thereselittleflower Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 The "flesh" remains in the believer but it cannot dominate the those who "walk in the Spirit". At the same time, there is internal warfare (flesh vs Spirit), as well as external warfare (Satan vs saint). To ignore the battle is to be vulnerable. The Amalekites were the bitter foes of Israel, and they represent the flesh. But as they were utterly destroyed, the flesh will one day be utterly destroyed.What do you mean by "the flesh will one day be utterly destroyed." ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside.Are you saying the body is not really important? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,061 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,390 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside.Are you saying the body is not really important?God says: Gen 3:1919 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground;for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.KJV2 Peter 3:10-1110 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which theheavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt withfervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of personsought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,KJVIf He is returning the body to dust and then burning that dust completely up... Iwould say no! Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside.Are you saying the body is not really important?God says: Gen 3:1919 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground;for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.KJV2 Peter 3:10-1110 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which theheavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt withfervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of personsought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,KJVIf He is returning the body to dust and then burning that dust completely up... Iwould say no! Love, StevenSo Jesus came to save something that wasn't important, and isn't worth saving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missmuffet Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 34 Topic Count: 1,990 Topics Per Day: 0.48 Content Count: 48,688 Content Per Day: 11.83 Reputation: 30,343 Days Won: 226 Joined: 01/11/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside.Are you saying the body is not really important?I am saying that the soul is more important than the body because the soul is eternal.Like enoob said our earthly bodies are perishable.We will have a glorified body when we get to heaven.Very different than our earthly body.Our earthly body just houses our soul and spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezra Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 134 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 8,142 Content Per Day: 2.36 Reputation: 6,612 Days Won: 20 Joined: 11/02/2014 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 The "flesh" remains in the believer but it cannot dominate the those who "walk in the Spirit". At the same time, there is internal warfare (flesh vs Spirit), as well as external warfare (Satan vs saint). To ignore the battle is to be vulnerable. The Amalekites were the bitter foes of Israel, and they represent the flesh. But as they were utterly destroyed, the flesh will one day be utterly destroyed.What do you mean by "the flesh will one day be utterly destroyed."The "flesh" is the corrupt sinful Adamic human nature that resides within all human beings and is the source of all the sinful lusts. It will be utterly destroyed or eradicated when Christ comes for His saints at the Rapture and perfects them -- body, soul, and spirit (1 Jn 3:1-3). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) sinful Adamic human nature that resides within all human beings and is the source of all the sinful lusts. It will be utterly destroyed or eradicated when Christ comes for His saints at the Rapture and perfects them -- body, soul, and spirit (1 Jn 3:1-3). AmenRomans 12:1[ Living Sacrifices to God ] I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 1 Peter 2:5you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. Edited September 9, 2015 by *Zion* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enoob57 Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 35 Topic Count: 99 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 41,061 Content Per Day: 7.97 Reputation: 21,390 Days Won: 76 Joined: 03/13/2010 Status: Offline Birthday: 07/27/1957 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside. Are you saying the body is not really important? God says: Gen 3:1919 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground;for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.KJV 2 Peter 3:10-1110 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which theheavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt withfervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of personsought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,KJV If He is returning the body to dust and then burning that dust completely up... Iwould say no! Love, Steven So Jesus came to save something that wasn't important, and isn't worth saving? You have logical skills... isn't self evident by His Word When you set something out to be burneddoes it have value to you? God came into the world to Spiritually redeem... and not that which was 1stcreated for the second created in Jesus is without end... 1 John 2:15-1715 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world,the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, andthe lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world. 17 And theworld passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.KJVThis is what helps us to understand God's plan to make all things new... first God began us in a place of sin toeducate us why sin is to be wholly contained in hell where only God's wrath abides forever. As we grow andunderstand s/Spiritually this reality, that is here, we are drawn into the beauty of His Holiness in The SecondAdam Jesus our Lord. There is within my flesh that which is not redeemed and a daily struggle to bring intosubmission to Him- when I fail I am in s/Spirit able to immediately ask for God's forgiveness and He cleansme from that failure and I learn more why I hate the structure and identification of this place more and more!Luke 14:2626 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, andbrethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.KJVWhen one becomes s/Spiritually born and attuned to God in the proper pathway of life eternal the 1st seat inone's life becomes the only seat and God will f/Fellowship with us forever as His possessed seat... and it's true locationis hereHeb 1:9-139 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hathanointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginninghast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment;12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same,and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my righthand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool?KJV Love, Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Zion* Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 16 Topic Count: 154 Topics Per Day: 0.04 Content Count: 3,245 Content Per Day: 0.78 Reputation: 2,397 Days Won: 9 Joined: 12/09/2012 Status: Offline Birthday: 05/11/1984 Share Posted September 9, 2015 Love it, Steven. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thereselittleflower Posted September 9, 2015 Group: Royal Member Followers: 6 Topic Count: 58 Topics Per Day: 0.02 Content Count: 5,457 Content Per Day: 1.70 Reputation: 4,220 Days Won: 37 Joined: 07/01/2015 Status: Offline Share Posted September 9, 2015 (edited) Ever seen a dead person?They look vacant.Like their skin is just a housing for what was really important which once lived inside.Are you saying the body is not really important?I am saying that the soul is more important than the body because the soul is eternal.Like enoob said our earthly bodies are perishable.We will have a glorified body when we get to heaven.Very different than our earthly body.Our earthly body just houses our soul and spirit.Are you aware that this belief that our soul is more important than our body originated in gnosticism, and not christianity? Gnosticism taught that we lose our physical body, that it merely "housed" our soul/spirit. To combat gnosticism and it's teachings about the body, the Apostle's creed specifically says "I believe in the resurrection of the body"Why would we have a different body in heaven, instead of our current body raised incorruptable and giorified in heaven, when Jesus came to save our body as well as our soul? Edited September 9, 2015 by thereselittleflower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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