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,204 Content Per Day: 3.35 Reputation: 16,629 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 16, 2015 I see no relationship between fundamentalists and the emergent church. By definition they are complete opposites. There is a branch of the emergent church that teaches replacement theology, which has never been advocated by fundamentalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I see no relationship between fundamentalists and the emergent church. By definition they are complete opposites. There is a branch of the emergent church that teaches replacement theology, which has never been advocated by fundamentalists. Thy word is true from the beginning: and every one of thy righteous judgments endureth for ever. Psalms 119:160 Fundamentalism is built on five tenets of the Christian faith, although there is much more to the movement than adherence to these tenets: 1) The Bible is literally true. Associated with this tenet is the belief that the Bible is inerrant, that is, without error and free from all contradictions. 2) The virgin birth and deity of Christ. Fundamentalists believe that Jesus was born of the virgin Mary and conceived by the Holy Spirit and that He was and is the Son of God, fully human and fully divine. 3) The substitutionary atonement of Jesus Christ on the cross. Fundamentalism teaches that salvation is obtained only through God’s grace and human faith in Christ’s crucifixion for the sins of mankind. 4) The bodily resurrection of Jesus. On the third day after His crucifixion, Jesus rose from the grave and now sits at the right hand of God the Father. 5) The authenticity of Jesus’ miracles as recorded in Scripture and the literal, pre-millennial second coming of Christ to earth. Read more: http://www.gotquestions.org/fundamentalism.html#ixzz3XXEpheK0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted April 17, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.37 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 17, 2015 I see no relationship between fundamentalists and the emergent church. By definition they are complete opposites. In theory. You failed to note the decline in true fundamentalism which I brought to your attention. Those who are now in the Emergent Church had fundamentalist roots. Take Rob Bell as an example: After graduating from high school, Bell attended Wheaton College in Illinois...Bell moved to Pasadena, California to pursue this calling for teaching and received a M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary. Was Fuller Fundamentalist at one time? And did it not become Neo-Evangelical? And is Rob Bell not one of the Emergents? And is he not a Universalist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2015 Blessings Ezra,,,, May I ask why you think "It is a shame" that I think I was unaware of these beliefs before Old School brought this to my attention??Actually I believe I studied this in school a long long long long time ago,,,,,,,,many things that I have once learned are since forgotten,,,,,,,,,,but a "shame",I don't think so? To God be the Glory in ALL things!!! many Blessings With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 Blessings Old School I don't get this at all.......I don't get the point or the case...... "God says, 'I don’t care what you believe, how you worship, etc. Just be good.' What,where is that Written????God most certainly cares what we believe in... I don't know where it's written, but it's not written in the King James or any other Bible because the author of this article -- from The American Spectator -- is trying to explain that liberal Christianity is reductionist (and therefore unbiblical). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool2 Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 7 Topic Count: 701 Topics Per Day: 0.13 Content Count: 7,511 Content Per Day: 1.35 Reputation: 1,759 Days Won: 0 Joined: 01/16/2009 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1955 Author Share Posted April 18, 2015 ... Wow where do I start. Where does it say anywhere in the Bible where God says I don't care what you believe, just be good?...It doesn't.See above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneLight Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 22 Topic Count: 1,294 Topics Per Day: 0.21 Content Count: 31,762 Content Per Day: 5.26 Reputation: 9,760 Days Won: 115 Joined: 09/14/2007 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2015 I see no relationship between fundamentalists and the emergent church. By definition they are complete opposites. In theory. You failed to note the decline in true fundamentalism which I brought to your attention. Those who are now in the Emergent Church had fundamentalist roots. Take Rob Bell as an example: After graduating from high school, Bell attended Wheaton College in Illinois...Bell moved to Pasadena, California to pursue this calling for teaching and received a M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary. Was Fuller Fundamentalist at one time? And did it not become Neo-Evangelical? And is Rob Bell not one of the Emergents? And is he not a Universalist? What defines a belief system, as in Fundamentalist or Emergent, are not the people who call themselves such, but the theology it is built upon. Fundamentalism is not changing, those who call themselves fundamentalist are. Just because Rob Bell turned from one theology to another, he did not change the theology behind what he left, or what he joined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 304 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,094 Content Per Day: 4.65 Reputation: 27,773 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2015 Blessings One Light.... So very true,,,,as in any belief system ,......very well said,,,,,And sadly,instead of seeking God ,many of these people seem to move from one to the other until they find whatever suits their lifestyle and yes indeed,they do change......... Getting back to the OP,I would have liked the Author,Mr Carlin ,to have elaborated more & put more emphasis on the biggest "reduction" of all,,,,,,,,Jesus finished work on the Cross...... Praise & Glory to our Living Redeemer,Our Lord & Savior Christ Jesus! With love-in Christ,Kwik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willa Posted April 18, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 68 Topic Count: 185 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 14,204 Content Per Day: 3.35 Reputation: 16,629 Days Won: 30 Joined: 08/14/2012 Status: Offline Share Posted April 18, 2015 I see no relationship between fundamentalists and the emergent church. By definition they are complete opposites.In theory. You failed to note the decline in true fundamentalism which I brought to your attention. Those who are now in the Emergent Church had fundamentalist roots. Take Rob Bell as an example: After graduating from high school, Bell attended Wheaton College in Illinois...Bell moved to Pasadena,California to pursue this calling for teaching and received a M.Div. from Fuller Theological Seminary.Was Fuller Fundamentalist at one time? And did it not become Neo-Evangelical? And is Rob Bell not one of the Emergents? And is he not a Universalist?Tragicly, too many people have gone to seminaries searching for God and are not saved. He apparently parroted the right things at one time but unbelief crept into his theology, possibly due to Fuller's deviation from believing in the verbal plenery inspiration of the Bible. I personally doubt if he was ever saved, but it is possible that pride overcame him and caused his fall and unbelief. Most fundamentalists that I have known have preferred Dallas to Fuller, which was established with the idea of compromise. Veritas has a much better reputation than Fuller.It is tragic the Bell has led so many toward the hell he denies. But the emergent church has as many faces as their are devient pastors. The Episcopal church has produced its share of heritics as well. Remember James Pike? I don't think you can blame fundamentalism for the whole of the emergent church. But you can bet that satan will try to pervert the truth on the fronts that are most dangerous to his cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonky Posted April 20, 2015 Group: Nonbeliever Followers: 6 Topic Count: 2 Topics Per Day: 0.00 Content Count: 738 Content Per Day: 0.21 Reputation: 346 Days Won: 0 Joined: 05/28/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted April 20, 2015 If we were to truly reduce religion down to it's core it's really about avoiding non-existence. The hope of a pleasant afterlife. Is that not what this is all about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts