What is the difference in the rapture and the second coming?

[missmuffet]

There is a difference.A very big difference.

[ENOCH2010]

No difference at all, they are the same event

[Watching for Jesus]

I believe the rapture will happen when the 7th trumpet sounds on the day of the Lord (one 24 hour day).  This will be the Second Coming of Christ.

 

Jeff

[Omegaman 3.0]

The difference is that the 'Rapture" is the Saints (living Christians at Christ's future coming) being caught up to be with Him. Saints, throughout the New Testament, are referred to as the elect or chosen.

 

Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 1 Thess 4:17

 

The 2nd coming is Christ returning  after a time of great trouble:

 

9“But immediately after the tribulation of those days THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL from the sky, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30“And then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the SON OF MAN COMING ON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory. 31“And He will send forth His angels with A GREAT TRUMPET and THEY WILL GATHER TOGETHER His elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.   Matt 24

 

Opinions vary on whether or not these events (the Rapture and the 2nd coming) happen in an uninterrupted sequence or are separated by some number of years. However, the Bible never says they are separated by any significant time.

[Ezra]

There is a difference.A very big difference.

Difference between night and day. The Blessed Hope vs Universal Mourning.

[missmuffet]

The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows:

1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14).

2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9;Revelation 3:10).

3) The rapture is the removal of believers from the earth as an act of deliverance (1 Thessalonians 4:13-17,5:9). The second coming includes the removal of unbelievers as an act of judgment (Matthew 24:40-41).

4) The rapture will be secret and instant (1 Corinthians 15:50-54). The second coming will be visible to all (Revelation 1:7;Matthew 24:29-30).

5) The second coming of Christ will not occur until after certain other end-times events take place (2 Thessalonians 2:4;Matthew 24:15-30; Revelation chapters 6–18). The rapture is imminent; it could take place at any moment (Titus 2:13;1 Thessalonians 4:13-18;1 Corinthians 15:50-54).

Why is it important to keep the rapture and the second coming distinct?

1) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, believers will have to go through the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9;Revelation 3:10).

2) If the rapture and the second coming are the same event, the return of Christ is not imminent—there are many things which must occur before He can return (Matthew 24:4-30).

3) In describing the tribulation period, Revelation chapters 6–19 nowhere mentions the church. During the tribulation—also called “the time of trouble for Jacob” (Jeremiah 30:7)—God will again turn His primary attention to Israel (Romans 11:17-31).

The rapture and second coming are similar but separate events. Both involve Jesus returning. Both are end-times events. However, it is crucially important to recognize the differences. In summary, the rapture is the return of Christ in the clouds to remove all believers from the earth before the time of God’s wrath. The second coming is the return of Christ to the earth to bring the tribulation to an end and to defeat the Antichrist and his evil world empire.

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/difference-Rapture-Second-Coming.html#ixzz3dO12U6TL

[Marilyn C]

Hi bopeep1909,

 

While I believe with you as regards the pre-trib. catching away to be with the Lord I do NOT agree that the Body of Christ will come back down to earth. That is NOT our purpose. Now the `Dominionists` (kingdom now people) have picked up on the fact that pre-tribs. mid & post tribs have all been taught that the Body of Christ comes back down to earth, thus, so they say, well why does it matter.

 

Of course, as you so clearly presented people will have to go through the trib. terrifying times, however the error of the teaching that the Body of Christ comes back down to earth, tends to make people think, well we all end up the same (on earth) so `what ever`..... The truth however is that we need to know what God`s eternal purpose is for the Body of Christ, so that we can by faith believe Him, & look for that `high calling,` as the apostle Paul says.

 

Blessings, sis, Marilyn.

[Sister]

Hello Bopeep

 

The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows:

 

1) At the rapture, believers meet the Lord in the air (1 Thessalonians 4:17). At the second coming, believers return with the Lord to the earth (Revelation 19:14).

 

 

1 Thessalonians 4:16   For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Thessalonians 4:17   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

 

Revelation 19:14   And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Revelation 19:15   And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
 

 

1 Thessalonians 4 is giving a sneak preview of all the saints meeting the Lord in the air.  We get a glimpse of this angle.  We know who they are that are in this resurrection.

The dead in Christ are raised FIRST, then those who are alive picked up.  - just them in this one, and in this order.

 

Rev 19  is showing us the angle of the saints already there.  All the saints together.  The 1st Resurrection has already come.  It doesn't even mention they are touching the earth yet?  They are coming out of heaven which means they have received their crowns and they stay in the air all assembled with Christ.

 

 

Something is going on below now....

We know that at the 6th angel the nations of the earth gather at Armageddon to battle against the Lord.

They are only assembled, ready to war.  Everyone has his orders and move to their position with their weapons.

At the 7th trump the Lord is going to smite those armies.    All those soldiers will be killed.  This is the winepress where the blood reaches the horses bridles.  200 million men gathered there, that is a lot of death and a lot of blood.  This is the third reaping. 

 

 

There are 3 reapings.  See below.  I copied my reply from another post

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The first reaping is of the 144,000.  They are taken up first just before the earth is reaped.

The 2nd reaping of the earth is 1 Thess 4 - this one.

 

All the saints are all picked up by the 7th trump to meet the Lord in the air, the 1st resurrection completed and during this same trump, the armies are gathered below. The saints will witness the 3rd reaping from the air.

 

The armies below are on the earth, but above, from the air, the Lamb slays those armies with that sword coming out of his mouth. With his Word.  At his command, with his whole host of heaven with him.  This would include the angels.  The saints are there in Christ's glory, and in his presence, ....they are Christ's witnesses, and having the honour of being above with the righteous and not below with the wicked about to receive judgement..

 

 

 

1st Reaping (of the first fruits)

 Revelation 14:1   And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

This is not a resurrection but a quickening.

This comes before the 1st resurrection.  The Firstfruits are FIRST.  Common sense.

Not to be confused with those taken up after the dead in Christ rise first....  (1 Thess 4:16-17) They are separate.

 

2nd Reaping (of the earth)

Revelation 14:15   And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

1st Resurrection.  Holy Saints picked up.

The rest will stay.

 

3rd Reaping (Armageddon)

Revelation 14:18   And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

Revelation 14:19   And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

Revelation 14:20   And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

All those armies who are gathered against the Lord, they will be put through the wine press (destroyed)

 

 

 

 

[Littlelambseativy]

Rapture ..pre tribulation ...2nd coming ....post tribulation.

[Sister]

The important differences between the rapture and second coming are as follows:

2) The second coming occurs after the great and terrible tribulation (Revelation chapters 6–19). The rapture occurs before the tribulation (1 Thessalonians 5:9;Revelation 3:10).

Thats right, the second coming is at the end of the tribulation.

 

You say the rapture occurs before the tribulation and you give this scripture which does not plainly state what you are suggesting;

1 Thessalonians 5:9   For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

 

Of course God has not appointed us to wrath.  But who is he talking to?

 

John 6:27   Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

 

This meat has to come from Christ, it is Christ's flesh.  His flesh is meat indeed.  Cannot eat anothers flesh/meat (teachings)

The christian world have been eating all sorts of flesh and getting their information from other sources also.

We need to stay inside the scriptures, because this is where Christ's flesh is.  His Word and his teachings. 

The holy spirit will reveal his Word to us, and help us understand what he is saying.

We need to look deeper into what the scriptures say.  This is our source.

We were warned that the enemy came and planted the tares in God's field. These tares have been growing the whole time, infiltrating the truth.

 

So there are a lot of different doctrines mingled in with the truth.

If we have not eaten Christ's flesh, which is listened to his instructions, then we can be deceived,

and will practice and preach error.  The fruit we produce will be a little rotten.

Simply because we are not reading enough for ourselves and really delving into scripture.

But Christ still loves us, and gives us another chance, in this case we must therefore be purified with fire, it's not a wrath, but a chastisement.

Christ did not destine wrath for the faithful.  There is an exception.

 

The wrath comes at the end, 3 1/2 years before the coming.

There are 144,000 sealed who follow the Lamb.

Put two and two together.

and you get your little flock you want to belong to.

 

If we stick to Christ's guidelines, then we will be sealed.

And I mean really stick to it 100% with a pure love for the truth.

Many christians hate to be corrected when the truth is presented, and can sometimes become quite bitter.

This ought not to be so.