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who was the first man into heaven? Moses, Enoch, Elijah Abraham, Abal, David  or Christ.

 

Please show scriptures rightly divided

 

For the record I believe the answer is Christ.(the first fruit, the first begotten from the dead, the first born from the dead the first among many brethren ,He that was dead and is alive for ever more.) Amen! 

 

And what did the Apostle Paul mean when he wrote these all died in faith not having received the promises?  Hebrews 11 

 

what does Romans 5:14 mean? nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that ha not sinned after the similitude of Adam transgression, who is a figure of him to come.

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Amen~!

 

From Heaven To The Cross And Back Up To Heaven

 

And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. 1 Timothy 3:16

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Jesus was the first into heaven.Jesus was totally human and totally divine.All those who died before He was crucified on the cross went to Paradise.

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who was the first man into heaven? Moses, Enoch, Elijah Abraham, Abal, David or Christ.

Please show scriptures rightly divided

Enoch:

a) was taken in heaven with his body, I am not sure how to say it.

b) he may was a righteous man.

c)as offspring of Adam death rein upon him. ( he was born with the fallen Adamic inheritance )

d) God had to take him, meaning he did not have

a heavenly inheritance, to the contrary he had the Hades as his inheritance.

e) we may say that he was abducted from the devil, before he die.

f)that happen before the flood.

g) God did not judge the world, at that time, as to start a new generation like Noah.

Moses was also in the same situation, but was the one who God use and live both before and after the Law was given, and the Lord God introduce him self as the King and Father of Jacobs house. Moses was found with a disobedience if that matter.

Moses also was of the new family of God, the one from Abraham and the sircumsition.

Elias, the same also was with death inheritance,

perhaps something new , he spoke and things happen, perhaps the prophetic, from the sircumsition also ( we may see that he was a litle like Jesus with his wonders, BUT still with death in him, he came from the eartly seed. He had an earthly Father.

Moses and Elias for educational proposes had the BOSSOM of Abraham as their inheritance, wich was not in the heavens for sure.

Now let's go to Jesus and make a distinction:

a) he did not have death in him, HE HAD LIFE he was not from the human seed, that you know, I say it for the curious once, who may read the post, he was the word, conceive by the power of God in HOLY MARY let's say by grace not to have any argeements,

b) first time a man like that on earth, the son of God, by the testimony at that time from Jonh the Baptis, which Jesus did not denied and the disciples wittness, and the Heavenly Father confirm from heaven (and that's not the only time)

at the time of his baptism.

let's go directly to the point. Jesus said: I have come from above and that's where I am going. I will descent to the very bottoms of the earth but also I will ascent to the very high of heavens. God raise him From the dead and gave him the heavens for his inheritance (in my Fathers house are many mansions, so where I will be you will be also) He open a door for the heavens not for him only but also for his own, so they will be together.

You know that he will baptize with the holy spirit.

Let's go to the women, I have not go up to the Father yet. At the time of the ansention.

a) God did not sent transportation, the way he did for Elias, a point, but as Jesus was speaking to them he was lifted up, to be also a wittness that God has exalted high above all and has Glorified him and gave him all authority,and power, and the throne and make the Judge of all and the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, the one who has the Keys of Hades and Death,

Death has been Abolish, o' death where is that sting, 1st Timothy first chapter, half way down.

For the record I believe the answer is Christ.(the first fruit, the first begotten from the dead, the first born from the dead the first among many brethren ,He that was dead and is alive for ever more.) Amen!

And what did the Apostle Paul mean when he wrote these all died in faith not having received the promises? Hebrews 11

what does Romans 5:14 mean? nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that ha not sinned after the similitude of Adam transgression, who is a figure of him to come.

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Well God took Enoch somewhere. 'God took him...' So why wouldn't have been somewhere in Heaven, we don't even know how big heaven is, the different areas. We are really quite in the dark about it. So clearly, Enoch was the first to go to at least some area in heaven. I don't understand this paradise thing being separate, because it talks about heaven and earth passing away, a new heaven and earth, but never mentions anything about paradise. I know the Apostle Paul said he was caught up to paradise, the third heaven. The third heaven being where God is.

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Well God took Enoch somewhere. 'God took him...' So why wouldn't have been somewhere in Heaven, we don't even know how big heaven is, the different areas. We are really quite in the dark about it. So clearly, Enoch was the first to go to at least some area in heaven. I don't understand this paradise thing being separate, because it talks about heaven and earth passing away, a new heaven and earth, but never mentions anything about paradise. I know the Apostle Paul said he was caught up to paradise, the third heaven. The third heaven being where God is.

Before Jesus was crucified on the cross everyone who was a believer went to Paradise.Then after Jesus died on the cross He went to Paradise and took those believers to heaven with Him.They did not know heaven before then.Read Luke 16:19-31

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To the question: who is the first man to enter heavens ( before he died, while still alive, and with death in him,)

Was Enoch from what we know.

The first man to enter heavens after he died and with the life in him, the conqueror of Hades and Death, the one God raised from the dead.

What do you thing? How did he enter heaven,

God honor him and gave him the heavens for his

inheritance.

that's how he enter heaves because was his.not only for him but also for his children.

Jesus will never lock out his children and say, not now, later on, he will never leave his children homeless, he longes to be surrounded by them, his price and his GLORY, he brought children to the Father.

Before Jesus people died with dead, separated from God, what do you thing, they could not be with him while they were alive, how can some one suggest that went to be with him. And no heavenly inheritance for mankind,

Enoch was taken before he died, so Moses and Elias, and wit transportation not like Jesus without one.

The rein of death stoped when met Jesus,

I death where is thy sting, death is abolish 1st Timothy :ch:1ve:about 9.

Jesus set the captives of the devil free,

All generations after Jesus are free from the captivity of death from Adam, the Devil can only take his children, the children of the Antichrist .

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To the question: who is the first man to enter heavens ( before he died, while still alive, and with death in him,)

Was Enoch from what we know.

The first man to enter heavens after he died and with the life in him, the conqueror of Hades and Death, the one God raised from the dead.

What do you thing? How did he enter heaven,

God honor him and gave him the heavens for his

inheritance.

that's how he enter heaves because was his.not only for him but also for his children.

Jesus will never lock out his children and say, not now, later on, he will never leave his children homeless, he longes to be surrounded by them, his price and his GLORY, he brought children to the Father.

Before Jesus people died with dead, separated from God, what do you thing, they could not be with him while they were alive, how can some one suggest that went to be with him. And no heavenly inheritance for mankind,

Enoch was taken before he died, so Moses and Elias, and wit transportation not like Jesus without one.

The rein of death stoped when met Jesus,

I death where is thy sting, death is abolish 1st Timothy :ch:1ve:about 9.

Jesus set the captives of the devil free,

All generations after Jesus are free from the captivity of death from Adam, the Devil can only take his children, the children of the Antichrist .

Enoch was a believer so he went to Paradise which was a different location than those who are believers are in now.

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To the question: who is the first man to enter heavens ( before he died, while still alive, and with death in him,)

Was Enoch from what we know.

The first man to enter heavens after he died and with the life in him, the conqueror of Hades and Death, the one God raised from the dead.

What do you thing? How did he enter heaven,

God honor him and gave him the heavens for his

inheritance.

that's how he enter heaves because was his.not only for him but also for his children.

Jesus will never lock out his children and say, not now, later on, he will never leave his children homeless, he longes to be surrounded by them, his price and his GLORY, he brought children to the Father.

Before Jesus people died with dead, separated from God, what do you thing, they could not be with him while they were alive, how can some one suggest that went to be with him. And no heavenly inheritance for mankind,

Enoch was taken before he died, so Moses and Elias, and wit transportation not like Jesus without one.

The rein of death stoped when met Jesus,

I death where is thy sting, death is abolish 1st Timothy :ch:1ve:about 9.

Jesus set the captives of the devil free,

All generations after Jesus are free from the captivity of death from Adam, the Devil can only take his children, the children of the Antichrist .

Enoch was a believer so he went to Paradise which was a different location than those who are believers are in now.

Certenly someone may suggest that, but is that what happen, and how can we find out, how can we approach this issue, how can we make the examination, what are some of the informations we need to considered ? Please respond.

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To the question: who is the first man to enter heavens ( before he died, while still alive, and with death in him,)

Was Enoch from what we know.

The first man to enter heavens after he died and with the life in him, the conqueror of Hades and Death, the one God raised from the dead.

What do you thing? How did he enter heaven,

God honor him and gave him the heavens for his

inheritance.

that's how he enter heaves because was his.not only for him but also for his children.

Jesus will never lock out his children and say, not now, later on, he will never leave his children homeless, he longes to be surrounded by them, his price and his GLORY, he brought children to the Father.

Before Jesus people died with dead, separated from God, what do you thing, they could not be with him while they were alive, how can some one suggest that went to be with him. And no heavenly inheritance for mankind,

Enoch was taken before he died, so Moses and Elias, and wit transportation not like Jesus without one.

The rein of death stoped when met Jesus,

I death where is thy sting, death is abolish 1st Timothy :ch:1ve:about 9.

Jesus set the captives of the devil free,

All generations after Jesus are free from the captivity of death from Adam, the Devil can only take his children, the children of the Antichrist .

Enoch was a believer so he went to Paradise which was a different location than those who are believers are in now.

Certenly someone may suggest that, but is that what happen, and how can we find out, how can we approach this issue, how can we make the examination, what are some of the informations we need to considered ? Please respond.

 

This plainly states that Jesus went to paradise after He was resurrected and took those who were in Paradise to a different place which is heaven with Him.

 

Our Lord yielded His spirit to the Father, died, and at some time between death and resurrection, visited the realm of the dead where He delivered a message to spirit beings (probably fallen angels; seeJude 6) who were somehow related to the period before the flood in Noah's time. Verse 20 makes this clear. Peter did not tell us what He proclaimed to these imprisoned spirits, but it could not be a message of redemption since angels cannot be saved (Hebrews 2:16). It was probably a declaration of victory over Satan and his hosts (1 Peter 3:22;Colossians 2:15).Ephesians 4:8-10also seems to indicate that Christ went to “paradise” (Luke 16:20;23:43) and took to heaven all those who had believed in Him prior to His death. The passage doesn’t give a great amount of detail about what occurred, but most Bible scholars agree that this is what is meant by “led captivity captive.”

Read more:http://www.gotquestions.org/where-was-Jesus.html#ixzz3gSEV5m7c

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